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Russians probe al-Qa'eda link as a number of Arab fighters were among hostage tackers
telegraph.co.uk ^
| 27/10/2002
| Christina Lamb and Ben Aris
Posted on 10/27/2002 2:10:43 AM PST by Destro
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posted on
10/27/2002 2:10:43 AM PST
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Destro
To: Destro
that should read hostage takers
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posted on
10/27/2002 2:14:02 AM PST
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Destro
To: Destro
The only good Jehadi is a dead Jehadi
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Sat Oct 26, 1:23 PM ET |
The body of a man thought to be a Chechen gunman lies at the entrance of a theater after it was stormed by special forces in Moscow, Saturday, Oct. 26, 2002. Russian special forces stormed the building before sunrise Saturday to end the crisis. More than 90 hostages dead, but some 750 others freed and dozens of the assailants killed. (AP Photo/Gazeta) |
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Sat Oct 26,11:11 AM ET |
A TV grab shows dead female hostage-takers inside a Moscow theater after Russian special forces stormed the building, October 26, 2002. Russian forces killed most of the Chechen guerrillas who had started to execute captive theatergoers, but some of the 700 hostages also died, officials said. Photo by Pool/Reuters |
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posted on
10/27/2002 2:16:58 AM PST
by
dennisw
To: Destro
Great post. Thanks. More pictures, dammit. MORE! You can't get enough pictures of dead sh*tbags.
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posted on
10/27/2002 2:21:38 AM PST
by
Schmedlap
To: Schmedlap
I screwed up the spelling of the title but thanks.
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posted on
10/27/2002 2:50:22 AM PST
by
Destro
To: Destro
Now we're talking big fish with Saudi connections again. While Putin may have dealt with this situation, why is he hanging back on Saddam?
To: anniegetyourgun
why is he hanging back on Saddam?"Please forgive us," he said. "We shall win this fight against international terrorism."
One step at a time. After this event, it will be easier to get Mr. & Mrs. Boris six-pack on board.
IMO
To: Destro
but, but, I thought that this was done by the Chechnyan rebels, aka students, or freedom fighters?!
To: Freebird Forever
remember the UN in concert with the clinton administration? the condemnation of the russian treatment of the poor, gentle chechens reached a crescendo about the same time we were liberating the sweet kosovars. we've been liberating muslims throughout the world. and their gratitude brought us 9/11.
To: Destro
If this were here in the USA the liberals and the presstitutes would be crying out about how misunderstood these terrorists were, and would have totally ignored the Arab Muslims involvement.
To: twntaipan
If this were here in the USA... If this were here in the USA the media might have actually covered the story.
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posted on
10/27/2002 6:39:12 AM PST
by
Hugin
To: Hugin
But only if they could make the terrorists out to be RWGs with guns and NRA membership cards.
To: anniegetyourgun
While Putin may have dealt with this situation, why is he hanging back on Saddam?One needs to follow the money.
Russia has huge reserves of oil and natural gas, much of it just in the development stages and a lot of the developed sources in old, uneconomic fields. For Russian financial development and national prosperity, he needs the price of oil to remain at elevated levels to assure a healthy cash flow and the strong development. The demise of Saddam and the unleashing of the huge reserves of Iraqi oil into the marketplace would plummet oil prices, which in turn would further hurt the Russian economy - which is fragile even as it is.
IMHO, Putin is jockeying for some sort of American guarantees the bottom won't fall out of the price of oil next year in exchange for his support in overthrowing Saddam and allowing that extra Iraqi oil into the market. When he gets it, he will gladly come along. He is ideologically in our camp and in a murderous war with Al Queda as it is, but must look out for Russia's commercial interests at the same time.
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posted on
10/27/2002 7:18:34 AM PST
by
Gritty
To: twntaipan; joanie-f; snopercod; backhoe
The president of the company which manufactures the "sleeping gas" would be discovered by Tom Brokaw, to have helped the Bush Campaign.
To: anniegetyourgun
...follow the money...I forgot to mention Iraq owes Russia billions of dollars for weaponry which it possesses. Putin also will want assurances this debt will be guaranteed under a new Iraqi government.
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posted on
10/27/2002 7:33:17 AM PST
by
Gritty
I'm looking for the photo(s) of the dead terrorist holding the bottle of cognac. Links ok. Anybody? Thanks in advance.
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posted on
10/27/2002 7:37:48 AM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: Destro
that should read hostage takers That's okay, they were pretty tacky hostage takers! :)
NOW will the media start to refer to them as terrorists instead of "rebels"?
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posted on
10/27/2002 9:13:59 AM PST
by
wonders
To: Gritty
I see we're reading the same things as to his motives. I'm just wondering if most of that pressure isn't coming from his underlings who would have him knocked off or ousted if he doesn't tow the line. It is still, after all, Russia.....
To: contessa machiaveli; section9; blam; Dog Gone
It's also worth noting that Al Qaeda probably needs a replacement country for Afghanistan; some country that has no international engagements, is nearly lawless, and can be used for their purposes to train other terrorists without any interference.
Hmmm... I bet Chechnya would look like a pretty good fit for that.
It's also in the financial interests of the Middle-East oil producers to keep Russian oil-production tied up in wars and terrorism; less competition that way.
But sending actual Arabs into the Moscow theatre was a pretty bad strategic decision. The Russians are going to hype this Al Qaeda connection to Chechnya for all that it is worth, which will ally them firmly in Bush's anti-terrorism camp.
Shoot, Al Qaeda might just as well repeat this absurdity in Europe and China, thus uniting the ENTIRE militarized WORLD against their cause, as pull this stunt in Russia. From a geo-political and propaganda standpoint, using actual Arab terrorists inside Moscow-proper is a clear failure, and certainly something that will make the hapless French have a more difficult time "forgiving" the attack on their oil tanker in Yemen this year.
If historians have a sense of humour, they might look back one day on the radical-Islam vs civilized world war of 2001-2009 as the Darwin wars...
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posted on
10/27/2002 9:51:54 AM PST
by
Southack
To: anniegetyourgun
Why is Bush hanging back on the saudis?
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