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Muslim arrested in Beltway case (John Muhammad)
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 24, 2002 | Art Moore

Posted on 10/24/2002 5:21:19 AM PDT by Michael2001

TACOMA, Wash. – Two men wanted for questioning in the D.C.-area sniper case were arrested early this morning at a rest stop near I-70 in the vicinity of Myersville, Md., about 45 miles northwest of the nation's capital, according to news reports.

John Allen Muhammad, 41, and stepson Lee Malvo, 17, were transported to Montgomery County, where the sniper task force is headquartered.

A rifle was found in Muhammad's car, reported WUSA-TV in Washington, D.C.

Neighbors who several years ago lived near Muhammad in Tacoma, Wash., described him last night as the head of a devout Muslim family who was prone to domestic violence, according to Seattle's KOMO-TV.

Federal sources said Muhammad and Malvo were known to speak sympathetically about the men who attacked the United States on Sept. 11, but the officials believe neither man to be associated with the al-Qaida terrorist network, the Seattle Times reported.

In connection with the sniper case, however, the FBI reportedly is searching "Camp Ground Zero USA" in Marion, Ala., a militant Islamic training camp with possible links to al-Qaida. Last night Fox News reported that FBI sources said "they are not at liberty to comment" and cannot confirm or deny their agents are investigating the camp.

WorldNetDaily reported two days after the D.C.-area shootings began Oct. 2 that FBI profilers believed the case fit no regular category and could find no motive other than terrorism. The shootings, which have caused an economic slowdown in the area, started four days after al-Qaida warned the U.S. that it would strike economic targets, WND reported last Thursday. A former CIA operative told WND in a story published Saturday, that the nature of the killings and Pentagon involvement in the probe support the terrorism theory.

In March 1999, Muhammad abducted his children and took them to the Caribbean after separating from his wife earlier that year, KOMO said. The children, a 12-year-old son and two younger daughters, now reportedly are in protective custody in Maryland.

As the focus of the Maryland-based sniper probe moved to the Pacific Northwest yesterday, task force head Charles Moose announced that Muhammad, also known as John Allen Williams, was being sought for information related to the case.

Moose told reporters last night that it should not be assumed that Muhammad "is involved in any of the shootings we are investigating," but is wanted for federal firearms violations and may have information material to the sniper probe.

Muhammad, described as about 6 feet 1 and 180 pounds, was believed to be traveling with a juvenile and considered "armed and dangerous," Moose said.

The Montgomery County, Md., police chief also gave a message to the sniper.

Moose said "our inability to talk has been a concern for us as well as for you," noting several attempts to establish a connection.

"You have indicated that you wanted us to do and say certain things," Moose said in his message to the sniper. "You asked us to say, 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say this is important to you."

The solution, Moose said, "remains to call us and get a private toll free number established," or write to a post office box address.

The police chief's references apparently were related to a note found at the site of Saturday's shooting near Richmond, Va., and another at Tuesday's Montgomery County attack both of which included a demand for $10 million.

Seattle's KOMO radio reports that Muhammad is a veteran of the Persian Gulf War.

A former soldier who says he recognized Muhammad in a photo on TV news last night said he served with Muhammad in the Army.

Randy Lyons, of Bothell, Wash., told KING-TV that he knew Muhammad as an "outstanding soldier" who had a "very pretty wife and kids."

Authorities said they also were searching for Muhammad's stepson, John Lee Malvo, a citizen of Jamaica, according to CNN and Fox News.

Fox said the two men are linked to a blue or burgundy 1990 Chevy Caprice with New Jersey license NDA-21Z, which matched the car in which they were found asleep.

Fox News also reported that warrants related to the D.C. case issued yesterday in Montgomery, Ala.

A telephone call from the sniper alerted investigators to look into a Sept. 21 fatal shooting at a liquor store in Montgomery, according to the Seattle Times.

An official said a piece of paper found at the Alabama shooting scene was traced to Malvo, who then was linked to a Tacoma house where he had been living with Muhammad.

Muhammad was based at nearby Fort Lewis, Wash., in 1994-95 and lived in a Tacoma neighborhood where a backyard search for ballistic material was conducted yesterday, according to Peggy Bellows, an editor for the Tacoma News Tribune.

FBI agents also conducted a search yesterday in Bellingham, Wash., related to two persons of interest in the D.C. sniper case, at least one of whom is "not a U.S. national," according to the mayor of the city in northwestern Washington state.

Agents in Tacoma recovered two shell casings along with a tree stump with bullet holes in the backyard of a fourplex, said KOMO-TV in Seattle.

The material was to be transported by air to Washington, D.C., according to news reports.

Bellingham mayor Mark Asmundson told Seattle's KING-TV that his police department began cooperating yesterday morning with FBI agents interested in two men who were residents of the city, near the Canadian border, in the past year and a half.

One was a student at Bellingham High School and the other was an older man, according to Asmundson.

A KOMO-TV report later confirmed that the student was Malvo.

The two were most recently in Bellingham nine months ago, Asmundson said.

"Being near the border, we've had our share of unusual characters in Bellingham," Asmundson said.

In Tacoma, sources confirmed that the search there was related to the D.C. sniper case, according to KIRO-TV.

Fort Lewis spokesman Lt. Col. Joseph Piek said the FBI had asked for help from the base, KOMO-TV reported.

The backyard search was conducted by consent of the property owner, said FBI spokesperson Melissa Mallon on the scene late yesterday afternoon. Local television news reports said the owner is not a person of interest.

"There is no immediate danger for anybody in this neighborhood," Mallon said. "If there were, we would let people know."

Tacoma mayor Bill Baarsma said in an interview with KING-TV in Seattle that he was called out of a meeting at about 12:30 p.m. yesterday to be met by the FBI.

"It was a day of irony for me, because I was called out of a meeting about how to cope with a terrorist attack," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; alqaeda; blackmuslims; blackpanthers; jamaatalfuqra; newblackpanthers
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To: Illbay
Thank you!

If these two are the murderers, they are murderers because they're sick and twisted, not because they are of a certain race or religion.
241 posted on 10/24/2002 10:56:29 AM PDT by hawkeyeBetsy
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To: Crowcreek
>"There is a name for those who condemn an entire religious
> people based on stereotypes and knee-jerk hatred. Can you
> guess what it is?"
>
>Uh, . . . . . Muslims?

Nice bigoted comment. Lemme guess, are you a bible-thumping Christian 'cause you also fit in that category you're tyring to place "Muslims" in.


242 posted on 10/24/2002 11:03:46 AM PDT by hawkeyeBetsy
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To: Michael2001
If he was so anti-American, why did he pick people like an Afro-American bus driver? That victim could have been a Muslim convert like himself. It seems that he would have wanted to make more of a "statement" with his victims than average people just minding their own business. If he was such a good shot (and obviously thought himself clever) why didn't he go after a Donald Trump, Ken Ley, or a Martha Stewart, or do a "Taxi Driver" spree against some lesser but accessible political candidate?
243 posted on 10/24/2002 11:07:25 AM PDT by MHT
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To: Jonathan; Illbay
It's truly sad that you're so incredibly blind to anything but your own faith.

Look through the history of Christianity and you can see just as much death and violence through the ages.

You can take violent verses out of the Bible just as you can out of the Kuran.

I find radical Islam just as frightening as the next person. But don't condemn the entire faith because some people choose to interpret it in a very sick and violent manor.
244 posted on 10/24/2002 11:07:53 AM PDT by hawkeyeBetsy
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To: Michael2001; Illbay
"Since he's committed to his religion have you ever asked him to explain some of the more "unpleasant" verses in the Koran?"

Explain similar ones in the Bible. We have just as many, if not more.

While radical Christians in the U.S. aren't posing a direct terrorist threat (yet), read into the history of the faith and you'll find that it hasn't always been peaceful.

As religions go, Islam is the young kid on the block.

The seeming ground swell of radical Islam concerns me a lot but if they were all like that, at 1 billion strong in number, we'd all be slain.
245 posted on 10/24/2002 11:11:40 AM PDT by hawkeyeBetsy
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To: Michael2001
I just have to say it. I am so glad this turned out to be a muslim non white nut case. I really hope they got these perps. Its them it as to be. Two men (two man team) sleeping in a car with a rifle in the area.Its gotta be them.
246 posted on 10/24/2002 11:15:54 AM PDT by ezo4
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To: EggsAckley
Thank you {:0)
247 posted on 10/24/2002 11:17:37 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: Technogeeb
Good analysis.
248 posted on 10/24/2002 11:29:44 AM PDT by Inkie
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To: moron
BIG difference! The tale you've referenced from the Bible is a description of a battle with an enemy.

The quotes from the Koran are puported to be the words of Allah, giving instruction on how to treat (ie, Slay) disbelievers.

NO-WHERE does the Bible say "Kill a muslim", or "Kill a Hindu"
249 posted on 10/24/2002 11:36:02 AM PDT by Big Otto
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To: sneakypete
I remember the Panthers in the sixties. They were scary dudes. I remember them standing on streetcorners, stepping right in front of you, and barking "so why do YOU hate black people?" I would usually say, "well, I didn't until NOW."

By the way, can you translate this----> (IIRC!) I keep seeing it but haven't a clue what it says. Thanks.

250 posted on 10/24/2002 11:42:26 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: hawkeyeBetsy
"The seeming ground swell of radical Islam concerns me a lot but if they were all like that, at 1 billion strong in number, we'd all be slain."

Yup
1 .223 slug at a time.

Speaking of "unpleasant verses" in the Bible, would you care to submit one that directs Christians to slay an individual because they are muslim?

And since by that cute "(yet)" you've indicated that radical christians may someday pose a terrorist threat, well, I agree! Just like radical environmentalists, radical animal rights groups, radical anything!
The big difference here is that the islamic religion teaches that it's proper and even demanded that Christians, Jews, and Polytheists be shunned, cheated, and destroyed. These guys are not viewed as radical by the islamic world, instead they are heroes.

I've spent a lot of time in the Mideast, specifically Qatar, and I can verify that, at best, they only tolerate our existence as long as they can get $omething out of it.

When THAT stops, and they have all the guns and money, THEN we'll all be slain.

251 posted on 10/24/2002 11:56:46 AM PDT by Big Otto
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To: Big Otto
Not even radical Christians certainly posed a threat to the druids.
252 posted on 10/24/2002 11:59:04 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
Streeeeeeeeeeeeetch
253 posted on 10/24/2002 12:00:10 PM PDT by Big Otto
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To: Big Otto
Yeah, that's the beauty of the internet and freerepublic....we all get to stretch as much as we want.
254 posted on 10/24/2002 12:04:56 PM PDT by stuartcr
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To: EggsAckley
By the way, can you translate this----> (IIRC!) I keep seeing it but haven't a clue what it says. Thanks.

If i recall correctly, it stands for If I Recall Correctly.

255 posted on 10/24/2002 12:25:12 PM PDT by Database
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To: Michael2001

John Alan Muhammed and John Lee Malvo shown in a recent family photo provided by Muhhamed's former sister-in-law, Sheron Norman.

256 posted on 10/24/2002 12:36:57 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: hawkeyeBetsy
Nope -- totally objective comment. You're the bigot.
257 posted on 10/24/2002 12:44:35 PM PDT by Crowcreek
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To: Michael2001
It'll get better. Any day now, we'll be hearing how the anti-muslim post 9-11 backlash made him do it.
258 posted on 10/24/2002 12:50:22 PM PDT by wny
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To: stuartcr
Not even radical Christians certainly posed a threat to the druids.

I'm not sure what your sentence means, or even if it is a sentence. But if, on the off chance, you mean the Christians wiped out the druids, then why do I decorate a Christmas tree every year, and why is a tree hoisted to the top of nearly every tall building under construction?

Religions and cultures get wiped out for a number of reasons. There's a hot debate going on about the pre-history of South and Central America.

One thing about American culture -- we do not wipe out other cultures. I will admit we have taken land and forced natives into reservations. These may are may not constitute theft -- oddly enough, American culture allows these claims into court. And in the case of the Seminoles in Florida, the case was settled amicably, reparations were paid.

But Americans have never declared other cultures and other religions to be illegal.

Islam is a very special case because it does not distinguish between religious and political authority. This is totally incompatible with the most fundamental reason for the founding of our country. It is impossible to reconcile with Islam except on terms of victory.

Freepers old enough to remember the cold war will recall 70 years of apologists for communism (they had better health care, etc). We did not kill or deport communists (indeed, they dominate our universities); we did not bomb them, but we did defeat them. We will do the same with Islam.

When we are finished, perhaps a hundred years from now, there will still be muslims, but they will have dropped their Nazi rhetoric, learned to co-exist with other religions, granted equality to women -- in short, they will not be what they are today.

259 posted on 10/24/2002 1:13:41 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Illbay
You are the king of knee-jerk reactions against religion so I would guess you know the word for it as well as anyone.
260 posted on 10/24/2002 1:23:49 PM PDT by smoking camels
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