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Saw this over at WorldnetDaily. Different take than the Washington areas "experts".
1 posted on 10/15/2002 4:52:49 AM PDT by twntaipan
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"Saw this over at WorldnetDaily. Different take than the Washington areas "experts".

This is the only profile report I have seen so far that actually makes sense.

2 posted on 10/15/2002 4:59:51 AM PDT by Kerberos
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The clues we know are:

1) The only communication (made public) refers to "God" in the role of an avenger.

2) All but 3 of the shootings occured at gas stations. These are owned by oil companies who are the dominant US presence in the Middle East and at the core of the US economy. This is no coincidence. (consider the overwhelming number of alternate public venues). This is an indirect attack on the oil industry.

3) The wording of the Tarot card message may indicate English was not his original language (speculation)

4) A Tarot expert is cited by the Post as saying that the card left at the scene of one of the shootings does not necessarily mean death, "it means transformation, a clearing away of the old to make way for the new". (this was from a BBC report)

5) There have been multiple reports of 2 people involved. This would indicate organization, team work and deep common convictions.

God, oil, "transformation from old order to new", organization, planning and teamwork between 2 people who believe in something with sufficient conviction to kill and be killed.
4 posted on 10/15/2002 5:02:13 AM PDT by Mark Felton
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Smith also speculated that the investigating police agencies aren't publicly commenting on the possibility that terrorists are behind the shootings because they don't want to hurt the public's morale.

Wouldn't hurt my morale.

It would make me want to go tear down the islamic structures that support these clandestine, cowardly attacks on my people, my nation.

Probably holding back on the terrorist connection so as NOT to affect the upcoming election.

9 posted on 10/15/2002 5:09:37 AM PDT by xzins
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Interesting post, which made sense until the last statement where the lady reversed herself:

"This is a person who wants power over the population at large," she said. "They are watching the news . They do a hit and then go home and watch it on TV."

This isn't at all consistent with the organized "terrorist" approach. A cell would be following a plan, regardless of what's reported on TV.

11 posted on 10/15/2002 5:12:40 AM PDT by toddst
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"They're not giving us much information," she said. "They don't want to tell us that because they don't want people to panic ."

Panic? Noooo... I wouldn't say that. Hostility toward the Mohammedan community? That would be more their concern.

20 posted on 10/15/2002 5:19:51 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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I've been saying that ever since the shootings first started. The timing of the sniper attacks coincides with America's preparation for the second Gulf War.
21 posted on 10/15/2002 5:21:18 AM PDT by Destructor
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It's truly amazing that virtually every talking head and profiler on the news agrees that "this doesn't fit the typical profile."

That's because its obviously a terrorist.

There is at least one kind of terrorist known to have practiced these tactics, according to the al Qaeda documents and videos found in Afghanistan (if not elsewhere). Those are Muslim terrorists.

Last night's shooting is a leisurely 10 to 15 minutes drive from Northern VA's largest Muslim neighborhood (actually closer to 10 than to 15 minutes).

Last night's shooting was so far inside the Beltway, and so far from any obvious high-speed egress route, that it seems the shooters knew they could make it home and be off the streets before a large police response of the type seen last Friday. They have so far proven calculating and observant enough to know how the police might respond, and what is a viable escape route.

I'm now pretty convinced that they're from the Muslim community near Bailey's Crossroads.

22 posted on 10/15/2002 5:22:03 AM PDT by angkor
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If this had taken place during WWII, I don't think anyone would think twice about it being connected to Nazi sympathizers.
29 posted on 10/15/2002 5:26:27 AM PDT by SternTrek
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From the beginning, the efficiency and calculation of the killings suggested a team effort and quasi-military training. Now there is the two-week-long sustained , patient, careful effort, and effort rather lacking in the emotion one would expect from the typical nutcase.

If it's NOT a terrorist, it's once for the textbooks.

Isn't Loudon close, and isn't it a big hotbed of fundamentalist Islamics?

43 posted on 10/15/2002 5:52:01 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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I may be the lone voice of dissent here, but I don't think this is terrorist related. If it were, these 'hits' wouldn't be confined to Virginia, given the reported widespread distribution of Islamic terrorist cells. Given their penchant for maximum effect, this just doesn't fit the M.O. of typical Islamic terror.
54 posted on 10/15/2002 6:21:48 AM PDT by Northpaw
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This woman needs to do better research. The Texas Tower shooter had a brain tumor and had no clue what he was doing. Not the same as a healthy person who decides to kill.
75 posted on 10/15/2002 6:59:18 AM PDT by willyone
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bump
78 posted on 10/15/2002 7:00:32 AM PDT by Vinomori
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By definition, this guy is a terrorist.

The only question in my mind is "what's his goal?" Is he Al Queda? Some ultra-right nutjob? A radical leftist (it's possible...)? Someone who just didnt like what was on TV?

I think we'll find out soon; looks like the police down there arent telling us everything. (Thank God.)

82 posted on 10/15/2002 7:09:02 AM PDT by jude24
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Last night the police rep was questioned about reports that the sniper was an "olive-skinned" male. His words downplayed the report but his nonverbal cues led me to believe that he believed this to be the case.
88 posted on 10/15/2002 7:17:43 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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Here's my follow-up logic as to why the police is not disclosing more information about the "shooter" (I'm not going to defame our armed forces sniper units).

If the shooter is a "lone nut", there is barely enough local, state and federal law enforcement officers to cover all the "targets of opporunity" while taking care of the usual levels of crime.

If the shooter is a terrorist or a part of a terrorist cell, then the LEOs are woefully understaffed to protect / monitor possible targets, usual levels of crime AND the the very real potential for "street justice" against those whom locals think may be involved with the shootings. This is a significant problem with all the fear ginned un in the communities involved.

On a good day, law inforcement responds to crime - it rarely prevents it. It is a reactionary measure to very bad social behavior. Just imagine if the "offical" word gets out that there are professional terrorists among the population who are acting with near-impunity. That would result in some serious problems for civil and social order.

jriemer

114 posted on 10/15/2002 8:04:43 AM PDT by jriemer
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FoxNews reporting that the latest victum worked for the FBI.
118 posted on 10/15/2002 8:12:48 AM PDT by Kerberos
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If it is indeed the work of jihadis, I would fully expect the gov't to keep it under wraps. Were it to come out conclusively, you would have US Muslims *begging* for internment camps - that would be the *least* of their worries.

Can you imagine the reaction in Hawaii or CA in 1941, if a Japanese sniper were found to be picking off Americans in either of those areas?

149 posted on 10/15/2002 8:55:52 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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Authorities will always attempt to call a terrorist incident anything else to minimize criticism.

God granted us the capacity to think. While bad things besides terrorism continue to happen in the world, I no longer believe in coincidences. If a new, just-inspected airliner falls apart in the sky over New York a month after 9-11, I don't call that a coincidence. If a mosquito-borne epidemic called West Nile virus kills hundreds, I note who lives on the West Nile. If a sniper kills with impunity in the nation's capital, I don't automatically assume Mr. Rogers is the culprit.


155 posted on 10/15/2002 9:54:09 AM PDT by Man of the Right
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