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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Wednesday, Oct. 16
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 16, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/16/2002 2:06:53 AM PDT by Peach

To avoid multiple vanity threads regarding any news from press conferences, let's keep a live commentary thread going again today.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; beltway; maryland; shooting; sniper; virginia
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To: Chemist_Geek
I'm rather surprised that a federal employee wasn't a victim earlier.

The first victim, killed in Wheaton Oct. 2, worked for NOAA.

261 posted on 10/16/2002 9:00:32 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
per No. Va. scanner info over the last few days...I will not be more specific than this on open forum...

license plate (exact/full number, not partial) information on Virginia-registered vehicle, did initially go out over police radio on Monday night after most recent shootings.....

....'dark skinned' individual specifically mentioned on police radio....one report was a vehicle with a number of individuals inside (multiple suspects).....

...radio call signs attributable to the 'gold cell' of anti-snipers (a CS counter sniper detachment?) based at Ft. Belvoir, VA was active .

Further, my own eyewitness that police were staked out observing a mosque in a county in Virginia west of the capital. I am not going to volunteer which county, or town, but it is one of the number of mosques in Northern Virginia just outside of the DC area. Either they are monitoring because they expected a connection to the killing, or they are on the look out for anti Arab violence if/when the media finally anounces what people are already picking up on scanners, conservative websites have been theorizing, and now major news outlets are already starting to hint.

(Montgomery County PC Moose's comments about 'painting a whole group of people' was also a definites slip of the tongue.)

it appears that they are trying to catch the guys knowing a good description, but hung up on providing it to the general public to prevent panic or 'hate crimes' which could explode when people find out who the perps are. They cannot keep a lid on this for very long, though....people talk....people's relatives work for local law enforcement, eyewitnesses talk.....police scanners can be heard......

262 posted on 10/16/2002 9:01:18 AM PDT by LiberalsWorstNightmare
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To: Sacajaweau; ET(end tyranny)
Sorry if this has been posted; I haven't finished the thread.

Actually, Linda Franklin at Home Depot was the 5th night time hit and I think the man shot at the gas station the other night (Ken Bridges) was on the phone with his wife, not actually with her. According to someone last night, he was telling her he'd be home soon and she told him to be careful when he was shot.
263 posted on 10/16/2002 9:02:37 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: aristeides
The first victim, killed in Wheaton Oct. 2, worked for NOAA.

I was not aware of that. Thank you.

If the shooters are Al-Qaeda terrorists, though, I doubt that NOAA is high on their list of Evil American Government Agencies...

264 posted on 10/16/2002 9:04:50 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Chemist_Geek
I admit, that was undoubtedly just a random target. That was one of the sniper's (snipers'?) long shots. Monday's shot was close up. Why?
265 posted on 10/16/2002 9:07:01 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: md2576
the German guy...is he the one that was on with Greta last night telling his story; dark hair, heavy accent, smiled alot? Sounds like the same guy. I found him very strange and very questionable. Possibly seeking his 15 minutes?

Just me maybe. I tend to be much more of a skeptic these days.
266 posted on 10/16/2002 9:08:10 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: Chemist_Geek
Thought there was supposed to be a press conference at noon.

Our local news is giving us "nothing".

Sac

267 posted on 10/16/2002 9:08:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: LiberalsWorstNightmare
Very interesting information, thanks.
268 posted on 10/16/2002 9:08:24 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Skywalk
I posted yesterday that a psycologist of some specialty was asked about the advice to "go on with your daily lives". His exact words were, "It's BULLCRAP".
269 posted on 10/16/2002 9:12:20 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: aristeides
I admit, that was undoubtedly just a random target. That was one of the sniper's (snipers'?) long shots. Monday's shot was close up. Why?

My hypothesis is, whether or not the shooters are Al-Qaeda, that Monday's attack could have been a "rush job" in response to the media reports of the arrest of the former Marine.

The alternative hypothesis is that the shooter wanted to get positive visual ID on this woman. That cannot be discounted. We will likely never know what she was working on specifically, and that information is crucial to concluding whether or not she was an intentional target or one of opportunity.

270 posted on 10/16/2002 9:14:19 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Sacajaweau

Thought there was supposed to be a press conference at noon.

Our local news is giving us "nothing".

I don't know; I'm waiting for a reaction to finish so I'm in the Cube Zone... (smile)

271 posted on 10/16/2002 9:15:42 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Sacajaweau
Conference on WBAL radio. Moose et al (aka the "B" team) are elsewhere. Some gal is putting the press in their place. Well spoken, but is not revealing anything new.
272 posted on 10/16/2002 9:15:56 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: aristeides
Don't know if you've gotten an answer or link yet - I know Dog has info on this.
273 posted on 10/16/2002 9:16:16 AM PDT by Peach
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To: aristeides
That was one of the sniper's (snipers'?) long shots. Monday's shot was close up. Why?

According to her family, her job was to analyze intelligence related to anti-terrorism...could this have been more of an execution than a "random" murder? Did her job involve looking at "suspicious" websites? You can find all kinds of things on the internet these days. For instance, I was able to identify the first and last name of a U.S. government employee who landed on my company's website a while back because our web stats page identified his server hit as "firstinitial.lastname.division.agency.gov". Other non-government visitors to the site are merely identified by their ISP's server name and some fairly anonymous numbers, etc. (anonymous at least for me--I'm not real technical on this stuff at all, but I do know that even someone with basic knowledge like me was able to identify that one government employee's hit because of the way it registered in our stats).

274 posted on 10/16/2002 9:16:34 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: ThinkingMan
"It seems amazing that no one in the area has seen anything at their neighbors house."

I was thinking an employer must have suspicions, especially if the guy or guys are using a company vehicle. Unless of course, the boss is involved.

Could be a totally screwy thought. Maybe they just decided to buy a van with a ladder rack.
275 posted on 10/16/2002 9:16:40 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: Lil'freeper
What A COINCIDENCE that they're finding a way to undermine the eyewitnesses AND aren't releasing a composite sketch?!!?
277 posted on 10/16/2002 9:18:27 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Lil'freeper
She is repeatedly saying "don't limit this" to one person, one description, one vehicle. Keep your mind open.
278 posted on 10/16/2002 9:19:17 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
She says distance and darkness makes eyewitness reports somewhat unreliable, hence no sketch. Too much disparity for a sketch. Not ruling terrorism. She keeps saying keep minds open, but refers to the sniper(s) as an individual.
279 posted on 10/16/2002 9:20:32 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Motherbear
We now have our proof it's TERRORIST....

I can not believe what I just heard ........they have numerous witnesses to this shooting and they just blew them off!!!!

280 posted on 10/16/2002 9:21:20 AM PDT by Dog
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