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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Wed., Oct. 23,2002
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 23, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/23/2002 2:39:33 AM PDT by Peach

Let's keep a live commentary thread going again today. The FBI Tip Line #1-888-324-9800.

All seems quiet since yesterday's news the shooter may target children specifically. It was released on various news outlets the shooter's 3-page letter to police was in broken English and threatened extreme violence. Police announced an electronic transfer of $10m as requested by the shooter was not possible but other options for transfer remain open. No one seriously believes police will actually give the shooter $$, but police are trying to keep a dialogue open with the shooter in an effort to capture this monster.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: beltwaysniper; dc; dcsniper; dcsnipers; fbi; investigation; maryland; shootings; sniper; terrorism; virginia
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To: Howlin; Peach
The burgandy Caprice was spotted at least twice since this all began. The LEOs were mostly looking for the white van, but that burgandy Caprice kept poking its head in. I really can't remember which threads or days it was on. Maybe Peach knows.
2,781 posted on 10/23/2002 7:43:23 PM PDT by Slip18
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To: looney tune
Burgundy/blue caprice - jersey (yikes!) tags. Seen at the last shooting

The "Torch" was driving the get away car ?

2,782 posted on 10/23/2002 7:43:28 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: MasonGal
Easy: They're homegrowm terrorists, then it's back to ME terrorists, then we're back to homegrown terrorists, then we're back to ME terrorists... You get the idea.
2,783 posted on 10/23/2002 7:43:31 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
"Fox news just said there was a consent in tacoma without a warrant. Interesting!

The property that was searched in Tacoma tonight is a duplex, probably a rental and the people living in the duplex at this time are not suspects.

2,784 posted on 10/23/2002 7:43:33 PM PDT by aeronca
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To: commish
Thank you. I have been screaming since the 2200's that Semi Osman talked. They are sweeping up this cell! He got ticked about the psyop of the 10M dollars.
2,785 posted on 10/23/2002 7:43:56 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: rintense
Is it? Shoot

Please don't do that. We have had enough.

2,786 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:01 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: RobFromGa
That makes me ill. How can people see that and not stop it? Yes, the terrorist have said they are going to start shooting us in our homes. I think the town of Marion, Al. need a new sheriff.
2,787 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:04 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
He was supposedly an unwitting accomplice. Just ran a school but did not know his students were terrorists.

Here is another story:

UK-based Islamic terrorists linked to US training camps

Author: David Leppard and Nick Fielding

Publication: The Times of India

Date: August 2, 2002

A group of Briton-based Islamic militants has been linked to two secret training camps in America where suspected Al Qaida terrorists were taught to poison water supplies and given weapons training.

A team of MI5 officers will fly to America in the next few weeks to investigate links between British supporters of Osama bin Laden and ranches in Oregon and Alabama.

At least three men arrested in Oregon earlier this month are followers of Abu Hamza, the Muslim cleric whose radical preachings at a north London mosque have attracted several British men to the Al Qaida cause. These include Richard Reid, the so-called shoe bomber, who tried to blow up a passenger jet last Christmas.

Hamza has already been accused by the British and American governments of being a "terrorist financier". He is also wanted for a string of terrorist- related kidnappings in the Middle East.

During a search at one ranch in Bly, Oregon, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) officers acting on information from Scotland Yard uncovered what investigators call "instructions in poisoning water sources".

At a second camp near Marion, Alabama, police found bullet-riddled police cars, school buses and dummies. They were thought to have been used as targets in mock raids.

The discoveries reinforced concerns that the remnants of Bin Laden's terrorist group may be planning a chemical or biological attack on the water supplies of America, Britain or another western country. Al Qaida units have recently been caught while planning to poison water supplies in Italy and Algeria.

One of those held by the FBI is James Ujaama, a 36-year-old American convert to Islam who worshipped with Hamza at the Finsbury Park mosque in London. Ujaama has lived on and off in London for the past three years. At the Finsbury Park mosque, where he helped to build and run Hamza's website, he was known as Bilal Ahmed.

He lived in Forest Gate, east London, with his wife Faria and her family. Chas Singh, the family's landlord, said he first met Ujaama two years ago. "He was a fanatical Muslim. I just used to ignore him ... But there were loads of people coming in and out of there. The ones who knew Ujaama were dressed differently to the family. They would wear white outfits". He said Ujaama lived in America and used to travel in and out of Britain frequently.

Ujaama's name surfaced earlier this year after he was identified as an Al Qaida suspect by one of seven Britons held in Camp X-Ray, the US high-security prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Feroz Abbassi, from Croydon, south London, was captured in Afghanistan while fighting for the Taliban. He is said to have told MI5 that he was escorted to an Al Qaida camp in Afghanistan by Ujaama in 2000.

Last week Hamza, who lost an eye and both arms while supporting the Islamic "holy war" against the Russians in Afghanistan, said Ujaama had worked with him for six months at the Finsbury Park mosque. He denied involvement in terrorism and said attempts by the FBI to link him to the Oregon camp were absurd.

2,788 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:18 PM PDT by JDGreen123
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To: All
Ok - ya'll - I just got on a few minutes ago - what is the thought here on this thread from all of you guys. It's probably not terrorism-linked at this point, is it? Again - I just got home and I'm trying to catch up.

What's your take on all of this? I cannot POSSIBLY read everything posted on this thread. YIKES!!

2,789 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:18 PM PDT by MasonGal
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To: tubebender
LOL!
2,790 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:36 PM PDT by looney tune
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Both. Converts with guidance from ME's. Race/color irrelevant- ideology is.
2,791 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:40 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: dixiechick2000
LOL!
2,792 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:46 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: valleygal
"There were 8 posts between my double post."

There were only three between mine. LOL!

2,793 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:47 PM PDT by Slip18
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To: aeronca
Yeppers..

I was just surprised they didn't go there with one already prepared. (having one drawn up in advance) Maybe they did, but didn't have to use it.
2,794 posted on 10/23/2002 7:44:54 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: poppyseed; HairOfTheDog
Yah.

Hair: then there's the story of my *friend* that has been questioned lately by the FBI in connection with this story. Sad thing is... that person was questioned again yesterday by a *different* group of agents, at his home, and they didn't know anything about the previous agents that had already been satisfied and went away. [sigh] They were working the same tip sheet and didn't even know it.
2,795 posted on 10/23/2002 7:45:40 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Miss Marple
LOL
2,796 posted on 10/23/2002 7:45:46 PM PDT by Txslady
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To: tubebender
LOL!!
2,797 posted on 10/23/2002 7:45:56 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Darlin'
It was quite a time. Men in neighborhood - no food, no conversation that didn't begin with Sore Looserman.
2,798 posted on 10/23/2002 7:46:00 PM PDT by Peach
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To: MasonGal
Well, I think it is dangerous to claim to speak for the thread, but at this point it looks home-grown... But then, that's just me, I could be wrong! ;~D
2,799 posted on 10/23/2002 7:46:21 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: TexKat; GeorgeandtheDralgore; RobFromGa
http://www.nbc13.com/news/1578748/detail.html

Here is a link to the story about the camp. It says the camp was used by police officers.

But, I still ask--why Marion, Alabama?

I guess we'll find out soon...

2,800 posted on 10/23/2002 7:46:39 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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