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Fox News Alert. Montgomery County ANOTHER SHOOTING!!!
Fox News | 10/22/02

Posted on 10/22/2002 3:17:53 AM PDT by areafiftyone

JUST BREAKING!!! Police confirm another shooting. But are not sure if it is related.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
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To: isthisnickcool
what is "occam's razor". it's been mentioned on different threads at different times.
541 posted on 10/22/2002 7:49:13 AM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: CougarGA7
They felt that the sniper probably lived in the area for the same reasons you stated, which is they start in areas they are familiar with.
542 posted on 10/22/2002 7:49:51 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Good to know that the shooter can pass the weapon to a female accomplice who can drive it out.

Yup,or the shooter could even be a woman. Or a cop.

543 posted on 10/22/2002 7:50:00 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Kerberos
I know the feeling, my FReep time is decreasing as well.
It was just a thought that came to mind as I was watching the live feed this AM.

I went elk hunting 2 weeks ago, we were on a fairly flat mesa with a few well spaced tree-lines. We still heard some pretty distinct echo reports as other hunters too their shots. Nothing echoes a gunshot as well as a solid wall!

Another observation...when we were in among the trees, the three of us often had conflicting opinions about the direction from which any one shot was coming. Victim's position and the wound track within the body are almost always the best indicator of the shooter's location...

HJ
544 posted on 10/22/2002 7:50:45 AM PDT by HiJinx
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
That's what went through my mind too. The circumstances surrounding this latest shooting just re-enforces my belief on this.
545 posted on 10/22/2002 7:51:39 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: The Red Zone; Catspaw
This bus shot would be something new. He can't set up an aim in advance for a bus door shot since he does not know precisely where the bus will stop.

Good point. Also, note this from AP

"The bus was parked at a staging area where drivers get ready for their morning runs, state police spokesman Cpl. Rob Moroney said. He didn't know if anyone else was on the bus."

It seems to me that someone needs to know this staging area exists, that it isn't just scouted like the gas stations near the highways.

546 posted on 10/22/2002 7:52:30 AM PDT by ARCADIA
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To: CougarGA7
What about a local Black Muslim, similar to the Portland terrorists?
547 posted on 10/22/2002 7:53:05 AM PDT by Eva
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To: katykelly; Peach; MeeknMing
Your best best is to find the sniper threads all in one location.

Maybe peach or meeknming can show you where they are. There are many threads or do a FR search Home Depo False Witness Arrest. The guy's name is Mitchell Dowdy I believe.

Freeper needs info about the false witness. Can you help me out re: links? Thanks, FV

548 posted on 10/22/2002 7:53:48 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: nicmarlo
Thanks for the ping about the schoolchildren. I really shouldn't be FReeping today, so I'll try to stay away from my keyboard as much as possible.

I heard several conflicting "expert opinions" about what a good shot he/they would or wouldn't have to be. I'm no expert, so I'm not sure who to believe.

However, I've made up my mind that we have 2 or more rogue Rambos on our hands. Not because of the shooting expertise, but because of the way they've been able to escape each and every time, even today, and even knowing the drones are up there.

I doubt anybody without military training (that includes terrorist groups and militia) would be able to do it for so long. I keep an open mind as to the perps religion, race, color skin or agenda is, but it looks more and more like they work for or are hired by some organized terrorist group (islamic, leftist, homegrown, neo-nazi or whatever).

As for the ransom, if true, it would just confirm my suspicion. They're obviously confident they can get away with it. How could they possibly think that unless they're part of a network? They'd have to be NUTS, and as of today, I don't believe anybody just plain nuts could've done what they've done.

549 posted on 10/22/2002 7:53:53 AM PDT by Elenya
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I was watching Ch 7 (ABC affiliate WJLA) this morning... they said, "We have been asked not to disclose the location of any of the roadblocks."

flipped to channel 9 (CBS / WUSA)... "Cell phone callers are reporting roadblocks at various locations, including..." (they name some locations)... While showing the roadblock on the Am Leg Bridge!!!

WUSA is the PITTS!

550 posted on 10/22/2002 7:54:04 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer
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To: HiJinx
"when we were in among the trees, the three of us often had conflicting opinions about the direction from which any one shot was coming. "

Which is always true, but the more shoots you hear, the better the chance is that you can nail it down as to where it is coming from.

551 posted on 10/22/2002 7:55:28 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: ChasingFletch
"Why are so many here jumping to the conclusion that the guy supposedly asking for the money is the shooter?"

That is my thinking too, especially considering that something was said yesterday to the effect of someone else trying to cash in on what the sniper is doing. Also, it is an absolute certainty that if he tried to collect money he would be caught. This guy or these guys are not that stupid. It may just be part of a game too, that just makes it more intriguing or more of an adventure to him. He obviously is getting charged up from following the media coverage.

552 posted on 10/22/2002 7:55:38 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Dark Knight
Are you around? Do you know Moose or of him? What info can you give us about him?
553 posted on 10/22/2002 7:56:06 AM PDT by GummyIII
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To: Eva
That's a possiblity. It could be a Black Muslim who is an Al-Qada sympathizer. It also could be a Joseph Paul Franklin type. I'm not sure.
554 posted on 10/22/2002 7:56:15 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: areafiftyone
I'm no mathematician, but given the number of shootings, just how much time would be necessary to adequately scout the "fire zones" and the egress paths.

It would seem that the higher the number of shootings goes would mitigate against it being a single shooter because of the time required for the scouting (especially for egress in the face of a highly-prepared response).

This would seem to be indicative of a group of individuals who are coordinating their activities.

555 posted on 10/22/2002 7:56:24 AM PDT by twntaipan
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To: js1138
I think any company in the area that has not accounted for its employees whereabouts during the shootings -- not to mention its trucks -- is borderline criminal.

Well, the largest employer in the area is a company known as *The Federal Government* and they do have a great many interagency motor pool white vans. Their corrupt CEO is a fella named *George Bush.* You take him into custody- be careful, I hear he's guarded by armed goons- and I'll start checking out the white vans, many of which are stored outside the DC/ Beltway area....


556 posted on 10/22/2002 7:56:30 AM PDT by archy
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To: DoughtyOne
In my quick review of the photos of the first nine victims, it only seem one,prehaps two were white. I hope you're right.

Why? Is it somehow a lesser offense to kill whites? Why are you even bothering to question this? This is the DC area,and it is to be expected that the majority of the victims at random would be non-white because whites are a minority there.

557 posted on 10/22/2002 7:57:00 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: contessa machiaveli
When faced with multiple explainations, the simplest one is usually the right one.

Or,

Don't needlessly multiply entities. - A senario requiring collusion of the FBI, KGB, men in black hats, the Queen of England and Harvy the doughnut man is probably wrong.
558 posted on 10/22/2002 7:57:15 AM PDT by null and void
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
With all due respect, you have said nothing that we haven't all heard a hundred times from the talking heads.

With all due respect, the talking heads have said so much, that you could reply to just about every post in these sniper threads with a "already heard it from the talking heads" reply. Why waste your time?

Why don't you enlighten us and tell us something the many talking heads haven't?

559 posted on 10/22/2002 7:57:28 AM PDT by Chris_Patrick
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To: Gorilla44
Lets set them off and have people running for cover..mass panic in the streets..I just sit and read all the theories which I must assume is a natural display of helplessness and the NEED to be Superman and solve" the mysteries of these horrific crimes against humanity. I think to myself..the madmen go home at night to whatever cold rock they live under, turn on TV and get bored with the idiocy ..and then turn on their Puter and read their coverage..chatrooms,messageboards. Instead of beating down the Authorities with Name calling..lets face it they are doing something no matter how little you might think it is..and you(you genetically used) are writing on a message board.(and you just happed to be the name I picked to make my useless response ;)) My opinion.
560 posted on 10/22/2002 7:57:39 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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