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1 posted on 10/20/2002 2:50:24 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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2 posted on 10/20/2002 2:50:53 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
Thanks for the post.

It comes home to me.
I am from a broken home and I swore to God I would never let that happen to my children. Unfortunately, I was only a part of the equation.
In the end we worked out our own special deal. It was difficult for a long time. Now however it is but a memory. We are all older and wiser.
The kids are grown, and nobody hates anybody.
3 posted on 10/20/2002 2:55:44 PM PDT by Radix
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Hi Roger. Thanks for posting this. I didn't know you were a freeper, too.

"Jill" from soc.men
10 posted on 10/20/2002 8:17:25 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: RogerFGay
How can a system so badly flawed be fixed?

How bout NOT GETTING DIVORCED - at least not until the kids are grown up?

11 posted on 10/20/2002 8:20:02 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: RogerFGay
It's time to put a stop to so-called "child support". It is the biggest welfare scam on the face of the earth. Let the custodial parent support his or her children.
12 posted on 10/20/2002 8:21:40 PM PDT by ChicagahAl
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Many here have heard my story: I divorced a DIAGNOSED psychopath woman with a history of mental illness and child abuse.

The COURTS OWN DOCTOR recommended I be given SOLE custody and that their mother not even be allowed overnight visitation until she received mental health care.

Then she filed FALSE CHARGES of assault, at a time when I proved I was not even at home. She was arrested for filing false charges. amd the prosecutor refused to pursue her.

The kids were temporarily placed with me during a TWO YEAR trial during which one of my girls was HOSPITALIZED FOR NEGLECT after a visitation at their mothers' house...

She stole over $100,000 of household income, which forced me to attempt to file Chapter 13 bankruptcy, to save almost a million bucks in real estate properties. (also during the divorce and trial)

4 of her attorneys asked the court to be allowed to withdraw from the case because of her lying and failure to comply with court orders (also during the custody trial)

End result: New York State Supreme Court Judge John O'Donnell took them away from me and granted sole custody back to their mother and took them out of my home.

He also ordered me to pay $1800 a month child support, which wiped out the million in property..

The children's financial future is gone, they are abused in her home, and CPS and the new york state courst did ALLOWED it to happen.

New York State is a $hithole for fathers... move out of the state before you file for divorce, no matter how unfit their mother is.

Oh, and every time I talk about this I get some stupid feminists say "oh yeah but what did YOU do?"
Answer: NOTHING- There was not ONE SUBSTANTIALTED ALLEGATION against me. Period. And in fact many of her allegations were proven to be fabrications against me INCLUDING child abuse (also during the trial)

13 posted on 10/20/2002 8:38:36 PM PDT by Mr. K
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Maybe we need a 'Defense of Marriage' act to repeal easy divorce.
17 posted on 10/21/2002 12:09:36 AM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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Hey, Roger, how about posting the whole article. The prohibition was only against articles from the LAT and WP.

22 posted on 10/21/2002 1:43:06 AM PDT by William Terrell
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To: RogerFGay
I was a divorced dad, and let me tell you...the article's right on the money. "MONEY" being the key word. How 'bout "walkaway wives" to go with the "deadbeat dads?"
39 posted on 10/21/2002 1:19:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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How about a reproduction tax, a marriage tax, and a divorce tax.

1) Marriage tax raises bar for marriage and cuts down on frivolous unions. Money is held in trust past child-rearing years and returned to the couple past child-bearing years if still married. If divorced, money eschews to the State for Social services to support state obligations related to divorce. (higher crime, healthcare, etc.)

2) Reproduction tax. Tax is paid upon birth of child. Held in trust. If divorced before child is age of majority, money is placed in trust for child you screwed!

3) Divorce Tax -- to be paid in equal parts to the state and the child in trust. States can enact comparative fault statute that woud allow assignment of fault for divorce, thus apportioning the rate of tax to be paid by each party.

Since morals and shame no longer dictate how adults conduct themselves in marriage, the State might as well regulate that too. As it is now, the state is left holding the bag when children of divorce raise the cost on society.

How about 5k to get married, 1K for each child, and 10K to get divorced. Hardship waivers in the form of community service would be available for those that cannot pay.

Of course, we could just stop rushing into marriage. And, we could stop glorifying and accepting divorce without stigmitizing it. And, we could get rid of no-fault divorce raise the cost and barriers to divorce. (Which would likely cut down on frivilous marriages).

47 posted on 10/21/2002 3:51:34 PM PDT by Iron Eagle
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78 posted on 10/22/2002 2:02:48 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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86 posted on 10/23/2002 8:10:50 AM PDT by Red Jones
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