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Muslim arrested in Beltway case (John Muhammad)
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 24, 2002 | Art Moore

Posted on 10/24/2002 5:21:19 AM PDT by Michael2001

TACOMA, Wash. – Two men wanted for questioning in the D.C.-area sniper case were arrested early this morning at a rest stop near I-70 in the vicinity of Myersville, Md., about 45 miles northwest of the nation's capital, according to news reports.

John Allen Muhammad, 41, and stepson Lee Malvo, 17, were transported to Montgomery County, where the sniper task force is headquartered.

A rifle was found in Muhammad's car, reported WUSA-TV in Washington, D.C.

Neighbors who several years ago lived near Muhammad in Tacoma, Wash., described him last night as the head of a devout Muslim family who was prone to domestic violence, according to Seattle's KOMO-TV.

Federal sources said Muhammad and Malvo were known to speak sympathetically about the men who attacked the United States on Sept. 11, but the officials believe neither man to be associated with the al-Qaida terrorist network, the Seattle Times reported.

In connection with the sniper case, however, the FBI reportedly is searching "Camp Ground Zero USA" in Marion, Ala., a militant Islamic training camp with possible links to al-Qaida. Last night Fox News reported that FBI sources said "they are not at liberty to comment" and cannot confirm or deny their agents are investigating the camp.

WorldNetDaily reported two days after the D.C.-area shootings began Oct. 2 that FBI profilers believed the case fit no regular category and could find no motive other than terrorism. The shootings, which have caused an economic slowdown in the area, started four days after al-Qaida warned the U.S. that it would strike economic targets, WND reported last Thursday. A former CIA operative told WND in a story published Saturday, that the nature of the killings and Pentagon involvement in the probe support the terrorism theory.

In March 1999, Muhammad abducted his children and took them to the Caribbean after separating from his wife earlier that year, KOMO said. The children, a 12-year-old son and two younger daughters, now reportedly are in protective custody in Maryland.

As the focus of the Maryland-based sniper probe moved to the Pacific Northwest yesterday, task force head Charles Moose announced that Muhammad, also known as John Allen Williams, was being sought for information related to the case.

Moose told reporters last night that it should not be assumed that Muhammad "is involved in any of the shootings we are investigating," but is wanted for federal firearms violations and may have information material to the sniper probe.

Muhammad, described as about 6 feet 1 and 180 pounds, was believed to be traveling with a juvenile and considered "armed and dangerous," Moose said.

The Montgomery County, Md., police chief also gave a message to the sniper.

Moose said "our inability to talk has been a concern for us as well as for you," noting several attempts to establish a connection.

"You have indicated that you wanted us to do and say certain things," Moose said in his message to the sniper. "You asked us to say, 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say this is important to you."

The solution, Moose said, "remains to call us and get a private toll free number established," or write to a post office box address.

The police chief's references apparently were related to a note found at the site of Saturday's shooting near Richmond, Va., and another at Tuesday's Montgomery County attack both of which included a demand for $10 million.

Seattle's KOMO radio reports that Muhammad is a veteran of the Persian Gulf War.

A former soldier who says he recognized Muhammad in a photo on TV news last night said he served with Muhammad in the Army.

Randy Lyons, of Bothell, Wash., told KING-TV that he knew Muhammad as an "outstanding soldier" who had a "very pretty wife and kids."

Authorities said they also were searching for Muhammad's stepson, John Lee Malvo, a citizen of Jamaica, according to CNN and Fox News.

Fox said the two men are linked to a blue or burgundy 1990 Chevy Caprice with New Jersey license NDA-21Z, which matched the car in which they were found asleep.

Fox News also reported that warrants related to the D.C. case issued yesterday in Montgomery, Ala.

A telephone call from the sniper alerted investigators to look into a Sept. 21 fatal shooting at a liquor store in Montgomery, according to the Seattle Times.

An official said a piece of paper found at the Alabama shooting scene was traced to Malvo, who then was linked to a Tacoma house where he had been living with Muhammad.

Muhammad was based at nearby Fort Lewis, Wash., in 1994-95 and lived in a Tacoma neighborhood where a backyard search for ballistic material was conducted yesterday, according to Peggy Bellows, an editor for the Tacoma News Tribune.

FBI agents also conducted a search yesterday in Bellingham, Wash., related to two persons of interest in the D.C. sniper case, at least one of whom is "not a U.S. national," according to the mayor of the city in northwestern Washington state.

Agents in Tacoma recovered two shell casings along with a tree stump with bullet holes in the backyard of a fourplex, said KOMO-TV in Seattle.

The material was to be transported by air to Washington, D.C., according to news reports.

Bellingham mayor Mark Asmundson told Seattle's KING-TV that his police department began cooperating yesterday morning with FBI agents interested in two men who were residents of the city, near the Canadian border, in the past year and a half.

One was a student at Bellingham High School and the other was an older man, according to Asmundson.

A KOMO-TV report later confirmed that the student was Malvo.

The two were most recently in Bellingham nine months ago, Asmundson said.

"Being near the border, we've had our share of unusual characters in Bellingham," Asmundson said.

In Tacoma, sources confirmed that the search there was related to the D.C. sniper case, according to KIRO-TV.

Fort Lewis spokesman Lt. Col. Joseph Piek said the FBI had asked for help from the base, KOMO-TV reported.

The backyard search was conducted by consent of the property owner, said FBI spokesperson Melissa Mallon on the scene late yesterday afternoon. Local television news reports said the owner is not a person of interest.

"There is no immediate danger for anybody in this neighborhood," Mallon said. "If there were, we would let people know."

Tacoma mayor Bill Baarsma said in an interview with KING-TV in Seattle that he was called out of a meeting at about 12:30 p.m. yesterday to be met by the FBI.

"It was a day of irony for me, because I was called out of a meeting about how to cope with a terrorist attack," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; alqaeda; blackmuslims; blackpanthers; jamaatalfuqra; newblackpanthers
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To: Jeff Head
FYI ... Let's hope they got these animals and that there are not more waiting to go into action.

Dittos. Thanks for the ping. I hope these are the real killers, and if there are more accomplices that they are speedily caught. A reversal at this point would be devastating.

62 posted on 10/24/2002 6:33:52 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: Illbay
You are right. I would only be suspicious and concerned if they were radical in their thought like Farakhan and if they approved of 911 and expressed sympathy for those who did it.

Come to think of it, I would be concerned about anyone who did those things, of whatever religion.

In this case, apparently all of those things line up and I am afraid that there may be many more amongst us where they also line up. We need to be on our guard for those things.

Fregards.

63 posted on 10/24/2002 6:33:53 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: mj1234
I have been raising that as a possibility for several days. It could almost certainly be why they are still holding him ... without bail.
64 posted on 10/24/2002 6:35:54 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Michael2001
The networks are handling the Muslim issue with kid gloves.

Is there a gay issue also ?

65 posted on 10/24/2002 6:36:43 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The oh so PC media is rapidly turning this story into a "the military must be evil--it cranks out serial killers" hatchet job

My prediction: Fallout from Bush Sr's Gulf War to obtain oil for his oil buddies.

67 posted on 10/24/2002 6:38:21 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Michael2001; All
WorldNetDaily are the only ones willing to report this for what it is. The networks are handling the Muslim issue with kid gloves.

The liberal angst gushes from a well far deeper than religion--particularly the Muslim religion. The sole reason liberals grant logic-blinding deference to Islam is that it is not conservative Christianity, which they despise even more.

The deeper and truer sources of liberal discomfort are John Muhammad's race and the proximity of his arrest to the election. The following posts from some of the usual suspects at Democratic Undergrand bear this out:

"[I agree] [t]his is NOT good news. If this guy turns out to be an african american who converted to islam and joined the terrorists, we are screwed (not that I wish he wasn't found or anything). If he's a registered Dem, we might as well wait till 2004 . . . . If he's ex-military. . . . can we blame the right wing gun nuts, even if he's an angry looking african american named mohammed?"

Note the desperate attempt to find an angle--any angle--to manufacture a right wing scapegoat out of this sow's ear.

68 posted on 10/24/2002 6:38:21 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: dd5339
ABC is reporting that the feds were already looking for these two on federal weapons charges. Anyone heard what the deal was with that? Semper Fi

My guess is the weapon was stolen from the military,that is why the ballistics were so easy to match.You connect the theft of the weapon with who had access,and who might have motive. Add in the descriptions,(which they kept real quiet, except the bogus ones, they let the disinformation fly) and bingo this guy is on the radar screen.

69 posted on 10/24/2002 6:38:35 AM PDT by porte des morts
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To: Michael2001
I think these two guys are patsies. I don't doubt their guilt but why would the "sniper" require Mr. Moose to say specifically:

"We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose"

And this on the very day that the "snipers" were caught, well, like a duck in a noose, ie very easily.

70 posted on 10/24/2002 6:39:11 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Pietro
I think these two guys are patsies. I don't doubt their guilt but why would the "sniper" require Mr. Moose to say specifically: "We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose"

As a coded message to other Muslim "sleeper" terrorists, perhaps?

Moose isn't exactly the brightest bulb on the family Christmas tree after all.

71 posted on 10/24/2002 6:44:04 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Jeff Head
I have absolutely no problem with suspicion of "guests" from Middle Eastern countries, particularly those who can be connected even slightly with radical elements.

I have no problem detaining prisoners of war in Gitmo. I have no problem detaining those who can be shown by classified evidence presented in camera to a judge to be fomenting violent rebellion against the United States and her people.

But I am pretty much sick to death of the outrageous statements like that guy made. They ought to be off-limits on FR, in fact. They do us a grave disservice.

72 posted on 10/24/2002 6:44:37 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: mj1234
I believe that his name was Dowdy.

There were several of evil conservatives who wanted to know since he was a convicted felon if he was a Black Muslim. I was one of those evil conservatives who asked this Politically Incorrect statement.

Of course at that time the Politically Correct Crowd was still trying to blame this on the evil white conservatives. If he was a Black Muslim converted during a prison term, they would never put that data out.

Just remember these groups and that there is not much difference in their agendas to destroy America and to kill Americans: AL FUQRA; BLACK MUSLIMS; BLACK PANTHERS; NEW BLACK PANTHERS. These are the home grown and home recruited farm teams of Islamofascist/Islamakazi terrorism. If they are really good, they might get to go to the professional team, Al Qaeda.

Political Correctness is a deadly CNS virus which infects liberals and some who claim to be conservatives. Political Correctness in our top levels of law enforcement can kill innocent people.
73 posted on 10/24/2002 6:44:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Illbay
There is a name for those who condemn an entire religious people based on stereotypes and knee-jerk hatred. Can you guess what it is?

Democrat ?

74 posted on 10/24/2002 6:49:03 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Lx; anniegetyourgun
Actually, I have been hoping it was not a Black Muslim. John Mohammed's affiliation with the Nation of Islam is the very worst news we could have had about the sniper.

If it had been a white guy, we would have had a political battle on our hands. Well, we've been there before and can fight that battle.

But a Black Muslim is very, very, bad news. This may mean that a radical organization has further radicalized. They are a rich and highly disciplined organization. They have (minimum) hundreds of thousands of active members. Membership is recruited largely out of prisons, with monetary support for the recruitment structure being provided by Our Friends, the Saudis(TM).

Think for a moment what that may mean for the future of our great country. If you are looking for the trojan horse of Islam. There it is.

I would much rather the sniper had been arab Al-Quaeda, a crazy white guy, or a crazy black guy. Anything but Nation of Islam.

75 posted on 10/24/2002 6:49:10 AM PDT by ffrancone
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To: Kevin Curry
You nailed that.
76 posted on 10/24/2002 6:49:54 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: mj1234
Hey--anyone remember the man that gave the false description of the shooter?

He said he was black. Interersting. Wasn't he charged for making false statements ?

77 posted on 10/24/2002 6:51:00 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Jeff Head
I hate to be a pessimist, but if they ain't said nothin' so far about the Islam issue, they ain't gonna IMHO. This country is sick with PCism to the point of no chance of recovery. Sad, but true.

In a perfect world, they should exploit the fact that they are rags to the fullest degree. But we all know why they don't right?

JMHO...

SR

79 posted on 10/24/2002 6:52:41 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: ffrancone
ARM THE PEOPLE
80 posted on 10/24/2002 6:53:25 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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