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Russians in control of the theater! On CNN
cnn ^ | now | cnn

Posted on 10/25/2002 8:21:52 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat

Looks like a pretty good conclusion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Russia
KEYWORDS: terrorism
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To: Diddle E. Squat
WOW, Definately graphic
321 posted on 10/25/2002 10:20:13 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: HairOfTheDog
yeah the PC crowd has turned into pussies VA non-withstanding.

Look at all of the moosehead defenders. While we may have had the forces to do this, we do not have the cahones to .

VA what do you think about the use of gas? Good or dangerous?
322 posted on 10/25/2002 10:20:21 PM PDT by fooman
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Thanks for clearing that up. The numbers were so lopsided, I wondered if someone were being sarcastic.
323 posted on 10/25/2002 10:20:28 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Oops, CNN showing some inside clips now. Dead terrorists, but a lot of empty seats(that's good).
324 posted on 10/25/2002 10:20:55 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
My spectral image will vote for me.

Early, and often, I can only assume.

325 posted on 10/25/2002 10:21:17 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: MJY1288
Well that's one good thing about the head to toe burkas, covered up a good bit of the gore.
326 posted on 10/25/2002 10:22:12 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: wonders
Thank you again-tremendously informative and thanks for the link-will ck it out tomorrow. Also, part of what you wrote:

..... the Wahabbi imports (Al Quaida) have stirred the mix.

Isn't the Wahabbi Islamic practice or religion the main Islam practice in Saudi Arabia?

327 posted on 10/25/2002 10:22:43 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Diddle E. Squat


328 posted on 10/25/2002 10:23:39 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Nogbad
I'm 62 and I did think that day would come
though I wasn't certain it would be in my lifetime.

Well, we survived the atomic age and
had a Republican Congress for a few years.
I didn't expect to see either one!

329 posted on 10/25/2002 10:23:48 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Come to think of it, Gore might look good in a burqua
330 posted on 10/25/2002 10:24:32 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: El Gato; southland
southland: It is hard to determine who was right and who was wrong during cold war.

El Gato: No it's not.

southland, I must respectfully disagree with you and side with El Gato. I would read the works of Aleksander Solzhenitsyn , any of them. He was persecuted, sent into exile in Siberia, because he wrote the truth about what the communists were doing to its people. His writings were confiscated, when found. You will have few, if any, questions about who was right and wrong during the Cold War, or any other period of time while the U.S.S.R. lived and breathed. Here's an excerpt from that web site:

As early as 1937, as a first-year student, I chose to write a descriptive essay on "The Samsonov Disaster" of 1914 in East Prussia and studied material on this; and in 1945 I myself went to this area (at the time of writing, autumn 1970, the book August 1914 has just been completed).

I was arrested on the grounds of what the censorship had found during the years 1944-45 in my correspondence with a school friend, mainly because of certain disrespectful remarks about Stalin, although we referred to him in disguised terms. As a further basis for the "charge", there were used the drafts of stories and reflections which had been found in my map case. These, however, were not sufficient for a "prosecution", and in July 1945 I was "sentenced" in my absence, in accordance with a procedure then frequently applied, after a resolution by the OSO (the Special Committee of the NKVD), to eight years in a detention camp (at that time this was considered a mild sentence).

I served the first part of my sentence in several correctional work camps of mixed types (this kind of camp is described in the play, The Tenderfoot and the Tramp). In 1946, as a mathematician, I was transferred to the group of scientific research institutes of the MVD-MOB (Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of State Security). I spent the middle period of my sentence in such "SPECIAL PRISONS" (The First Circle). In 1950 I was sent to the newly established "Special Camps" which were intended only for political prisoners. In such a camp in the town of Ekibastuz in Kazakhstan (One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich), I worked as a miner, a bricklayer, and a foundryman. There I contracted a tumour which was operated on, but the condition was not cured (its character was not established until later on).

One month after I had served the full term of my eight-year sentence, there came, without any new judgement and even without a "resolution from the OSO", an administrative decision to the effect that I was not to be released but EXILED FOR LIFE to Kok-Terek (southern Kazakhstan). This measure was not directed specially against me, but was a very usual procedure at that time. I served this exile from March 1953 (on March 5th, when Stalin's death was made public, I was allowed for the first time to go out without an escort) until June 1956. . . . During all the years of exile, I taught mathematics and physics in a primary school and during my hard and lonely existence I wrote prose in secret (in the camp I could only write down poetry from memory). I managed, however, to keep what I had written, and to take it with me to the European part of the country, where, in the same way, I continued, as far as the outer world was concerned, to occupy myself with teaching and, in secret, to devote myself to writing, at first in the Vladimir district (Matryona's Farm) and afterwards in Ryazan.

During all the years until 1961, not only was I convinced that I should never see a single line of mine in print in my lifetime, but, also, I scarcely dared allow any of my close acquaintances to read anything I had written because I feared that this would become known. Finally, at the age of 42, this secret authorship began to wear me down. . . . In 1961, after the 22nd Congress of the U.S.S.R. Communist Party and Tvardovsky's speech at this, I decided to emerge and to offer One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich.

Such an emergence seemed, then, to me, and not without reason, to be very risky because it might lead to the loss of my manuscripts, and to my own destruction. But, on that occasion, things turned out successfully, and after protracted efforts, A.T. Tvardovsky was able to print my novel one year later. The printing of my work was, however, stopped almost immediately and the authorities stopped both my plays and (in 1964) the novel, The First Circle, which, in 1965, was seized together with my papers from the past years. During these months it seemed to me that I had committed an unpardonable mistake by revealing my work prematurely and that because of this I should not be able to carry it to a conclusion.

331 posted on 10/25/2002 10:25:17 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Diddle E. Squat
A lot of empty seats, Looks like it was a complete success, They could of played games with them for days and lost all of the hostages. Maybe this will serve as a lesson for the appeasement crowd
332 posted on 10/25/2002 10:25:30 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: GOPyouth
I just realized that should have been sent to Saturn. heh heh. But we all get the jist of the post. :)

No problem, mate. Glad to have ye aboard! Now go swab the deck! :O)

333 posted on 10/25/2002 10:26:46 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: hole_n_one
Looks like mostly dead perps to me!
334 posted on 10/25/2002 10:26:59 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: ET(end tyranny)
MY @ss. Just trying to illustrate a point. We do not know the casulty rate yet of the hostages, but it looks good...
335 posted on 10/25/2002 10:28:10 PM PDT by fooman
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To: HairOfTheDog
"I am not sure we have the kind of guts that Spetznaz had tonight. We have become a country that allows standoffs."

I dont quite understand this statement.

A standoff is exactly what the Russian allowed. And only after the hostages tried to escape and the terrorists opened fire that the SpecFor went in [in defense of the escaping hostages].

Maybe I am missing some facts from this situation.

????

336 posted on 10/25/2002 10:28:12 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: MJY1288
Whatever works....and thankfully, this appeared to work with fewer casualties than I was thinking it was headed for. Thank God it is over. Now....when will the Russians get the picture on Saddam?
337 posted on 10/25/2002 10:28:54 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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8 children from the play are in good condition. Mood among waiting families is cautious elation.
338 posted on 10/25/2002 10:29:15 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: MJY1288
Looks like mostly dead perps to me!

Or asleep. No blood. Pics may have been taken before...

339 posted on 10/25/2002 10:29:28 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Dengar01
" Fox News definetly sucked on this story"

For all the hoopla about 24 hour cable news coverage-most of these cable stations turn out the lights at 10pm Eastern and most of the week end. They operate under the philosophy that if it doesn't happen between 7am and 10pm,M-F, it's not newsworthy.
340 posted on 10/25/2002 10:30:04 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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