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D.C. SNIPER TERROR: 'This guy is good, but not as a shooter'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, October 15, 2002 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 10/15/2002 12:31:51 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

A small-arms expert trained in sniper tactics says he believes the shooter currently terrorizing the D.C. area is very capable, but not because of shooting abilities – because he has yet to be captured.

"This guy is good, but not as a shooter," says Charles Cutshaw, a technical small-arms and tactics writer for several publications, including Jane's Information Group.

"One-hundred-yard shots are nothing," Cutshaw said in an interview. "He is good at tactics. I believe he selects his location days in advance. He reconnoiters the site and selects a good 'hide' – a place that affords him cover and concealment, as well as an escape route. Then he takes his shot."

In each of the 10 shootings thus far, only one shot has been fired – in accordance with the sniper's credo: "One shot, one kill." Eight of the 10 victims struck were killed.

If accurate, Cutshaw's theory would explain why police have few solid leads and why the sniper has been successful in eluding capture. His theory would be even more remarkable if there were more than one sniper, as police believe may be the case.

"Whoever this is, he's had some kind of [sniper] training," Cutshaw said. Another hint: The shooter is leaving no brass bullet casings behind, he says, noting that snipers are trained to pick up their brass, as well as leave no other clues to their identity or shooting location behind.

The primary physical evidence police have are the bullets themselves. Authorities have said most of the shooting victims were struck with .223-caliber ammunition.

Cutshaw said the lack of brass casings at crime scenes may indicate the sniper is using a bolt-action rifle, in which he would not eject the shell casing at all. However, he said, if the shooter is using a semi-automatic rifle, he could have it fitted with a "brass catcher" – a device that fits on a semi-automatic rifle and catches the brass casings as the weapon ejects them.

"Somebody has trained him not to leave physical evidence," said Cutshaw.

Also, he added, "the fact that nobody sees this guy means he is carefully picking his targets."

The New York Post reported over the weekend that police may in fact have a videotape identifying the shooter. A surveillance camera may have caught the sniper in action in the Wednesday shooting at a Manassas gas station, the report said.

The paper reported Hobert Epps, a 36-year-old Georgia man detained by investigators near the scene of Friday's shooting, said police compared his face with a photo from the tape. Epps said officers told him a wallet-sized image was taken from a surveillance camera near the crime scene.

Cutshaw was skeptical, however.

"I'd be very surprised if a surveillance camera picked him up," he said. "If he's smart enough to do what he's doing, I'd certainly think he'd be smart enough to avoid surveillance cameras."

But is the sniper a terrorist? Cutshaw says he thinks it's very possible the shootings have been the work of terrorists.

WorldNetDaily reported Sept. 4 that an al-Qaida training videotape, captured in Afghanistan, shows Osama bin Laden's terrorists are not only planning attacks with weapons of mass destruction but are preparing to kill Americans with drive-by shootings and home break-ins, through ambushes of law-enforcement officers and targeted assassinations on golf courses.

Meanwhile, the Post also reported yesterday that cops have retreated somewhat from their initial belief that the shooter may only be a "sniper wannabe" – someone who is fascinated with the sniper subculture but has only limited sniper skills – because of the Manassas attack.

Last Wednesday, the sniper shot and killed Dean Myers, 53, from a distance of around 150 yards – a difficult shot, police said, because Meyers was hit in the head by a bullet that threaded a tight corridor between two fuel-pump islands, said the paper.

Cutshaw even opined that the Beltway sniper, as he is being called, may never be captured, unless he gives himself up.

That viewpoint was shared by a 31-year Marine Scout Sniper veteran, the details of which were included in a column penned by Capitol Hill Blue's Doug Thompson yesterday.

"He won't get caught," the Marine sniper vet – who was not named – said. "He will have to quit on his own or turn himself in."

The veteran also voiced concern over a theory now under consideration by police and federal officials – that the shooter or shooters were trained in the U.S. military.

He said the Manassas shooting "was the work of a pro. Well-planned, scoped out. I'm starting to think this guy was trained by one of the services."

Police have asked the Defense Department to check various armed forces' sniper schools for information about former students, rejected applicants or students kicked out for psychological problems, the New York Post said yesterday.

Over the weekend, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., badgered the National Rifle Association for opposing a bill he has authored calling for a national database of "ballistic fingerprints" for every firearm sold.

Each firearm would be test-fired by gun makers before they are sold, with the bullet "fingerprints" put into a federal database.

"We let our police use human fingerprints; why don't we let our police use the fingerprint that guns and bullets make?" asked Schumer.

Cutshaw said he is disappointed by some lawmakers' calls for stricter laws against so-called "sniper rifles," mostly because he says they are – perhaps intentionally – misrepresenting certain weapons for political gain.

"The call is already going to ban sniper rifles, but what's a 'sniper rifle'?" he said. "It could be any rifle with a scope on it.

"You don't need a true sniper rifle for shots at 100 yards or so," he continued. "Any rifle with open sights will do. I can take those kinds of shots with most [semi-automatic] rifles on the market now."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
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To: LisaFab
As posted on another thread by hobbes1
What are you Insane?

Anyone with half a brain, knows that this a CIA Black Bag Job, to keep the economy off the front page till election time. Ask Maxine Waters.

Or, It is some Angry white male, NRA member.

56 posted on 10/15/02 4:41 AM Pacific by hobbes1

81 posted on 10/15/2002 10:04:36 AM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: alaskanfan
LOL! Maryland LE press conference on now. This new white van composite is pretty worhless. They might as well have just gone to the Chevy website and downloaded the same thing.
82 posted on 10/15/2002 10:09:01 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: LisaFab
I would agree, so far these LEOs look like bumbling idiots, but I would expect an arrest or suicide by LEO forthwith. Only if they have the evidence that they indicate they have(partial plate and vehicle description).
83 posted on 10/15/2002 10:13:54 AM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: JohnHuang2
IF this guy turns out to be Al Qaeda then we, as Americans, may have to seriously rethink how we treat the Muslims in this country and how we can successfully close our borders to outsiders, especially illegal aliens! We certainly cannot stand still while we are picked off one by one.
84 posted on 10/15/2002 10:16:15 AM PDT by MoGalahad
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To: JohnHuang2
This guy isn't even good at tactics because no one is making an effort to stop him at the scene. This guy arrives at an area, waits for a victim, shoots and then drives away.
Where are the tactics in that?
How hard is it to have plain clothes police officers in the parking lot of the Michael's stores in the area?
85 posted on 10/15/2002 10:19:49 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: alaskanfan
muzzel flash

There is some from the 223, but it is over quickly. If the shooter is in some concealment, such as between cars or buildings, not many people would be in line to see.

86 posted on 10/15/2002 10:24:27 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: OKSooner; porte des morts
Hitting a target the size of a small plate at 150 yards is not easy for a "hacker"--OKSooner

This latest shot was to the head and at night....even at 100-125 yards, not to bad of a shot.(how many of the others were to the head?)--porte de morte

Seems pretty easy if it's just a matter of putting a red dot on somebody's head and squeezing off a round.


87 posted on 10/15/2002 10:32:34 AM PDT by henbane
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To: RightWhale
Sorry about the spelling on the original post. Muzzle.

After reading more about the area that the shooting occured in last night, it was described as well lighted many times.

I guess living up here in a remote suburban area, I'm used to being in the dark in more than one sense of the word.

88 posted on 10/15/2002 10:32:40 AM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: alaskanfan
it was described as well lighted

Yes, that too. Ironic isn't it that all this glaring light was provided for the safety of the citizens? Ironic. In the bush, you can see for miles, it's never completely dark in the Arctic. Why would someone stand under a parking lot light or a wall-pack light when surrounded by darkness?

89 posted on 10/15/2002 10:39:34 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: JohnHuang2
If this guy keeps it up long enough, he will be caught.
90 posted on 10/15/2002 10:47:35 AM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: alaskanfan
I would agree, so far these LEOs look like bumbling idiots, but I would expect an arrest or suicide by LEO forthwith.

Suicide? By the perp(s) you mean, I hope:-)

I would think if Al Qaeda, they will take others with them to Allah and the 72 virgins when they go.

91 posted on 10/15/2002 10:54:51 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: LisaFab
Suicide? By the perp(s) you mean, I hope:-)

Correct, LEOs as an enabler.

92 posted on 10/15/2002 11:04:08 AM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: Ditter; tje; Shooter 2.5
I knew I'd get some replies like this because of the way I worded my post, so let me clarify:

Maybe what I should have said instead of "small plate" is "keep 'em in the black", (or about 6"), in an NRA SRM-whatever target that's used for 100yd Military Bolt Action matches. "Small plate" is better for a couple of reasons, mainly 'cause that's something everyone understands.

When I shoot in these matches, I'll shoot fifty rounds plus maybe five sight-in shots. Do I put most of them in the black? Yes, on a good day. Have I ever put them all in the black? Never. Highest score I've ever shot is 260-something, which puts me near the 50th percentile of people who participate in these matches at my club. It puts me I dunno, I'd bet in the top 25th percentile in a CMP match which is a better cross section of average shooters, depending on who shows up.

Bottom line? If I were drafted and sent to Iraq to do to Saddam what these guys have been doing in Washington, I WOULDN'T BE EVEN CLOSE TO 100% RELIABLE, ESPECIALLY UNDER PRESSURE, IN BAD WEATHER, IN A HOSTILE ENVIRONMNET.

That's the standard of marksmanship that applies in my house as well, not "Did I once hit a prarie dog at 300 yards", but "What can I consistently, reliably, and predictably hit at 100 (or 150) yards in the worst conditions and circumstances if my life depends on it?"

Answer: This dessert plate I'm eating my sandwich off of now at lunch. That's my answer and I'm sticking to it.

And I daresay if these guys are better riflemen than me (which hasn't been proven, BTW, one account of last nite's shooting was that one of them got out of a car and shot the poor lady from 30 yards) it's because they've had training and practice.

93 posted on 10/15/2002 11:21:02 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: henbane
"Seems pretty easy if it's just a matter of putting a red dot on somebody's head and squeezing off a round.

Nothing personal my friend, but your statement illustrates the education curve that's involved here. As a matter of fact there's a great deal more involved that just some red dot.

Have someone take you shooting sometime and give it a try.

94 posted on 10/15/2002 11:25:53 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
Yep.... it's not exactly like the video games.
95 posted on 10/15/2002 11:28:41 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: OKSooner
Pick any sport: basketball--seems easy, just throw the ball in the hoop; golf--seems easy ...
96 posted on 10/15/2002 11:31:31 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: JohnHuang2
"This guy is good, but not as a shooter"

Hey sniper! You see this? You suck as a sniper.
Your only 9 kills for 11 shots in high visability,crowded, urban areas, mostly in broad daylight, with the police, FBI, ATF, etc., and the public on high alert looking for you.
97 posted on 10/15/2002 12:02:25 PM PDT by philetus
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To: OKSooner
I think we're in agreement. For the most part, this is all conjecture and we could one day discover this was pulled off by some extremely lucky rube (lucky shots and lucky get aways). We do not have all the information, only what the press has 'leaked' and what a few people here have dug up.

But the more successes this guy racks up, the less and less luck has anything to do with it and then skill, practice, and maybe training are the defining factors.

98 posted on 10/15/2002 12:53:45 PM PDT by tje
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To: jacquej; copycat
#17 I am concerned that this is a "test-run" for similar attacks during the Christmas Shopping season at various locations around the country.

and,

#29 Lends credence to the Al Queda "wave" of terror theory.

I hope we're wrong but, at least, we're on the same sheet of music.

99 posted on 10/15/2002 2:30:44 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: OKSooner
As a matter of fact there's a great deal more involved that just some red dot.

For the many interested Freepers that lack experience in this category, a few specific details on the laser/markmanship skills required would be a really big help.

Thanks.

100 posted on 10/15/2002 3:06:06 PM PDT by henbane
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