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Drivers of White Vans are being treated as criminals
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Posted on 10/20/2002 7:48:19 AM PDT by SamAdams76

The photos above currently on the Drudge site concern me. I followed the link and the article clearly stated that nobody was arrested last night.

Why then, do we have drivers of white vans, innocent civilians, evidently being pulled out vans at gunpoint and treated like dangerous criminals? One photo shows a man on the ground, evidently in handcuffs, with police officers standing over him as though they have just captured Whitey Bulger. When I first saw the photo, I figured the man was obviously a wanted criminal that police just so happened to come across during their search. But since there were no arrests last night, this man was obviously released and was no criminal after all.

The other photo shows a man by another white van with his hands in the air and a police officer has a gun drawn on him. Again, this was evidently just another innocent civilian who had the misfortune to be driving a white van on I-95 last night.

Now I understand the need for these roadblocks and for the police to be very thorough in their search for the sniper(s). But I cannot see the point of innocent people dragged out of their vehicles at gunpoint with no pretext other than the fact that they happen to be driving a white van.

Now maybe somebody here has an explanation why these two individuals were treated like criminals. Maybe they tried to evade the police or maybe they were driving stolen vans. But again, there were no arrests made last night. So what is the deal with our citizens being treated like Jesse James just for driving a white van?


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To: Iron Eagle
It's easy to talk big when you're not in the firing zone, isn't it?

And I'll come up there and do the court reporting for you, free of charge. Nobody feels violated there.

Heck, my husband travels to Maryland AND northern Virginia. Think I'm worried?

521 posted on 10/20/2002 4:26:26 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: bvw
And the wholesale white van arrests -- an arrest, meaning in the French it cimes from "a stopping" --

Well the French also have a saying that goes something like this:

If the van can't do ze time, it shouldn't do ze crime.

522 posted on 10/20/2002 4:26:58 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: HairOfTheDog
We can tell you are mad, but we can't be sure what at, or why.      I didn't follow your postings closely enough to know what your "scrupples" are...   It is inappropriate and low rent to call an individual names, and it is just as wrong to falsely accuse someone of such.
523 posted on 10/20/2002 4:29:27 PM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: HairOfTheDog
Step out of the car... lay down with your arms out" Horrifying place to be for those citizens,

Yes, it is, and completely wrong and illegal!

but also horrifying is the real potential for the cop

Nature of the job. Can't take the heat??

524 posted on 10/20/2002 4:34:18 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: GirlShortstop
"So if I understand you, FR should in essence be shut down within the next few days because discussion and debate of news is taboo? btw, a good thing to remember is graphics off if you are bandwidth-challenged...the icons are all of 2.5kb!"

No, I said no such thing. This whole thread started because someone posted a picture captioned "Drivers of White Vans Being Treated as Criminals" or something similar.

Those of us who didn't see the picure as an example of that, said so, but speaking for myself, I didn't insinuate that you and others who held differing opinions, were personified by little animated graphics.

Discussion here is one thing, insinuation by people like yourself lacking facts, is another. You have no right to ridicule people for their beliefs any more than they do you for yours. My point being, if you don't have the facts before you go poking at others for a differing point of view, get the facts! Discussion and personal insinuation are different words. Look it up.

As for being "bandwith challenged" this forum is owned and operated privately and people contribute if they can to keep it operational. When you post anything, it uses bandwith on a server that doesn't belong to you or me and alot of people use it for a million different reasons. Consideration and a co-operative spirit rule here, for those reasons and a million more. This forum hasn't ever been shut down for confrontational discussions, but most of us are aware this forum is here thanks to the Robinson family and it's a privilege to use it, not a right!

525 posted on 10/20/2002 4:38:26 PM PDT by soozla
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To: ladyinred
"I actually know how to mark a ballot!"

And that's all anyone should expect from you, LIR.
After all, you are blonde!

526 posted on 10/20/2002 4:38:26 PM PDT by COB1
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To: Iron Eagle
We should approach every vehicle after such atrocity with the same aggressiveness and suspect or none at all. The actual perp/s have us looking for a white workin man's van while he/they could be in a purple 4 door sedan. That's the point...and now you know.
527 posted on 10/20/2002 4:41:07 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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To: Iron Eagle
Thank you Iron Eagle.
528 posted on 10/20/2002 4:41:36 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: COB1
Oh thank You Cobby dear! I knew you'd understand!:-)
529 posted on 10/20/2002 4:42:48 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: GirlShortstop
Do you just give out that advice and not follow it yourself?
530 posted on 10/20/2002 4:43:45 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
You owe Ladyinred an apology, but I doubt very much you have the class to see that.

Thank you Scott. I appreciate it very much.

531 posted on 10/20/2002 4:45:14 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: soozla
That was a good attempt at a response for a post that doesn't really *mean* anything. I myself didn't understand it.
532 posted on 10/20/2002 4:45:31 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Oztrich Boy
Then you have the comfort of knowing that the police are already entitled to shoot you

What was the ultimate outcome in that case?

533 posted on 10/20/2002 4:46:25 PM PDT by Korth
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To: SamAdams76; SLB; Travis McGee; wardaddy; piasa; CARepubGal; harpseal; Fred Mertz; patton; pocat; ...
White vans owners ??? Ya should try being a gun owner these days.....:o)

Stay Safe Sam !!

534 posted on 10/20/2002 4:47:21 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: HairOfTheDog
Perhaps we should some kind of a "Chicks who support the police" ping list to question some of these knee-jerk cop bashers!

Sign me up on it!

535 posted on 10/20/2002 4:47:32 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Iron Eagle
I think you've hit on the problem. As a matter of fact, I was just thinking the same thing.

These aren't conservatives, they are anarchists.

BTW, don't let it bother you, it's half the fun of FR. We've always had them, right from the very beginning. Most of the time you just skim past their posts, but occasionally they're fun to engage, if only for the amusement factor.

536 posted on 10/20/2002 4:48:31 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Howlin
HAHAHA...thanks, oh well, tomorrow's another day and I've got alot of laundry to fold!!!!!!
537 posted on 10/20/2002 4:48:39 PM PDT by soozla
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To: PatrioticAmerican; ladyinred; chadsworth; Howlin
"but you don't care to have the same police actions against you during hooker raids? "

One question for you, PA:

What in the sam hell have hooker raids got to do with trying to catch this sniper?

538 posted on 10/20/2002 4:49:28 PM PDT by COB1
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To: southern rock
Yes, it is, and completely wrong and illegal!

No it isn't.

Nature of the job. Can't take the heat??

You know... cops are kindof expensive to replace all the time, and their families love them. I don't mind them trying not to get shot. There is no value in them "taking the heat".

539 posted on 10/20/2002 4:49:32 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ladyinred
Needs a better name.... ;~D
540 posted on 10/20/2002 4:50:28 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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