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Chief Moose Asks Sniper to Call Them Back - Beltway Sniper left a note at Restaurant last night!
FOX News Channel | October 20, 2002 | FOX News Channel

Posted on 10/20/2002 4:10:41 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP

Chief Moose Asks Sniper to Call Them Back
Beltway Sniper attempted contact last night !

Very short press conference where he simply states that the Beltway Sniper attempted contact and Chief Moose requested that he call them back.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: beltwaysniper; moose
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To: Dante3
You've got a good point there, I wonder where ole Lonnie is these days?
981 posted on 10/21/2002 2:38:55 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: PoisedWoman
That is a new twist on the story.

I remember the Feds (I think it was) came in to ELFs main information office and took computers ect.

This was in Eugene Oregon and was over a year ago if my memory serves me correct.

The two head haunchos at Elf resigned and it seems the group has not been very active. Lack of interest and recruietments.

Their website has not been updated for sometime. I check now and then.

So I really do not know that they are that active other tree sitting.
982 posted on 10/21/2002 3:15:02 AM PDT by oceanperch
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To: PoisedWoman
Here is their website addy:


In Defense of All Life - "You cannot control what is wild"
Address:http://www.earthliberationfront.com/main.shtml

983 posted on 10/21/2002 3:20:56 AM PDT by oceanperch
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To: aristeides
Nobody addresses a policeman as "Policeman" in English either.

...except perhaps a child.

984 posted on 10/21/2002 4:06:36 AM PDT by Indie
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To: aculeus
(I sure hope Chief Moose didn't screw up the message.)

Moose is in Montgomery County, Maryland – 90 miles from Ashland, VA. Why is he running this phone thing?

985 posted on 10/21/2002 4:07:29 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: PoisedWoman
"Someone with tarot deck who shoots are people at gas stations, Home Depot and restaurant seems to me to be a eco-terrorist who is protesting gas guzzlers, wood used for building and people who eat beef."

Interesting theory, really...but trying to make it fit all the shootings...what would an eco-terrorist have against people at a CRAFTS store, and then there is the boy who was shot in front of his school....

986 posted on 10/21/2002 4:11:53 AM PDT by SunnyUsa
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To: Eva
It IS obvious there is more than one person. Perhaps they both shoot. Otherwise what is to keep #2, et al from snitching out the real shooter for 500K and a light sentence? Something is holding these guys together. And there is only one thing radical enough....Islam.
987 posted on 10/21/2002 4:14:30 AM PDT by Indie
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To: Vermont Lt
The best example of the sound can be found in the movie "We Were Soldiers" with Mel Gibson. Exact. Rent it and be impressed. Besides it's a darn good movie.
988 posted on 10/21/2002 4:23:35 AM PDT by Indie
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To: SunnyUsa
MSNBC-----> The message contained significant text and was found in woods behind the restaurant, the Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Monday, quoting law enforcement sources it did not name. The report also said police have found more than one tarot card during the investigation.
“This could be a very difficult time we are about to go through,” an investigator told NBC’s David Bloom at the scene of the shooting, without elaborating.

THIS is spooky.

989 posted on 10/21/2002 4:36:09 AM PDT by Indie
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To: eno_
I reiterate (say again for those of you in Reolindo) calls can be bounced and yes they will pin register however, to someone with even simple hacker skills calls can be routed with dead ends. They ping to CO's and simply get lost.

Either way, I hope they catch this (these) folks soon.

I have my doubts though if the FBI is now involved.

990 posted on 10/21/2002 4:44:10 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: Indie
I disagree that there is more than one shooter. It appears to me that the sniper acts alone, is highly trained, proficient (although not in the Lon Horiuichi category), disciplined, intelligent, and dedicated. He neither wants nor needs anyone else.

"He travels fastest who travels alone." Plus, partners can snitch. Why would he need a partner? To do what? He can do it all himself. After all, he is God.

The evidence suggests to me that our sniper is a home grown terrorist who knows the lay of the land like the back of his hand, has been highly trained by either the military or law enforcement or both, knows police procedures and how to thwart them, and has a grudge against Chief Moose and/or his department. His job (assuming he has one) allows him to be out and about scoping out new cites and carrying out shootings without arousing attention. He is not Middle Eastern in appearance, and could easily blend in anywhere.

Sometimes he walks, sometime he drives. I dougbt that he has a white van. He uses a single shot from a single weapon. The single shot allows him to make a quick getaway. He does not really care if the victim lives or not, and a second shot would allow the direction of the shooter to become known. He may be proud of his skill using one shot, but practicalities, not ego, drive his one shot rule. He uses a single weapon so that it can be more easily shed when the time comes.

His weapon is either a deconstructable rifle or a rifle calibre pistol. Within seconds after the shooting, he is walking down the street toward his car carrying a backpack, duffle bag, briefcase, etc., totally escaping suspicion from anyone who is looking for a guy who has just used a gun to shoot someone.

Putting this all together, my vote is for a current or former, presumably disgruntled LEO with an unknown agenda or something to prove. He is not a "psycho" or a "nut," unless you are going to take the position that all murderes are by definition a psychotic nut.

We will now more about his motives when we know more about him. It could be something so petty as being passed over for promotion or being told he didn't make the grade for an elite team. He is using the 911 tragedy as cover. He is a terrorist, but his terror is a means to an end, not the end itself. I can only speculate about what that end might be, but his unlitmate objective may not be that important, except only to him.

This is the best explanation that I have been able to come to given the known facts and reasonable inferences and interpretations thereof.
991 posted on 10/21/2002 4:59:43 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: aculeus
Another Freeper suggested that Moose is merely a figurehead, that the FBI is calling the shots, telling him what to say ... and not to say. I think that Freeper is correct.

Someone on FNC said that this was indeed the case. The FBI bungled the anthrax case so badly that they did not want to be out front and center. So they send the Moose to do that for them while they run the investigation behind the scene.

992 posted on 10/21/2002 5:40:32 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Bellflower
He probably rented a storage area big enough for his vehicle somewhere near by ..

________________________

aka mosque

993 posted on 10/21/2002 6:10:33 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: Lion's Cub
I agree,probably release my friend Zach or else
994 posted on 10/21/2002 6:19:42 AM PDT by dagnabit
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To: TexKat
I wonder if the sniper ate dinner at the Ponderosa while scoping out his next victim.

Hmmm, security cameras, I wonder?

995 posted on 10/21/2002 6:27:54 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: bimbo
He doesn't have to run it-he was chosen head of the task force. But I wonder if the sniper(s) know him? maybe in Oregon-he keeps saying things about these acts are designed to hurt our nation-that makes me think it is terrorism and somehow Moose is the conduit for communication.
996 posted on 10/21/2002 6:28:23 AM PDT by dagnabit
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To: spicy5772
The media called it a "cryptic" message. That means that there will be a way of communicating that only the Chief and the Sniper can figure out.

You really believe that?

Maybe it simply that Moose can't put a sentence together?

997 posted on 10/21/2002 6:30:52 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
Maybe it simply that Moose can't put a sentence together?

Maybe it's simply that Moose can't put a sentence together?

998 posted on 10/21/2002 6:34:12 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Jeff Gordon
And that the rest of the texyt indicated a threat to step up the violence
999 posted on 10/21/2002 6:36:23 AM PDT by dagnabit
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To: MeeknMing
Anybody seeing this? They've arrested somebody in a white van in VA near a phone booth.
1,000 posted on 10/21/2002 6:47:55 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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