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Hanover County Shooting [Ashland, Virginia- North of Richmond]

Posted on 10/19/2002 6:14:56 PM PDT by William McKinley

Just reported. Took place outside of a Ponderosa Steakhouse. Not sure if it is related or not at this time. Police have shut down parts of I-95.


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To: All
I thought this would be a good post for anyone in the MD/DC area:

Very Important: Safety Tips for Sniper Attacks
I got this forwarded to me from someone in my department at work. I feel it's important enough to post completely on here, as most people who read this are in Montgomery County. Both of you.

If anyone knows how I can put up the .gifs without having a server to upload them to, there are a couple of pictures in here as well.

Hello everyone,

As you may already know I [no, not me :p] have been a SWAT Sniper for about 3 years. My specialty is Counter Sniper for Presidential and dignitary protection. What this basically means is, I am posted at certain locations looking for a sniper/assassin. Once a threat is detected, I am charged in countering his/her ability to attack by early detection and neutralizing (killing) him/her.

Now on to business…
This Sniper killing people in the DC Metro area is a skilled sharpshooter and very calculated. Unfortunately he appears very disturbed and has just left a calling card stating he was God. What that probably means is he may escalate the matter by increasing the rate of killing in each attack because he acknowledges the police’s hot pursuit. This sniper knows it’s a matter of time before he is discovered. He thinks he is superior to everyone, but knows eventually he will be caught. He is playing a very sick game that he feels he is winning. He will probably want to sensationalize his confrontations with the police and eventually stop running and have a standoff. The police may be his future targets.

It is very important that you adjust your regular routine because this is a very deadly individual. I am going to give you my personal/professional advice on the matter.

1. 1st wave of attacks were concentrated in an area the suspect was very familiar with.
2. It appears these initial attacks were closer, probably less than 100 yards away. Witnesses were hearing loud cracks.
3. He definitely is showing off. He is trying to maintain 100 %, one shot for one kill. (Sniper’s creed).
4. He is probably not shooting the first person that appears. He is looking for the highest probable kill. This encompasses distance, position, and movement of the individual and excludes physical barriers (vehicles, tress, columns, etc).
5. He is shooting from areas adjacent to major roadways, thoroughfares, highways, etc. (quick egress). First group was within a couple of miles from beltway. Child shot in Bowie was a block away from the US 50 on the 197.
6. He went up to northern Virginia (70 miles away) to throw police off his trail (diversion, used by snipers for stalking targets and eluding enemy).
7. He is making this to be a giant ‘Stalk’ around the Metro area. It is a game now. He wants them to come after him (like he is in his own war against the enemy).
8. He is probably using any foliage (tree line, woods, bushes) that is around the malls, shopping center, gas stations, and parking lots.
9. He is able to shoot accurately out to 500 yards (5 football fields) with or without a scope (depends on individual’s abilities).
10. The farther out he/she is, the more difficult of course it is to detect or pinpoint location. This aids in egress as well. (He knows this).

My advice to you all is to consider the following.

* Avoid unnecessary errands.
* Bring someone along.
* Do not stand outside your vehicle grabbing things out the car.
* If you go to the store, put items in back seat of car (nothing in trunk) so that you can grab items and exit quickly.
* When slowing down or at a stop, keep windows closed (glass deflects bullets, he knows this and he is not shooting through glass anymore).
* Never walk straight to a door more than 20 feet away. Zig zag and walk at angels. The shooter is setting up on doorways/entrances and waiting for victims to line up on entrance. The hardest shot for a sniper is a target traversing laterally to his/her position.
* Walk between cars, use them for protection, and NEVER walk in a straight line to a doorway. Park as close as possible.
* ·Be mindful of wooded areas and any bushes around establishment. More than likely surrounding areas. Look for reflections (glare of the scope or weapon).
* Use drive-thru at fast food
* Look around and make it obvious (looking over your shoulder in the distant) he may hesitate if they think someone notices him. Point to what you are looking at as well. You want to telegraph yourself to others and get them involved.
* Keep clear of abandoned vehicles, but concern yourself with them. He is probably parking along roads and walking to his shooting position.
* You are probably safer inside the DC area only because congestion will prevent him an easy egress for the sniper. So if there is a toss up for a store then pick the inner city (not the outer boundaries).

The main thing is being careful. Everyone is at risk even the police. He is able to pick the time and place so he has the overall advantage over the police.
posted by Beatriz Woods 2:52 PM

2,181 posted on 10/19/2002 10:37:02 PM PDT by md2576
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To: jwalsh07
You give me a ridiculous question I give you a ridiculous answer.
2,182 posted on 10/19/2002 10:37:05 PM PDT by College Repub
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To: SwordofTruth
See #2031. You couldn't make this stuff up fast enough.
2,184 posted on 10/19/2002 10:37:39 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution
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To: Arkinsaw
YOU leave me alone. I love the Constitution, just NOT some peoples ideas about it ad nauseum. I mean you just go on and on saying the same things, every thread, everyday. NOW, goodnight.
2,185 posted on 10/19/2002 10:37:43 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: SwordofTruth
Sorry about my last comment. Mistakes happen to the best of us, no need to feel overly embarrassed. :>)

Okay. :) Hey, I deserved it!

This sniper may or may not be a AQ agent, but I'm feel confident this form of terrorism will be used by them in the future regardless of who is doing it now.

I said this on another thread - if it's not AQ, they're certainly learning a lot from it.

2,186 posted on 10/19/2002 10:37:44 PM PDT by edayna
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To: blastbaby
I hope there is solid police work that is being held in confidence, but I suspect they aren't even doing basic crime scene management.

To this point, law enforcement involvement in the incidents has been a strong negative, unfortunately. They're broadcasting their lack of capacity loud and clear to the terrorists.
2,187 posted on 10/19/2002 10:37:45 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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To: home educate
And so, rounding up innocent Muslims is ok?

YES!!

Even if they are American citizens?

YES!! They should never have been allowed to set foot in a Christian country in the first place.

Sweet Jesus, I am glad your ilk will never be in charge of this great country.

2,188 posted on 10/19/2002 10:37:56 PM PDT by Lejes Rimul
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To: hole_n_one
Elton John just said they are waiting for the sun to come up for more illumination.......
2,189 posted on 10/19/2002 10:38:03 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: jwalsh07
Ever hear of Thomas Paine, Common Sense, Age of Reason and Rights of Man?

http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/B/tpaine/paine.htm
2,190 posted on 10/19/2002 10:38:16 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Jimer
I'll take Glooscap for $100, Alex...
2,191 posted on 10/19/2002 10:38:22 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Thumper1960
Can you explain to me why the Founders spent so much time making sure that there was a separation of church and state when you all claim that they were, basically, writing for God?
2,192 posted on 10/19/2002 10:38:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Eva
If you receive this the thread is still alive. Feel better now?
2,193 posted on 10/19/2002 10:38:37 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution
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To: stayout
Nope...it was still a revolution until the ratification in 1789.
2,194 posted on 10/19/2002 10:38:53 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: home educate
And so, rounding up innocent Muslims is ok?

YES!!

Even if they are American citizens?

YES!! They should never have been allowed to set foot in a Christian country in the first place.

Sweet Jesus, I am glad your ilk will never be in charge of this great country.

2,195 posted on 10/19/2002 10:39:23 PM PDT by Lejes Rimul
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To: madison10
Nope, not a white pick up. Let's just say they won't allow this particular model to enter demolition derbys.


Let me at 'em

2,196 posted on 10/19/2002 10:39:39 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Sacajaweau
This weekend, he did not hit until Sunday but it is still relative to Fredericksburg.

Correct me gently if I'm wrong. I'm very tired.

You're wrong, he hit on Saturday night. What he does on Sunday is anybody's guess.

2,197 posted on 10/19/2002 10:39:40 PM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: Howlin
Channeling?

Just as I don't pretend to be one of the Founding Fathers by recognizing and celebrating their monumental works, I don't pretend to be "God-like" because I accept the essence of the Holy Bible.

Who's channeling Jefferson?

2,198 posted on 10/19/2002 10:39:40 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: College Repub
You give me a ridiculous question I give you a ridiculous answer.

What's ridiculous CR is your argument that rights are granted by governments. Any right granted by a government can be taken away by that government. I sincerely hope you're not paying good American greenbacks for the education you're getting.

2,199 posted on 10/19/2002 10:39:51 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: md2576
10-4
2,200 posted on 10/19/2002 10:39:55 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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