Posted on 10/24/2002 5:12:32 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
Preparing for Jihad ? in Alabama
Islamic Militant Training Camp Allegedly Operating in Alabama
July 25 ? A training camp linked to Islamic militants has been operating in Alabama, and European law enforcement officials believe Muslim extremists were using it to prepare for a holy war.
British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws, sources told ABCNEWS. The looming question for law enforcement is whether there is a connection between the camp and the al Qaeda terror network.
An investigation by Britain's Scotland Yard led to the discovery of the camp in Marion, Ala. The facility is called "Ground Zero USA."
Bullet-riddled police cars and a school bus with mannequin targets are scattered around the property. Inside a huge shed is an equally macabre scene ? shot-up mannequins, male and female, in domestic settings, some with red, blood-like stains on them.
Ground Zero's operators promised state-of-the-art, world-class training in automatic weapons, urban warfare, SWAT tactics and martial arts, supposedly to fight terror attacks.
Marion Police Chief Tony Buford said he became suspicious of the use of police cars and buses as targets.
"It was rumored that the camp here was used as training site for possible people that were sent here to do bodily harm to Americans," Buford told ABCNEWS.
Web Site Provides Terror Link
The suspected terror ties of the Alabama camp were unknown until after Sept. 11, when officials in London arrested an accused al Qaeda supporter, Zain-ul-Albidin
He is charged with operation of a Web site, under the name of Sakina Security, allegedly recruiting Muslims for an Islamic jihad or holy war. He is now on trial in London.
The site, since taken down by British authorities, described what seemed to be the Alabama camp, including live-fire exercises at a state-of-the-art shooting range in the United States ? something that would not be legal in Britain.
"In the United States, it is not illegal for anyone to receive military training, high-grade military training," said Rohan Gunaratna, author of Inside Al Qaeda.
The actual owners of camp, who are also British, say it was used primarily to train law enforcement personnel. Officials consider them unwitting accomplices. The camp owners declined to talk to ABCNEWS.
Scale of Secret Camps Unknown
It is not known how many holy war recruits came through the camp or when. But the FBI is now investigating a number of suspected training camps around the country.
"We know of a number of cases where Islamic terrorists came and training in this country in the early 1990s. It is likely that this scale of training is still continuing," Gunaratna said.
The most radical and belligerent of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a phone call that America's laws make such paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."
British intelligence officials told ABCNEWS they are closely examining alleged ties between Hamza, who is said to have recruited alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, and Zain-ul-Albidin.
You work with Bill CLinton? It must be awful.
That's the beauty of this, if there is any.
The liberal press doesn't know whether to call him "black" or "Muslim"...
I bet their worthless brains are frying in their skulls right now. "MUSLIM?""BLACK?""MUSLIM?""BLACK?"
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!"
:-)
Pssst...my advice...don't waste your time with anniegetyourgun. She's been out on her broken limb all morning, and she won't come down no matter what you say.
;-)
EXCELLENT!!!
Red
It has no connection at all to this case. It has now been admitted on some news sources that the place was not searched by the FBI. There is also no connection to any kind to Islamic terrorists, nor right wing militia's, not that there would be anything wrong if it were related to militia's.
Contrary to what 90% of Americans think, there was no relationship at all between Timothy McVeigh and any Militia.
This training center submits the name of all people who train there to the FBI. The owner has not even been contacted about the case except by reporters who somehow got a false story and put it out without checking their facts.
I know little about militias except I have seen them recruiting at a gun show and I generally agree with their politics.
I saw the Montgomery police chief this morning and thought his press conference was a breath of fresh air after hearing the Moose stumble through all his.
Go to the link I provided and ask them yourselves.
As for John Mohammed, or John Williams, the owner of the camp, a Mr. Yates, told John Gibson on FOXNEWS this morning that he had never come through the camp, and that neither the FBI, ATF, nor terrorism task force had contacted him.
Take off your tinfoil, thinden. Your head's getting really shiny!
Yep sure these guys are just your normal American crime spree Black Americans, nothing abnormal here whatsoever. Yep, if you repete it enough perhaps someone will believe you, but not very likely here. Try another web site (perhaps some site having to do with the Million Man March or Islam is love).
You've got to be kidding? They still won't admit the Islamist connection. It's mind boggling.
Wrong on all counts. It's a CULT thing ... and that CULT is ISLAM!
This guy converted to Islam 17 years ago, according to the news reports. According to Neighbors of his in Washington State, he was an outspoken critic of the U.S. *and* celebrated Sept. 11th 2001 when 3,000+ people died in the terrorist attacks.
Try him, fry him.
And it's time that a "jihad" was declared against every Muslim in the U.S. Find 'em and ship 'em all home I say.
They can go willingly or not, frankly I don't care which way as long as they're gone.
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Deport them too, to a Muslim run country.
Fact: Islam is a Cult.
Fact: Islam is as much a political system as it is a Religious Cult.
Fact: Islam seeks to replace the governments of the world that practice anything other than Sharia law.
Fact: Islam currently seeks to replace the Government of Britain with announced plans to introduce Sharia Law to the UK.
Fact: The Imam of the London Mosque recently announced that Sharia law would be implemented, and that once in place they would seize the Queen of England and be-head her. (This, from the "religion of peace")
Fact: Islam undermines OUR political system with it's so-called "religious" activities in their Mosque's every day in America. Islam calls for the implementation of Sharia Law here.
Fact: By seeking to undermine our government and replace it by violent means, Islam's "religious" tax exempt status should be revoked.
Fact: Islam should be declared a political movement - a VIOLENT political movement and BANNED from this country.
Fact: Anyone (and I mean ANYONE) who practices Islam is a danger to this country and should be deported. I don't care if they were born here or not.
Now, I realize this post may "offend" some people's alleged "sensibilities" here, but that's the way I see it, and I'm entitled to my non-PC opinion! Those who don't like it can go jump off a cliff....
that's not tinfoil, sinky. I've moved up to mylar.
you are the one making statements and backing them up with fallacious reasoning and half truths. if you can't back it up with facts, don't make these assertions. this is a discussion forum, not a propoganda machine.
No. You are the one who seems to think GroundZeroUSA is a terrorist training camp. I posted 40 police agencies which used it,none of whom are terrorist groups, as far as I know.
If you want to prove that the camp IS a terrorist training ground, it is up to you to prove it, not me.
I don't think it is. Prove me wrong.
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