How Nazis are like the *Radical* Left Wing

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[John Lenin]

Very good description of how the Nazi's were more left wing than right wing.

[Texas_Jarhead]

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[Maedhros]

The political spectrum is really a circle; extremists on both ends blur together.

[JPJones]

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[John Lenin]

This article is scary because the lefty's are using the same agenda that Hitler used. Gun control, the public skools, turning in parents ? Could a civil war be far behind unless we stop these morons in their tracks ?

[agitator]

What this article fails to point out adequately, is that the average Nazi was your neighbor who would turn you in for listening to the wrong radio station, the guy behind the counter at the postoffice who kept tabs on you, the petty cog in a giant, machine of evil.

[tiamat]

Well, actually the Nazis WERE Leftists!
After all, they were the "National SOCIALIST Party"!
I don't have my source to hand , but I have heard it said that Hitler was sometimes a vegitarian and dabbled in the occult, and eventually wanted to phase out christianity! Anyone out there back this up casually?
Sound familiar?
I think Hillary wuld have fit right in with that lot!
Something to ruminate on the next time we get called names! :-)

Tia

[TheLion]

Hitler used whatever means possible to obtain power. The lame brain socialists played right into his schemes. He basically used them. This is what is currently wrong with the democrats/liberal/socialists in America; they just don't get it, and will allow all kinds of atrocities to befall us. Most of the people slaughtered in the history of the world have been slaughtered in this century; directly derived from the liberal/socialist mindset.....guess they don't teach that in school!

[John Lenin]

Then the Reichstag (government building) was blown up and Hitler ram-rodded an "Emergency Anti-Terrorist Act" through Parliament that gave the Gestapo extraordinary powers. The leader then declared that for the well-being of the German people, all private firearms were to be confiscated by the Gestapo and the Wermotten (federal law enforcement and military). German citizens who refused to surrender their guns when the "jack-boots" (Gestapo) came calling, were murdered in their homes. By the way, the Gestapo were the federal marshals' service of the Third Reich. The S.W.A.T. team was invented and perfected by the Gestapo to break into the homes of the enemies of the German people

This paragraph should be in Neon lights every time a politician talks about registring guns and gun control laws.

[Brad’s Gramma]

BTTT

[AlaskaErik]

I believe the fiction of Nazism being right wing is the creation of the left wingers. After all, how can you vilify one totalitarian regime without tainting the Stalinist regime so cherished by the left wingers of the era? Easy! Make Nazis right wing, which not only deflects criticism from the Communists, but also gives the impression that they are linked to our own conservative cause. How simplistically brilliant, but how wrong. Both Nazism and communism were brutal totalitarian regimes. The fact that the state didn't have title to property matters not one whit. The Nazis controlled industry as completely as did the communists. There is virtually no difference between the two.

[Slyfox]

[John Lenin]

bttt
LOL

[bonesmccoy]

The Democrats... do you really trust this party with the future of your family???

Chamberlain and Hitler

Democrats and Iraq
... Isn't it amazing how history repeats itself?

[John Lenin]

Click on the related link at the bottom of the article. Here's a tidbit, sound familiar ?

But what, in Heaven's name, does any of this have to do with "right-wing" theory? By "right wing," the media can mean one of these killer Nazi thugs, or they can mean someone who believes in private property, free enterprise, and bourgeois social norms. The blurring of the difference -- they are really polar opposites -- is wildly dishonest but obviously purposeful.

Of course, the media are free to define terms however they like, but the fact is that the ideological origins of Nazism are with the left. The term Nazi itself is short for the National Socialist German Workers Party. Nazism was fashioned as a totalitarian nationalist alternative to the totalitarian international socialism of the Lenin model. But national or international, the relevant word is socialist, which should be the first tip-off to Nazism's leftist origins.

It was no accident that the Nazi flag was a red banner; it was taken from the flag of socialism. As Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn showed in his book, "Leftism" (1974 and 1990), Hitler and all his top lieutenants were hard-core socialists who hated everything about the old Europe, including small states, the monarchs, the Church, the landed aristocracy, peace, and the free economy of the 19th century. They imagined themselves running a centralized, protectionist, and statist Germany under the executive-branch "leadership principle." They talked constantly of a proletarian revolution that would destroy the bourgeois class.

Furthermore, as Robert Proctor showed in "Racial Hygiene: Medicine Under the Nazis" (1988), the Nazis were health fanatics who banned cigarette smoking, promoted vegetarianism and organic gardening, engaged in abortion and euthanasia, frowned on all capitalist excess, and even promoted animal rights. They were environmentalists who locked up land from development to promote paganism.

[KC_Conspirator]

I don't have my source to hand , but I have heard it said that Hitler was sometimes a vegitarian and dabbled in the occult, and eventually wanted to phase out christianity!

Hitler was not only a vegetarian, but a strict nonsmoker as well. Even though the Nazi's discouraged smoking, their troops in the field were encouraged to take meth.

[Commie Basher]

There was an excellent article in the Nov 2001 issue of Liberty magazine on the history and philosophy of Fascism.

Stalin, Hitler, FDR, modern liberal, etc. are not varients of fascists. Rather, Fascism is a variant of socialism. It's own seperate thing (and FWIW, much less murderous than Naziism or Bolshevism).

Fascism was a form of socialism that ruled Italy between 1922-43. Mussolini was a former officer of the Italian Socialist Party, who lost an internal power struggle and so started his own party. Unlike the German Nazis, the Fascists were not anti-Semetic, and had Jewish officers as late as 1938, when Mussolini succumbed to pressure from Hitler and removed them.

Fascism was a minor footnote to world history, ending in 1943. But the Left has re-defined "fascism" as any socialist movement that turns ugly, so as to define away Hitler, Stalin, etc.

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro -- and modern academics -- are not "really fascists." They are "really socialists" (Mussolini being just one varient).

[Z in Oregon]

Very well drawn parallel!

[sweetliberty]

Excellent and useful reference post. Thanks.

[Z in Oregon]

Fuhrer Gephardt, Fuhrer Hillary?