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Suspect left danger signs in Bellingham (FBI had Terror Tip on Sniper Muhammad, October, 2001!)
Bellingham Herald ^ | October 25th, 2002 | John Stark, Aubrey Cohen, & Mary Lane Gallagher

Posted on 10/25/2002 7:35:47 AM PDT by Sabertooth

Edited on 05/07/2004 9:31:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The people at Stuart's Coffee House remember John Allen Muhammad as a quiet chess player who never wanted to be apart from his big, stuffed, heavy U.S. Army duffel bag.

At this point, nobody can prove that the bag Muhammad was lugging around contained the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle that police found in his car when he and 17-year-old John Lee Malvo were arrested at a Maryland rest stop early Thursday. By the end of the day, ballistics tests had tied that weapon to the bloody East Coast sniping spree that left 10 people dead.


(Excerpt) Read more at news.bellinghamherald.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: dcsniper; jihadinamerica; johnallenmuhammad; johnleemalvo; malvo; sniper
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To: Miss Marple
"I would like to know more about this business which had an unseen boss (although registered in his wife's name) and never wanted any customers from the neighborhood."

I wish you success. I'll bet some of us would recognize the bosse's name, huh? (...and likely to be connected to a local mosque)

141 posted on 10/25/2002 10:29:35 AM PDT by blam
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To: Eva
re: your post 28

Same thing happened with my friend, Different cities and he is a Muslim from Morocco but other than that pretty similar circumstances. Odd thing is, since 9-11 we haven't spoke, I have left messages and never received a call back.

I had some suspicions even before 9-11, before I knew about sleeper cells etc. But after 9-11, I was really suspicious this guy was not on the up and up.

142 posted on 10/25/2002 10:37:08 AM PDT by riri
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To: HiJinx; Eva
I've heard mixed reports about his discharge. Last night on Primtime Live, ABC, Juan Quinones (SP) said emphatically that he received an honorable discharge from the army. Later I saw an interview with the commander of his unit in the Louisiana National Guard. He said Mohammed was disciplined on two occasions. The first time for failure to follow a direct order, he was fined $100.00. The second time was a few months later after he struck a non-commissioned officer on the head. For that one he was fined $100.00, spent 7 days in jail and his rank was reduced from an E5 to an E4. The commander said Mohammeed didn't like authority, didn't like being told what to do and was a troublemaker.
143 posted on 10/25/2002 10:38:35 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: All
Hannah Parks speaks of her experience with John Allen Muhammad during his stay in Bellingham. Parks said Muhammad flashed lots of money and claimed to be a record producer who could help her music career.

This sort of thing happens all the time. ALL the time. (Oh my, Paul Wellstone is dead?)

144 posted on 10/25/2002 10:40:28 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Eva
I've frequently driven between the DC area and Northern NJ and always tried to take a route that avoided the possibility of going through Camden. Not a spot to have a breakdown or flat tire.

Fall Church is a quiet, wealthy liberal Washington suburb. (A few years ago, the Fall Church Police Department drove Volvos!) If not 180 degrees from Camden, then 179.9 degrees.

You're right -- there's more to Mohammed and Malvo than we know and I wouldn't be surprised if further connections are covered up.

Jack
145 posted on 10/25/2002 10:41:15 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: iranger
I thought you qualified for military pension after 10 yrs provided you get an honorable discharge.

I only did 4 years active duty, some 30 years ago, but I had the definite impression you needed 20 then.

I was, however, in the reserves for a long time after that, until 1994, and can state as a fact that, to get the reserve pension at age 60, you need to have done 20 years total, active and reserve, unless there is a specific program for early retirements at the time you retire.

146 posted on 10/25/2002 12:55:00 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: iranger
I thought you qualified for military pension after 10 yrs provided you get an honorable discharge.

I only did 4 years active duty, some 30 years ago, but I had the definite impression you needed 20 then.

I was, however, in the reserves for a long time after that, until 1994, and can state as a fact that, to get the reserve pension at age 60, you need to have done 20 years total, active and reserve, unless there is a specific program for early retirements at the time you retire.

147 posted on 10/25/2002 1:04:29 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Eva
Her name is something like "Michelle Malkin".
148 posted on 10/25/2002 1:35:09 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: aristeides; Fred Mertz; honway; OKCSubmariner
This "BLACK MUSLIM" is a "LILLY WHITE" !
149 posted on 10/25/2002 1:48:42 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: DoughtyOne
The FBI needs you on this thread to defend their incompetence. Help attack detractors from the government party line. Remember use no facts, just ad hominem attacks! No one can be allowed to question the authorities.
150 posted on 10/25/2002 1:51:44 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Sabertooth
Interesting info. Thanks for the ping.

So from what I can glean from this, coupled with his past history (including guarding for Farrakhan) it would seem that Muhammed, at any rate, had some tendencies in this direction anyway. The description of his connection to Malvo seems to be based on some sort of domination -- though it's also clear that Malvo was willing to play along. Sounds like it was probably mostly Muhammed's idea.

All in all, this does seem to sound like a nutjob case -- though the motives seem to spring from Muhammed's involvement with Nation of Islam, and it bears looking into whether Farrakhan's folks have a more active involvement in the case.

151 posted on 10/25/2002 2:07:16 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Mitchell
Has he held any jobs since being discharged from the Army?

I don't know if it was a paying job, but a former Tacoma neighbor said that Muhammed claimed to have been a bodyguard for Farrakhan at the Million Man March. (I haven't personally seen any confirmation of this claim, though.)

One rather doubts that a free-lance bodyguard would be allowed to get so close to Louie. So if (big if) the story is true, it hints at a possible source for money, and perhaps a profitable line of investigation for the Homeland Security boys.

152 posted on 10/25/2002 2:13:40 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Eva
I've frequently driven between the DC area and Northern NJ and always tried to take a route that avoided the possibility of going through Camden. Not a spot to have a breakdown or flat tire.

Fall Church is a quiet, wealthy liberal Washington suburb. (A few years ago, the Fall Church Police Department drove Volvos!) If not 180 degrees from Camden, then 179.9 degrees.

You're right -- there's more to Mohammed and Malvo than we know and I wouldn't be surprised if further connections are covered up.

Jack
153 posted on 10/25/2002 2:13:59 PM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: Miss Marple
Handing out Islamic leaflets

Where did he get the Islamic leaflets?

154 posted on 10/25/2002 2:16:17 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: r9etb
I heard one of the news nets report yesterday that Muhammad had attended a mosque in Seattle. Anyone heard anything about that?
155 posted on 10/25/2002 2:20:27 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: r9etb
There's more...
Neighbors said that back around 1992, roughly the same time Muhammad lived in the Pinole house, FBI agents questioned them about the man.

"A long time ago, (the FBI) came over here and asked people about the people across the street," said a 21-year-old neighbor who refused to give his name. The neighbor said he and his parents lived on the street at the time. He added that the family believed the FBI questioning was related to Muhammad's military service.
Oakland Tribune LINK
FR INK




156 posted on 10/25/2002 2:24:14 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Catspaw
I'd like to know where he got the money as well. This guy should've raised sirens all over the place.

No, we are still asleep.

157 posted on 10/25/2002 2:32:38 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: aristeides
Anybody got any ideas on why he would have been living in a homeless shelter

Tacoma = police would respond to neighbors complaints of gunshots. Shelter = priest got noisy. Mohommad goes full blown terrorist = lives in car to avoid detection. It appears to me that Mohammad was trying as best he could to adhere to some of the rules of the Al Queda terrorist, keeping to himself, deceiving others. But since he is an American, and has American relatives, he is forced to live 2 different life styles. His relatives say he was warm and caring. The people at Stuart's say Mohammad and Malvo keep to themselves, never smiling (Atta trait). Mohammad is just another Richard Reed, with a specialty, a craft (snipper shooting).

158 posted on 10/25/2002 3:02:54 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: browardchad; Eva
The 2002 entry in the U.S. Business Directory lists the president of the WAMY [World Assembly of Muslim Youth] office in Annandale, Va., as Abdula bin Laden--the terrorist's younger brother.

Didn't the latest message from bin Laden mention something about the "youths of God"?

It just seems a bit too coincidental that we have a Muslim man and a Caribbean youth arrested in connection with the shootings, a message including a reference to the "youths of God" from bin Laden, an organization called "World Assembly of Muslim Youth", which is located in the heart of the "sniper"-zone and run by Abdula bin Laden and is also associated with Jamal Barzinji and others, who are connected to the Caribbean branch of Al-Taqwa ("Fear of God") and AMFT, which is located in Bellingham, Washington.

159 posted on 10/25/2002 3:53:34 PM PDT by schmelvin
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To: Honorary Serb; Sabertooth; Eva; ladyinred; Clovis_Skeptic; fooman; WhiteOwl; Grampa Dave; ...
Where did this "homeless loner" get all that cash?

 -- could be the Bank of Al Taqwa, with a branch office located in the Caribbean.

ustreas press release
http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/po3014.htm

FROM THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS April 19, 2002
PO-3014

Designation of 10 Terrorist Financiers Fact Sheet

. . . .
2. NASREDDIN, Ahmed Idris

Ahmed Idris Nasreddin provides direct support for Youssef Nada and Bank Al Taqwa, both of which were designated as terrorist financiers by the Department of Treasury on November 7, 2001. On the same date, Treasury named four additional individuals as terrorist financers connected to al Taqwa: Zeinab Mansour-Fattouh, Mohamed Mansour, Albert Friedrich Armand Huber, and Ali Ghaleb Himmat. The al Taqwa group has long acted as financial advisers to al Qaida, with offices in Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Italy and the Caribbean. Ahmed Idris Nasreddin and Youssef Nada are both founders and directors of Bank Al Taqwa. Usama bin Laden and his al-Qaida organization received financial assistance from Youssef Nada. Al Taqwa provides investment advice and cash transfer mechanisms for al Qaida and other radical Islamic groups.

160 posted on 10/25/2002 4:18:33 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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