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Terrorism a Possibility Behind Shootings
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Posted on 10/15/2002 5:01:55 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: hoosierskypilot
William Chambliss, a criminologist and sociology professor at George Washington University, said terrorists typically own up to their deeds fairly soon after they strike Al Qaida doesn't.
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posted on
10/15/2002 5:42:14 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: thatdewd
Young said as he backed his truck out of his parking spot, a white Astro van with two men inside tried to turn into his lane. He said the driver appeared very agitated to find his way blocked and instead drove by a neighboring Chinese restaurant and out of sight. Young described the driver as a short man of slight build who appeared to be Mideastern. He said, "I got a good look at the guy." The driver "seemed to be excessively irritated because he couldn't pull into my lane," he said. "I thought this fool was going to want to get out of the van and duke or something. But he didn't. He kept on going."
To: jwalsh07
"It's important to remember that everything that terrifies is not terrorism..." Yeah, I'll keep that in mind.
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posted on
10/15/2002 5:43:53 PM PDT
by
Huck
To: hoosierskypilot; John H K
Gee, now that the concept is officially in play, I'm sure John H K will come out and eat crow...
Waiting...
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posted on
10/15/2002 5:44:43 PM PDT
by
eno_
To: concerned about politics
To: hoosierskypilot
As most of us already thought of course, and were ridiculed for it. This is terrifying, but we do know they have trained for this very kind of thing, and as I said on most posts, the government knows it too.
To: concerned about politics
PS...(again)......
Many theorists are guessing there are two at least and more if using decoys and safe houses near shootings. This would make the most sense as to how they are getting away.
To: El Gato
"William Chambliss, a criminologist and sociology professor at George Washington University, said terrorists typically own up to their deeds fairly soon after they strike."Sure, once they are done with the attack. This attack is still ongoing. Why would the perpetrator(s) want to take credit before the attack is completed?
To: wcbtinman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/769781/posts
Eric Haney was the man who said this:
Eric Haney, who trained as a sniper at Fort Bragg and was a founding member of the Army's ultrasecret Delta Force, believes the shootings are the work of a pair of young men, working in tandem as military snipers are trained to do - one as the lookout, the other the shooter. But he thinks the closest they got to a real elite sharpshooter was at a Special Operations convention.
``They're utter losers, and they know they're losers,'' said Haney, who wrote a book, ``Inside Delta Force.''
Over the weekend, Haney visited nine of the 10 shooting scenes. He imagines a shooter and a spotter/driver, perhaps swapping roles after each shot. In his mind, the driver surveys the scene, tells the shooter when it is safe to fire, then pulls away calmly, unburdened by the rush of adrenaline the shooter must be experiencing.
They're clever, he said, but not pros. The longest shot to date was 100 yards, and most of the victims were standing still or walking in a straight line toward or away from the shooter.
``It's the kind of thing that if you've never shot a rifle before in your life, you and I could spend 90 minutes together and you can do this,'' said Haney, a 20-year combat veteran.
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posted on
10/15/2002 5:48:02 PM PDT
by
dennisw
To: hoosierskypilot
Is anyone here bothered by the fact that by calling this a possible terrorist action is just an excuse for getting the military involved in domestic policing actions. Isn't this a violation of posse comititus policy?
Everything bad that happens in the world is now blamed on Al Queda. I just have a hard time believing that Al Queda is responsible for so much of this. A straw man for a deeper agenda possibly?
To: hoosierskypilot
Well, no kidding? That's what Freepers have been saying all along. Many freepers have been insisting that it IS a terrorist. There is a difference. OF COURSE they "concede" that it MAY be. It MAY BE anyone until we know otherwise. It would be just as wrong for the authorities to assume it is not a terrorist as it is for freepers to assume it is.
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posted on
10/15/2002 5:56:19 PM PDT
by
mlo
To: dennisw
Sort of about the training an Al Qaeda member would get?
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posted on
10/15/2002 5:56:20 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: ladyinred
'Zactly! It is unbelievably naive to think that for all these years, we've had virtually no constraints on millions of immigrants coming into America, and none were terrorists!
Further, it is criminal, after the events surrounding 9/11, to fail to clean up Clinton's immigration debacle.
To: section9
"This is a blatant disregard for tradecraft that doesn't seem to fit the discipline of the sleeper Al Qaeda agent. "
You mean like Richard Ried, The Shoe Bomber using matches instead of a lighter...
LOL!!!
NeverGore
To: concerned about politics
It is probably correct that he is not alone. The simple act of being in a small group of 2 or 3 makes him invisible in the moments after an attack. Everyone is looking for a shooter, and a couple of people together are instantly ruled out in the mind of anyone looking around. The best place to hide something or someone is in the open. I don't buy the safe house idea. They simply blend into traffic in the moments following an attack. Whatever vehicle is storing the weapon has been pre-rigged with a sufficient hiding place, and is probably not the vehicle used for the attack. That way, if the authorities got smart and used dogs to sniff for powder residue, the 'dirty' vehicle wouldn't have a weapon, and you could bet that which ever one of them was driving it would be 'clean' to the dogs. Shooter and gun leave in different vehicles. Just blend in to the traffic, in less than a minute they're gone and are just like everyone around them before people even realise something has happened.
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posted on
10/15/2002 5:59:54 PM PDT
by
thatdewd
To: nevergore
You mean like Richard Ried, The Shoe Bomber using matches instead of a lighter...
Okay, even I have to admit that Ried was a hilariously stupid terrorist.
But most of your top echelon AQ people are fairly good at tradecraft.
Best to never underestimate these people. Remember, they are out to kill us.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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posted on
10/15/2002 6:01:31 PM PDT
by
section9
To: mlo
Undoubtedly they are terrorists. What their motives are and the flavor of terrorist are the questions at hand.
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posted on
10/15/2002 6:04:17 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: hoosierskypilot
However, the consensus among the officials is that the sniper is American because the crimes do not bear the traditional hallmarks of an international terrorist attack -- nobody has claimed responsibility and U.S. intelligence has not heard chatter about the attacks.So what? I don't remember hearing anyone clamor to take responsibility for 9/11 either. Or any other terrorist attack against Americans in recent years for that matter. And just how specific is "chatter" usually anyway? Can't be too specific, or I'd imagine we would have prevented some of the successful attacks.
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posted on
10/15/2002 6:07:29 PM PDT
by
agrace
To: GOPJ
more than one truck?I've been thinking that for a few days too. Don't the reports on both vehicles (the van and the box truck) say they both have rear bumper damage? I'm wondering where they shoot from inside their vehicles? Out of the broken tail light or something. Or near the rear damage? It seems like someone would see someone aiming a gun.
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posted on
10/15/2002 6:09:17 PM PDT
by
knak
To: Huck
Exactly correct. FReepers are light years ahead of these morons.
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