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Part III - Will the Real Vietnam Vet Stand Up?
Newsmax.com ^
| Originally published at Newsmax June, 1999
| B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley
Posted on 10/26/2002 4:28:07 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; SAMWolf
Dunno about drugs but my father said drunkeness was rampant even in the medical corps( he mentioned to me that the army had something called the "garrison lifestyle").
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posted on
10/26/2002 4:37:37 PM PDT
by
weikel
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump.
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posted on
10/26/2002 4:42:24 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Quit posting this stuff. These facts are too likely to interfere with perfectly serviceable myths that make those who opposed the war feel better about themselves. :)
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posted on
10/26/2002 4:51:26 PM PDT
by
Restorer
To: weikel
My dad was at UofM right after WW2 and observed wards of vet patients afflicted with head wounds. My sense of it all is that the real devastation of war is unbelievable in the broken bodies after its over. And veterans hospitals are full of broken spirits from the conflict, in my opinion.
It's not a mystery why the conflict was lost and it was at the top. Lessons learned from Viet Nam helped in Desert Storm and made our military second to none. My sincere hope is that our guys fighting now get the support now and afterwards that they need to do their job well and protect me and my family.
God bless America. God bless us all.
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posted on
10/26/2002 5:02:54 PM PDT
by
Thebaddog
To: Restorer
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Nov 1967 to Jun 1969 - drinking and drugs were not a big problem.
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Vietnam
era vet bump.
5.56mm
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posted on
10/26/2002 5:18:55 PM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: weikel
We're always amazed to hear these things. My husband was with the Americal Division first tour and the First Infantry Division second tour. He served as a combat company commander 18 of those 24 months 1967 thru 1969 and never had a problem with his men being on drugs or alcohol. We lost 87 friends over there but have stayed in touch with almost everyone left from our group of friends. None of our friends were ever unemployed....or in drug rehab...or in AA. All came in to the Army as high school graduates or GED and left with a college degree. We just don't understand who the Vietnam vets were that created the profile for all Vietnam Vets.
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
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posted on
10/26/2002 5:36:27 PM PDT
by
mikeb704
To: weikel
"drunkeness was rampant even in the medical corps"
True, but drunkeness was always rampant among 20 somethings regardless of wether they were in the military or some frat house. For those Vietnam Vets that endured the spitting, demonizing, and other BS that the liberal hippie bastards put out, they have a much higher sucesss rate than the general population. Thanks to the GI bill many of us are doing just fine thank-you.
There are still some who try to portray the Vietnam Vet as the drug addicted pshcyo killer. It was particularly tough on those that came home to places like Californicate.
Despite rampant descrimination in jobs and other areas of life, Vietnam Vets are more sucessful than their peacenick counterparts.
There are a lot of us out there, and we are still not Fond of Jane, or Bill Clinton as far as that goes.
A thread here recently asked if Vietnam Vets were actually spit on. It was worse than that. I wore my dress blues to the unemployment office and was told nobody was going to hire me. It would be a good idea to grow long hair, take off the uniform, and collect unemployment. I might get attacked. Well, I was attacked, and one of those hippie bastards still has a toothless grin or wears dentures. I know becuase I still have the scar on my knuckle, where I punched his teeth out.
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10/26/2002 5:41:47 PM PDT
by
SSN558
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Fifty-six percent of Vietnam veterans said they benefited in the long run by going to Vietnam. Only 29 percent said they were set back As bad as it was, I wouldn't trade the lessions I learned there. That little trip made me what I am today. I learned good and evil and what evil men can do to each other, and what good men can do for each other. Men can love and die for other men without being.....well you know.
To: SSN558
I agree( its just my father said he drank more in the army then he did in college lol).
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posted on
10/26/2002 5:54:11 PM PDT
by
weikel
To: mikeb704; All
Don't waste your time clicking on HIS link - it's a pic of the shooters recently arrested.
EGads, why are you posting that crap here on this thread, mikeb704?
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:22:32 PM PDT
by
JLO
To: SSN558
. . . I was attacked, and one of those hippie bastards still has a toothless grin or wears dentures. I know becuase I still have the scar on my knuckle, where I punched his teeth out.Excellent shot - for all of us!! Thanks for your service! Amazing how the truth about how Viet Vets have done is so different from all the supposed "reality stories."
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:40:38 PM PDT
by
toddst
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thank You for posting the truth.
To: JLO
Don't waste your time clicking on HIS link - it's a pic of the shooters recently arrested. EGads, why are you posting that crap here on this thread, mikeb704?
The intent of the pic was to connect the shooter with the Million Man March. I usually include the web site with postings.
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10/26/2002 9:03:54 PM PDT
by
mikeb704
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Welcome Home, Babykiller...brings to mind my brush with anti-military bigotry in 1966 on my way back from an eighteen month assignment at the medical center on Okinawa, when, apparently unhinged by the sight of my uniform, the ticket agent at United Airlines at SF airport (where else?) handed me my boarding pass and said with a snear "Here's your ticket, babykiller"...naturally I never flew United again, and in fact was delighted to see today that their staff has agreed to a 3.5% pay cut to try to save the company from bankruptcy, which will doubtless occur nevertheless in the near future...I'm so looking forward to it.......
To: Intolerant in NJ
Thank you for your service! The "tolerant" left hasn't changed. There are some fine young men and women serving today who do get it....and appreciate you so much. They have the Vietnam Vets, and a mob of Americans like myself - a younger generation who learned that Hollywood and Walter Cronkite lied to us about the war and our Vets - to stand with them. The "peaceniks" are now in DC defending terrorists and real "babykillers"...exposed at last.
To: Thebaddog
Lessons learned from Viet Nam helped in Desert Storm and made our military second to none. My sincere hope is that our guys fighting now get the support now and afterwards that they need to do their job well and protect me and my family. God bless America. God bless us all.
Well said, baddog. What the left did during Vietnam motivates us to slap Jesse Jackson and Susan Sarandon upside the head and shake some truth into Noam Chomsky and Norman Lear today (figuratively speaking (^;).
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