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Muslim arrested in Beltway case (John Muhammad)
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 24, 2002 | Art Moore

Posted on 10/24/2002 5:21:19 AM PDT by Michael2001

TACOMA, Wash. – Two men wanted for questioning in the D.C.-area sniper case were arrested early this morning at a rest stop near I-70 in the vicinity of Myersville, Md., about 45 miles northwest of the nation's capital, according to news reports.

John Allen Muhammad, 41, and stepson Lee Malvo, 17, were transported to Montgomery County, where the sniper task force is headquartered.

A rifle was found in Muhammad's car, reported WUSA-TV in Washington, D.C.

Neighbors who several years ago lived near Muhammad in Tacoma, Wash., described him last night as the head of a devout Muslim family who was prone to domestic violence, according to Seattle's KOMO-TV.

Federal sources said Muhammad and Malvo were known to speak sympathetically about the men who attacked the United States on Sept. 11, but the officials believe neither man to be associated with the al-Qaida terrorist network, the Seattle Times reported.

In connection with the sniper case, however, the FBI reportedly is searching "Camp Ground Zero USA" in Marion, Ala., a militant Islamic training camp with possible links to al-Qaida. Last night Fox News reported that FBI sources said "they are not at liberty to comment" and cannot confirm or deny their agents are investigating the camp.

WorldNetDaily reported two days after the D.C.-area shootings began Oct. 2 that FBI profilers believed the case fit no regular category and could find no motive other than terrorism. The shootings, which have caused an economic slowdown in the area, started four days after al-Qaida warned the U.S. that it would strike economic targets, WND reported last Thursday. A former CIA operative told WND in a story published Saturday, that the nature of the killings and Pentagon involvement in the probe support the terrorism theory.

In March 1999, Muhammad abducted his children and took them to the Caribbean after separating from his wife earlier that year, KOMO said. The children, a 12-year-old son and two younger daughters, now reportedly are in protective custody in Maryland.

As the focus of the Maryland-based sniper probe moved to the Pacific Northwest yesterday, task force head Charles Moose announced that Muhammad, also known as John Allen Williams, was being sought for information related to the case.

Moose told reporters last night that it should not be assumed that Muhammad "is involved in any of the shootings we are investigating," but is wanted for federal firearms violations and may have information material to the sniper probe.

Muhammad, described as about 6 feet 1 and 180 pounds, was believed to be traveling with a juvenile and considered "armed and dangerous," Moose said.

The Montgomery County, Md., police chief also gave a message to the sniper.

Moose said "our inability to talk has been a concern for us as well as for you," noting several attempts to establish a connection.

"You have indicated that you wanted us to do and say certain things," Moose said in his message to the sniper. "You asked us to say, 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say this is important to you."

The solution, Moose said, "remains to call us and get a private toll free number established," or write to a post office box address.

The police chief's references apparently were related to a note found at the site of Saturday's shooting near Richmond, Va., and another at Tuesday's Montgomery County attack both of which included a demand for $10 million.

Seattle's KOMO radio reports that Muhammad is a veteran of the Persian Gulf War.

A former soldier who says he recognized Muhammad in a photo on TV news last night said he served with Muhammad in the Army.

Randy Lyons, of Bothell, Wash., told KING-TV that he knew Muhammad as an "outstanding soldier" who had a "very pretty wife and kids."

Authorities said they also were searching for Muhammad's stepson, John Lee Malvo, a citizen of Jamaica, according to CNN and Fox News.

Fox said the two men are linked to a blue or burgundy 1990 Chevy Caprice with New Jersey license NDA-21Z, which matched the car in which they were found asleep.

Fox News also reported that warrants related to the D.C. case issued yesterday in Montgomery, Ala.

A telephone call from the sniper alerted investigators to look into a Sept. 21 fatal shooting at a liquor store in Montgomery, according to the Seattle Times.

An official said a piece of paper found at the Alabama shooting scene was traced to Malvo, who then was linked to a Tacoma house where he had been living with Muhammad.

Muhammad was based at nearby Fort Lewis, Wash., in 1994-95 and lived in a Tacoma neighborhood where a backyard search for ballistic material was conducted yesterday, according to Peggy Bellows, an editor for the Tacoma News Tribune.

FBI agents also conducted a search yesterday in Bellingham, Wash., related to two persons of interest in the D.C. sniper case, at least one of whom is "not a U.S. national," according to the mayor of the city in northwestern Washington state.

Agents in Tacoma recovered two shell casings along with a tree stump with bullet holes in the backyard of a fourplex, said KOMO-TV in Seattle.

The material was to be transported by air to Washington, D.C., according to news reports.

Bellingham mayor Mark Asmundson told Seattle's KING-TV that his police department began cooperating yesterday morning with FBI agents interested in two men who were residents of the city, near the Canadian border, in the past year and a half.

One was a student at Bellingham High School and the other was an older man, according to Asmundson.

A KOMO-TV report later confirmed that the student was Malvo.

The two were most recently in Bellingham nine months ago, Asmundson said.

"Being near the border, we've had our share of unusual characters in Bellingham," Asmundson said.

In Tacoma, sources confirmed that the search there was related to the D.C. sniper case, according to KIRO-TV.

Fort Lewis spokesman Lt. Col. Joseph Piek said the FBI had asked for help from the base, KOMO-TV reported.

The backyard search was conducted by consent of the property owner, said FBI spokesperson Melissa Mallon on the scene late yesterday afternoon. Local television news reports said the owner is not a person of interest.

"There is no immediate danger for anybody in this neighborhood," Mallon said. "If there were, we would let people know."

Tacoma mayor Bill Baarsma said in an interview with KING-TV in Seattle that he was called out of a meeting at about 12:30 p.m. yesterday to be met by the FBI.

"It was a day of irony for me, because I was called out of a meeting about how to cope with a terrorist attack," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; alqaeda; blackmuslims; blackpanthers; jamaatalfuqra; newblackpanthers
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To: Triple
I disagree, if people were terrorized, then the tango was a terrorist.

People are terrorized when facing a armed robber. Or the IRS. None the less,terrorism always has a political connection or it's not terrorism.

201 posted on 10/24/2002 9:19:42 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: dark_lord
>>And if they don't start speaking out, they will be condemned for their silence, for their silence will be interpreted as affirmation. And if and when that happens, upon their own heads be it.

They've been not speaking out for more than a year now. Many of us here (most?) are at the "silence is affirmation, upon their own heads be it" stage.
202 posted on 10/24/2002 9:23:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Jeff Head
Trav, IMHO you called this type of thing months and months ago.

I remember Trav saying that too.

203 posted on 10/24/2002 9:25:42 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: Jeff Head
That money could easily have been ear marked for the cause IMHO.

Nope,it was just greed combined with stupidity. If this had a political agenda,the demand would have been to "provide x million dollars worth of aid to...",or "release the political prisoners from ..."

You may be too young to remember some of the political things done by the Black Panthers from the 60's. One of the things was demanding free groceries be given away in Oakland. I believe the SLA that kidnapped Patty Hearst did this same thing,but they demanded (IIRC!) the Hearst family use their own wealth to provide the groceries. This was political,and it got them a lot of support they wouldn't have gotten if they had demanded "put $50,000 in a trash can on the corner of...."

Face it,anybody with a room temperature IQ KNOWS there is no way to hold a modern country like the US up for ransom,and hope to ever be able to collect the money and live. ANY money paid out is tracable,and you become a target the minute you tell them where to send or pay the money.

204 posted on 10/24/2002 9:27:23 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
"On top of that - muslim and osama/atta follower/sympathetic. It is a no brainer to me. - terrorist" The part of my 118 that you did not quote.

How did you miss that part? - it was the only other line in my post.

Again, these tangos have all the ingredients for terrorist - even under your restricted definition.

205 posted on 10/24/2002 9:28:50 AM PDT by Triple
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To: moron
You can't uniformly condemn a religion because they preach killing their enemies because all (major) religions have, at least at point or another.

You can uniformly condemn a religion that preaches that innocent people are enemies and that these enemies should be killed.

206 posted on 10/24/2002 9:28:51 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreedomPoster
Silence can only speak to those that have already decided what they want to hear.
207 posted on 10/24/2002 9:30:39 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: GnL
Rita Cosby is intelligence-challenged. Did you see her when the Supreme Court came down with their Bush/Gore decision? That was an abomination

Unfortunately I missed that. I was watching MSNBC who had the lawyer/reporter Abrams on whose dad had been before the SCOTUS many times and actually understood what he was reading.

208 posted on 10/24/2002 9:32:06 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: agrace
I want to know how this camp is allowed to operate this way in the first place

The video Fox showed of the shot up School buses and police cars in the "training camp" said a lot more than the brain dead newsreaders. Fortunately most Americans aren't as stupid. I think.

209 posted on 10/24/2002 9:32:27 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: stuartcr
And just exactly what do you think it says?
210 posted on 10/24/2002 9:34:42 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Lx
I mistook it for the one that was an Islamic training center neighbors were complaining about hearing shots from that I thought was in Alabama. I can't find it, dose anyone know where it was

Maybe you are thinking of the camp being set up by Al Qaeda folks in Washington state or was it Oregon. Guy involved was head of the largest mosque on west coast.

211 posted on 10/24/2002 9:35:45 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: FreedomPoster
Silence says nothing. I do have a pretty good idea of what your interpretation of it is, though.
212 posted on 10/24/2002 9:39:27 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: sneakypete
Nope,it was just greed combined with stupidity. If this had a political agenda,the demand would have been to "provide x million dollars worth of aid to...",or "release the political prisoners from ..."

How can you dismiss the possibility that the motives were both greed and terror?

Just because you have proven that greed was a motive does not discount the possibility that terror was also a motive.

213 posted on 10/24/2002 9:39:28 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Aquinasfan
The shot that really got me was the female mannequin kind of lounging half under a blanket on a couch. With a little imagination, you could imagine her just hanging out in her living room watching tv.
214 posted on 10/24/2002 9:40:03 AM PDT by agrace
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To: stuartcr
You're either with us or against us. Where are you?

You should have a pretty good idea of my interpretation of silence on your part.
215 posted on 10/24/2002 9:45:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: moron
I disagree with only two things in your post:

1. Your logic was, and remains, faulty for the reasons I stated.

2. I never said or did anything to "the friends of Illbay," whoever they may be. You must have me confused with someone else.

216 posted on 10/24/2002 9:49:14 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: FreedomPoster
See, you have no idea about anything that has to do with my thinking, yet you interpret my silence in any way you wish. Just because you think something, doesn't make it true.
217 posted on 10/24/2002 9:49:30 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
Perception is reality. Blissful ignorance does not protect you from the consequences of blissful ignorance.

Carry on.
218 posted on 10/24/2002 9:53:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: sit-rep
I hate to be a pessimist, but if they ain't said nothin' so far about the Islam issue, they ain't gonna IMHO. This country is sick with PCism to the point of no chance of recovery. Sad, but true.

If our country is going to unshackle itself from Political Correctness I'm afraid it will only be after more 9/11s and mass murder incidents like this. Yes, so far, PC is alive and well.

The most OUTRAGEOUS aspect of this is that we are INCREDIBLY still allowing immigration from ME Terrorist Harboring Nations at the same rate as before 9/11.

Makes me seriously question our nation's sense of survival.

219 posted on 10/24/2002 9:57:04 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: FreedomPoster
Perception of something that is not there, ie a spoken word or action, is not reality, it's interpretation.
220 posted on 10/24/2002 9:58:25 AM PDT by stuartcr
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