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Sniper Search near Seattle (digging for evidence)
Local NBC News Channel | Oct 23, 02 | MSNBC

Posted on 10/23/2002 4:20:21 PM PDT by spycatcher

MSNBC reporting sniper related digging and searching of a building in Tacoma WA. FBI is involved. May be related to something the sniper told police


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: search; sniper; tacoma
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To: aristeides
Ivan Rule, a sheepherder, was living alone at the ranch in 1999 when he met Ayat Hakimah, an American Muslim and avid horsewoman. When they decided to marry, they called Semi Osman, former imam of the now-defunct Dar us Salaam mosque in Seattle's Central District.

From your link in #1343. I don't know how you keep up with all the connections.

1,401 posted on 10/23/2002 7:42:25 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Professional
"Put the lasagna down and back away from the plate.."
1,402 posted on 10/23/2002 7:42:26 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution
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To: cmsgop
Burger Not BOOGER!
1,403 posted on 10/23/2002 7:42:34 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
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Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1,404 posted on 10/23/2002 7:42:38 PM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: Alas Babylon!
"Son-of-a-Bitch!!!!!! Marion, Alabama had a Jihad training camp????!!!! Blam, Commish, how the hell did that happen!!??!!??"

Boy Howdy!!

1,405 posted on 10/23/2002 7:42:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: Mamzelle
Thanks for the link. This is unbelievable--especially that it took Scotland Yard to uncover this!

Preparing for Jihad in Alabama
Islamic Militant Training Camp Allegedly Operating in Alabama

ABC News/July 25, 2002
By Brian Ross
A training camp linked to Islamic militants has been operating in Alabama, and European law enforcement officials believe Muslim extremists were using it to prepare for a holy war.

British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws, sources told ABCNEWS. The looming question for law enforcement is whether there is a connection between the camp and the al Qaeda terror network. An investigation by Britain's Scotland Yard led to the discovery of the camp in Marion, Ala. The facility is called "Ground Zero USA."

Bullet-riddled police cars and a school bus with mannequin targets are scattered around the property. Inside a huge shed is an equally macabre scene - shot-up mannequins, male and female, in domestic settings, some with red, blood-like stains on them.

Ground Zero's operators promised state-of-the-art, world-class training in automatic weapons, urban warfare, SWAT tactics and martial arts, supposedly to fight terror attacks.

Marion Police Chief Tony Buford said he became suspicious of the use of police cars and buses as targets.

"It was rumored that the camp here was used as training site for possible people that were sent here to do bodily harm to Americans," Buford told ABCNEWS.

Web Site Provides Terror Link
The suspected terror ties of the Alabama camp were unknown until after Sept. 11, when officials in London arrested an accused al Qaeda supporter, Zain-ul-Albidin

He is charged with operation of a Web site, under the name of Sakina Security, allegedly recruiting Muslims for an Islamic jihad or holy war. He is now on trial in London.

The site, since taken down by British authorities, described what seemed to be the Alabama camp, including live-fire exercises at a state-of-the-art shooting range in the United States - something that would not be legal in Britain.

"In the United States, it is not illegal for anyone to receive military training, high-grade military training," said Rohan Gunaratna, author of Inside Al Qaeda.

The actual owners of camp, who are also British, say it was used primarily to train law enforcement personnel. Officials consider them unwitting accomplices. The camp owners declined to talk to ABCNEWS.

Scale of Secret Camps Unknown
It is not known how many holy war recruits came through the camp or when. But the FBI is now investigating a number of suspected training camps around the country.

"We know of a number of cases where Islamic terrorists came and training in this country in the early 1990s. It is likely that this scale of training is still continuing," Gunaratna said.

The most radical and belligerent of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a phone call that America's laws make such paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."

British intelligence officials told ABCNEWS they are closely examining alleged ties between Hamza, who is said to have recruited alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, and Zain-ul-Albidin.






1,406 posted on 10/23/2002 7:43:08 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: mlbford2
More up-to-the-minute info is being pounded out here at FR than all the three cables put together. My profound admiration for our alert freeper reporters and reporteretts who are right on top of everything!

Leni

1,407 posted on 10/23/2002 7:43:33 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Billthedrill
Channel 5 must have asked the Mayor of Bellingham the same questions at least 3 times.

The BHAM connection is interesting. Older man, highschool boy, one not American born....

1,408 posted on 10/23/2002 7:43:42 PM PDT by Professional
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To: spycatcher
I hear on ABC radio news at the 10:00 hour this am central that the Marine Corps @ Quantico, Va, cancelled thier Sniper competition, scheduled for this week end, when hundereds of snipers, trained by the Marines were scheduled to compete. They did not think that based on what is going on in the DC area, that the competition should not take place.

They said that the Marines will still allow the marathon to go fordward.

Did any one else hear about this?

Nothing in the news. I heard it. Tom
1,409 posted on 10/23/2002 7:43:53 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: blam
Preparing for Jihad … in Alabama : Ground Zero's operators promised state-of-the-art, world-class training in automatic weapons, urban warfare, SWAT tactics and martial arts, supposedly to fight terror attacks.
1,410 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:01 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: blam
I smell some punitive transfers cooking.
1,411 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:14 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: lelio
Try Tam Yang Koong - yum - spicy shrimp soup - to die for...
1,412 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:38 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: lawdog
Try a search of Loudoun and islamic, too.
1,413 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:38 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: cmsgop
All your phad thai belong to US.
1,414 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:48 PM PDT by Professional
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To: kcvl; All
I must be going. Blurred vision - can't see straight.

Everyone else, I respectfully request that you stay up ALL NIGHT to keep the thread current so I can check it in the morning. Nighty night.

I want these scumbags caught and given the death penalty through some legal loophole regarding enemy combatants. No more pleading guilty and getting some prison time. Fregards, FV

1,415 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:50 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: MinuteGal
More up-to-the-minute info is being pounded out here at FR than all the three cables put together.
Yes, you know now that there are 4 Thai restaurants within a stone's throw of Seattle Center, and 10 of them out in Redmond :)
What is Greta on FOX doing wearing a coat? Is she at the Maryland police PR tent?
1,416 posted on 10/23/2002 7:45:10 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Professional
ARE belong to us!
1,417 posted on 10/23/2002 7:45:15 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution
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To: DoctorMichael
If I lived in Va I'd load up my two wiener dogs, get my shotgun and go hunt some TEWOWISTS.
1,418 posted on 10/23/2002 7:45:19 PM PDT by mlbford2
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To: sinkspur
The fact that they've asked for illegals to come forward indicates that this guy is likely Hispanic.

No, it's because many individuals of hispanic descent live in and around the area of the shooting. One or more of them may have seen something but didn't call police due to fears about their immigration status.

1,419 posted on 10/23/2002 7:45:41 PM PDT by KevinB
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To: Cboldt
Took a stump into custody, and will fly it to Rockville, MD.

Hope they read the stump it's rights. Else they have no case.

1,420 posted on 10/23/2002 7:45:53 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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