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myself and the obvious | 10-22-02 | my favorite headache

Posted on 10/22/2002 6:08:27 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Won't make this too long here just throwing out an idea here. The cops were watching this pay phone booth yesterday. 2 illegal immigrants pull up to it and we know the rest of the story. I came up with a theory today that I wanted some opinions on. I am thinking that the 2 men a Mexican and a Guataemalen were probably very common user's of this pay phone. Most illegal immigrants resort to using calling cards to call their homeland and usually early in the morning or real late at night depending on the time change of their country to the U.S..

The sniper cell is obviously traveling in different cars here. Maybe having cased a particular route everywhere there are white vans. These guys are watched for a couple of days and he sees that they use this payphone and have a truck fitting the description. Remember calling cards come up or are traced back to the number of the company that issues the card. Only then can the company trace back to what phone booth a call is made from.

So the sniper cell leaves a message from that phone number days ago after the 6th or 7th shooting. The law finally gets the number down and the message from the tips line as calls 8 and 9 come in. The cell demands money for an offshore account. The law tells them we can't do that for you today.

Is it possible that the offshore account was blackmail or extortion to an account that would funnel much needed money to other cells or an organization that found the means to use this money for funding operations? Ala Al Qaeda which trained in these very things? Electronical terrorism...and a host of other things by use of computers and banks.

I truly believe we are in the next wave here and the color chart is still sitting at code 3. Truly showing how useless it is. Al Qaeda and its supporting groups have had its money stripped from them for the most part and choked off. Is this the new means of getting money? They most certainly trained for this. They most certainly made these threats on our childred over the last year. They have most certainly trained for Urban Terrorism.

We have seen the CNN videos captured from Afghanistan. We have been warned of these types of attacks and methods. Yet, our government is trying its best to distance itself from terrorism. They will not show a picture of the missing French soldier who specialized in sniping so to say.

A French terrorist you say? Well who is sitting and playing our government in VIRGINIA like a fiddle? Moussaoi...the 20th hi-jacker.

Still don't think it is terrorism or Al Qaeda related? Prove me wrong...or add to this thread. Explain to me why the accent and the spelling of these notes is screaming of coming from a foreigner not familiar with the English language.

Prove me wrong or give me a reason why it is not Al Qaeda or terrorism FreeRepublic.com.

Why do I feel as if this country is protecting a certain group of people in this country right now because if the truth came out...the government would lose control of the population and the rest of the population would take matters into their own hands.

God how could we ever do that? Actually fight the war on terror on the home front.

Just do what they tell ya.


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To: kennyboy509
The phone number on the note was for that phone booth the cops staked out and busted the nitwits.

You are wrong on this one kennyboy. The perps are still communicating on that phone number with the coppers today.

101 posted on 10/22/2002 8:52:58 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: My Favorite Headache
I think you were right these two fellas were staked out by the sniper. He knew they would show up and he could see the response tactics of the police. I also think that the folks in these communities need to come together and not cower in fear. They need to form community watches...patrol around schools...patrol around wooded areas near stores and schools in two's....they also need to be prepared for when someone is hit drop to the ground with the wounded, someone calls or gets help and the rest IMMEDIATELY scour their surroundings....the police are not going to get this solved on their own..but must bring the neighborhoods together. Granted their maybe alot of white vans...have a line setup to phone in the license plates...put them on an Excel spreadsheet you can quickly tell if you have dupes....also one for the station wagon....let the sniper or people know that we will not be overtaken by fear but will work together to solve this case....what do you think?
102 posted on 10/22/2002 8:55:16 PM PDT by LADYAK
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To: My Favorite Headache
A kid was shot this evening, near Pittsburgh, a 4-hour drive from Silver Spring, MD.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/774086/posts
103 posted on 10/22/2002 8:59:21 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: LADYAK
I don't think it can be done that easy although if a universal plan is in effect then yes...it can work. The reason is because the sniper/snipers keep using different states and cities and alternating routes. I really am betting on this going to North Carolina or West Virginia next. But I don't think it will leave too far because the tags and plates on the car would have to be regional to go through a road block or not to draw suspicion.
104 posted on 10/22/2002 9:05:18 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Palladin
Yep. I already posted thoughts to that thread earlier.
105 posted on 10/22/2002 9:05:42 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
The FBI profilers have stated that it's definitely a white male. Got that? A WHITE MALE... Not a Middle-eastern Moslem... A WHITE MALE.

Just remember that...

White...

Male...

Not an Arab.

In fact, here's a sketch of the suspect... The WHITE suspect...

link

106 posted on 10/22/2002 9:09:33 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: My Favorite Headache
Here are some reasons why Georges fills in many blanks:

*We can't get a gander at him. Hardly anybody knows about him. If it is him and Moose & Co. know it, they don't want to spook him because they're trying to close in.

*Rich kid leaves for America and Canada on 'holiday', hasn't spoken to family for months, who report him missing. That rich kid in Florida who flew that twin-prop into that office tower was distanced from his parents, and was a fan of Bin Laden.

*Being new to the US, with no family would leave no friends, employers etc to report strange behavior or absenteeism. Conversely, the people who knew him most, his french colleagues, picked up on the connection very rapidly and reported it to the deans. Evidently, they knew his profile: it 'seemed like something he'd do.'

*His motivation? A higher position in Islam. He might be building a resume to a future employer.

*The French have heavy investment in Iraqi oil: he might have much opportunity to consort with Iraqi Biggies.

There's more...

107 posted on 10/22/2002 9:10:29 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: My Favorite Headache
I won't go as far as this but it is a possibility.

The fact is, that we do not know and the cops are just now starting to learn. I see this thing playing out soon or the perps will vanish. Let's all hope and pray the perps make the big mistake soon.

108 posted on 10/22/2002 9:11:20 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: mykdsmom; My Favorite Headache
Have you seen this thread? There is a lot of speculation about the money.

Moose: Can't Communicate Electronically with you

109 posted on 10/22/2002 9:12:18 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Redcloak
LMFAO!
110 posted on 10/22/2002 9:13:09 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Palladin
If they are day laborers, they would be using the phone to call in to the agency or their employer to see if there was work for them that day, or to find out what location to go to.

That was my thought as well.

111 posted on 10/22/2002 9:13:44 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Sunday afternoon became Sunday evening, with no telephone call from the sniper, sources said.

At 7:10 p.m., Moose made the first of his five public appeals to the attacker:

"To the person who left us a message at the Ponderosa last night, you gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk to you. Call us at the number you provided."

Monday morning, a person police believe to be the sniper called again, according to sources. This time police traced it to telephones in the vicinity of an Exxon station in suburban Richmond.

Police dispatched a SWAT team to secretly watch the area. By about 8:30 a.m., an undocumented worker pulled a white minivan up to the phone and started making calls. Another man, also a laborer in this country illegally, was waiting nearby.

Some minutes later, local police decided to move in and grab both men, in a scene that was carried on cable news networks and for a short time provided hope of a break in the frustrating case.

This is from a Wash comPost article just posted by kristinn. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2317-2002Oct22.html

I believe about a third of what's in it.

112 posted on 10/22/2002 9:15:55 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
a 3rd...lol...I am still keeping all options open...thanks for the post.
113 posted on 10/22/2002 9:29:00 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
You've got to go with your instincts, because we're not getting very many facts at all in this case.

At least that's what I'm doing.
114 posted on 10/22/2002 9:31:09 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Redcloak
LOL!
115 posted on 10/22/2002 9:32:02 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: My Favorite Headache
The attacker(s) is not Al-Qaidah. Use of Tarot cards, equating self with God, writing "God" instead of "Allah", leaving calling cards, negotiating/communicating with police, etc. all are firmly opposed to the Muslim extremists' MO.

Far more likely this is a homegrown sociopath with a God complex: "I am God", mimicking/demonstrating omnipotent/omnicient/omnipresent wannabe behavior, frequent proximity to Michael (meaning "Godlike") stores and cemeteries, negotiating power games, etc.
116 posted on 10/22/2002 9:51:01 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: txflake
I think it's the Frenchman as well.

He'll be caught because the little old lady living next door will notice that her secretive, foreign-looking neighbor, who drives a leased white van, is always gone whenever a shooting takes place and never goes anywhere without his duffle bag.

117 posted on 10/22/2002 9:56:37 PM PDT by Misty Memory
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To: My Favorite Headache
so what are the odds that two guys in a white van are going to use the very phone the police are scoping out and then are dismissed as non-participants ? ... i think the police are onto something (but then, I thot xxxlinton was going to be in the bread line after his impeachment trial)
118 posted on 10/22/2002 10:01:36 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: My Favorite Headache
At first I thought it was going to be a american nut case out to impress an imagined girl friend (think Hinckley and Jody Foster). But with the ability to avoid capture, I'm beginning to believe it is a terror cell of some type. There are a few places in the US you would want to attack to make good headlines. New York, DC, Los Angeles these are the places where local reporting will go national. A sniper in fly-over would not get a column in-side of any national paper, let alone front billing on network TV.

I think you are right about multiple cars. I think the white van is a mis-lead. Perhaps they try to act near a white van to mis-direct attention to an innocent. Notice the van has changed types? Sometimes its a chevy van, sometimes its a box truck.

I don't watch much network news, so I don't have any clue on the notes/communication. But I think this is going to be a mis-lead also. Tie up the police leaders on trying to jump ahead of a non-existant cry for help or word game.

I think this is about terror. Perhaps a desperate stranded AQ cell. Having no orders or communication, they act in the only way they know how. They watch the news, and analyze the response of the experts. Tune their next attack with the new intel. With the upside of possible funding for more terror.

The French have been in communication with their deserter, and the focus is off him. The topic at work today was that no Frenchman was bold enough to be a sniper. Then it came out that the French deserter is a Yugoslav.

119 posted on 10/22/2002 10:03:05 PM PDT by ElectricRook
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To: My Favorite Headache
I would like to know the nationality of the French sniper, besides "French".
120 posted on 10/22/2002 10:12:17 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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