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THE OKLAHOMA CITY -- 911 CONNECTION
http://twa800.com/news/mastalk-10-10-02.htm ^ | 10/13/02 | Michael Smerconish

Posted on 10/13/2002 4:03:40 PM PDT by JohnFiorentino

The Okla. City-Sept. 11 Connection By Michael Smerconish mas@mastalk.com

I'M NOT A conspiracy guy. I think Oswald killed Kennedy, and that he acted alone. And, like all Americans, I figured that the tragic bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City was the work of two sick ex-Army guys, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.

Now I'm not so sure. Last night, my radio station, the Big Talker 1210, brought three speakers to town for a remarkable presentation: Jayna Davis, a reporter from Oklahoma City; Larry Johnson, ex-deputy director of the State Department's office of counterterrorism, and Patrick Lang, Mideast expert formerly of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

In a spellbinding presentation, they made the case for a connection between Mideast terrorism, the Murrah bombing - and the attacks on the Twin Towers. Now I know why former CIA Director James Woolsey has been quoted as saying that when the full truth is known about these acts of terrorism, the nation will owe Davis "a debt of gratitude."

Why her name is not already a household word is the greatest mystery of all. Just this week, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said that U.S. intelligence has "bulletproof" evidence of links between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. Rumsfeld didn't offer specifics. But here is what we know from the work of Davis.

When the Murrah bombing occurred at 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, Davis was a reporter for the NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City. She was among the first journalists to broadcast that an enormous truck bomb had rocked the heartland, killing 168 and injuring hundreds.

In the immediate aftermath of the explosion, the FBI launched an international pursuit of several Middle Eastern-looking men seen fleeing the Murrah Building in a brown Chevy pickup right before the blast. Without explanation, that all-points bulletin was later canceled. Two days later, Timothy McVeigh was a household name. So was Terry Nichols. And that's where most of us left the tale. Stunned, but convinced that two Army buddies, homegrown terrorists, acted alone.

Thankfully, Davis didn't close this book as quickly as most of us did. She pursued the APB and set off to track reports of multiple sightings of McVeigh with an elusive dark-haired accomplice. The infamous sketch of John Doe No. 2 was always tucked firmly in her grip.

Davis soon uncovered that several employees at an Oklahoma City property- management company said they had seen a brown Chevy truck like the getaway vehicle aggressively pursued by law enforcement parked outside their office in the days before the bombing. The company's owner was a Palestinian with a rap sheet and suspected ties to the PLO.

Davis learned that, six months before the bombing, the Palestinian hired a handful of ex-Iraqi soldiers to do maintenance at his rental houses. Eyewitnesses told Davis that they celebrated the bombing.

She was also made aware that these same men were absent from work on April 17, 1995, the day McVeigh rented the Ryder truck that carried the bomb. While pursuing the story of these Middle Eastern men, Davis also became aware of another ex-Iraqi soldier in Oklahoma City named Hussain Hashem Al-Hussaini. She was taken aback to see that Al-Hussaini's picture, when overlaid with the government sketch of John Doe No. 2, was arguably a perfect match. He even sported a tattoo on his upper left arm indicating that he likely had served in Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard. Davis then set about looking for a connection to McVeigh, Nichols, Al-Hussaini and other Iraqis. It came when a colleague located two eyewitnesses who claimed to have independently seen Al-Hussaini drinking beer with McVeigh in an Oklahoma City nightclub just four days before the bombing.

This convinced her station to run with the Iraqi-connection story. It was met with some controversy.

The Justice Department responded that the identification of John Doe No. 2 was merely a case of mistaken identity. Al-Hussaini contacted local reporters, claiming to be falsely accused. Davis did not back off because she believed she could repudiate Al-Hussaini's alibi.

AND SHE LOCATED two dozen witnesses who identified eight specific Middle Eastern men, the majority of whom were ex-Iraqi soldiers, who were seen with McVeigh and Nichols. Two witnesses named Al-Hussaini as the dark-haired, olive-skinned man they observed one block from the Murrah Building just before daybreak on the day of the blast.

She also uncovered evidence that implicated several of Al-Hussaini's co-workers. One of these men was identified as sitting in the driver's seat of a Chevy pickup at an Oklahoma City apartment complex hours before the truck was abandoned on the lot and towed to the FBI command post. According to police records, the truck had been stripped of its vehicle identification numbers and identifying body molding.

The story gathered steam. Here, it would appear, was the deserted pickup that was the same vehicle that was seen speeding away from the vicinity of the Murrah building with two Arab-looking occupants.

And there was more. Five witnesses independently fingered several of Al-Hussaini's associates as frequent visitors to an Oklahoma City motel in the months, days, and hours leading up to 9:02 a.m. on April 19. On numerous occasions, the subjects were seen in the company of McVeigh, and during a few instances, associating with Nichols - at the same motel!

Davis spoke to the motel owner and a maintenance worker who said the men came within feet of a large Ryder truck parked on the west side of the parking lot at 7:40 a.m. on April 19. An unexplained odor of diesel fuel emanated from the rear carriage. Minutes later, McVeigh entered the motel office and returned the room key. The motel owner then saw McVeigh drive off the lot with a man identified as Al-Hussaini.

To this day, the Justice Department has refused to return the original registration logs for the motel.

Davis has 80 pages of affidavits and 2,000 supporting documents, and they suggest not only an Iraqi connection to the Murrah bombing, but also to the attacks against the Twin Towers.

For example, Nichols was a man of modest means. Yet he traveled frequently to the Philippines. Davis discovered that Nichols was there, in Cebu City in December 1994, at the same time as the convicted mastermind of the first World Trade Center attack, Ramzi Yousef.

She has also found evidence that Islamic terrorists boasted of having recruited two "lily whites" for terrorism.

Al-Hussaini had a very American response to Davis' investigation. He sued for defamation. In a ruling on Nov. 17, 1999, federal Judge Timothy Leonard dismissed the case.

In 1995, the federal grand jury proclaimed in the official indictment that McVeigh and Nichols acted with "others unknown." And several members of the Denver juries who convicted the two said publicly that they thought they had help.

Since 1997, Davis has repeatedly tried to interest the FBI in her investigation. She has been rebuffed.

As for Al-Hussaini, after leaving Oklahoma City, he went on to work at Boston's Logan International Airport, the point of origin for several for the 9/11 hijackers, including Mohammad Atta.

One more thing. That motel where McVeigh, Nichols and Al-Hussaini were seen together was later visited (pre-9/11) by Atta, Zacharias Moussaouy and Marwan Al-Shehi.


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To: Lockbox
Yeah, but remember: He didn't inhale :-)
21 posted on 10/13/2002 4:56:45 PM PDT by JohnFiorentino
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To: stevem
The ugly secret is that it was the clinton administration that had to have McVeigh and Nichols as the only perpetrators. Otherwise, those people might have had to act in the interests of the US.

Absolutely, positively correct! Just as it shows in Freeh's testimony back in 98 & 99, the main terrorists they were concerned about was 'right-wing' groups. I wish Woolsey would tell all he knows.

22 posted on 10/13/2002 5:12:48 PM PDT by Maigret
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To: Maigret
I wish Woolsey would tell all he knows.

So do I, but it's not going to happen.

23 posted on 10/13/2002 5:18:46 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: JohnFiorentino
Bump for later reading.
24 posted on 10/13/2002 5:22:29 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: JohnFiorentino
The Iraqi officers came in after the Gulf war. Approximately 6,000 Iraqis were brought back from the Gulf, supposedly, because they would be killed by Hussein for aiding the enemy and surrendering prematurely. 2,000 were located in Lincoln, Nebraska and 4,000 in Oklahoma City. They were taken to Ft. Smith, Arkansas where they were involved in rioting and looting before being settled in the civilian sector.

Evidently Saddam was able to slip in some sabotuers and terrorists. There has been a problem ever since getting anybody to acknowlege the policy. I suppose it reflected on the incomplete end of the Gulf war during the first Bush administration. Then the hush-up of OK City connections during the Clinton term because for some reason, Clinton wanted to lay the connection onto the militia movement.

This whole episode has been known around Oklahoma City since the bombing but the media and Congress have avoided the issue. This issue continues to disrupt our policy today regarding the FBI and the war on terrorism as well as the Iraq situation.

While covering up the Iraqi connection in the bombing of the Murray building, we have those individuals out in the public ready to strike again. I have relatives in Oklahoma and have visited with them on the situation and their feelings at the betrayal of justice.

25 posted on 10/13/2002 5:39:58 PM PDT by meenie
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To: JohnFiorentino
Did you include the sinking of the Titanic?
26 posted on 10/13/2002 5:48:27 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: stevem
I had David on my FreeRepublic Radio show a few months ago to discuss this. This event was what saved the Sinkmaster's butt and created the attack on the so-called vast right wing conspiracy. The bastard divided America to save himself. He did nothing after the first WTC attack, and the truth about this one would have finished him. He sickeningly turned it to his advantage.
27 posted on 10/13/2002 5:53:38 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: meenie
Do you have any sources for this information?

Especially, the supposition that "Evidently Saddam was able to slip in some sabotuers and terrorists."

Hussein Al-Husseini, a former Iraqi soldier, may have been John Doe 2.

Timothy McVeigh, a former American soldier, was John Doe 1.

Do you get my point?
28 posted on 10/13/2002 5:56:37 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: meenie
Clinton got a LOT of mileage out of the OKC bombing, blaming it on white supremacists, right-wing militias, Newt Gingrich, and even on conservative talk-show hosts. As Ambrose-Pritchard pointed out, it turned clinton's election campaign around and probably got him re-elected.

The last thing in the world he wanted was to pin it on Muslim terrorists. So the order went out, forget John Doe #2.

Bush, unfortunately, has shown himself to be absolutely unwilling to turn over any of the rocks under which clinton buried his bodies. I can see where Bush might not want to get personally involved, but he also seems to be reining in Ashcroft, the US Attorneys, and the FBI. No one is allowed to touch or badmouth clinton.

So, I don't think the OKC bombing, TWA 800, or the Vince Foster and Ron Brown murders are going to be solved anytime soon.
29 posted on 10/13/2002 5:58:43 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: backhoe
bump
30 posted on 10/13/2002 6:22:58 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Earlier this month, TV station al-Jazeera aired an audio tape in which a voice attributed to bin Laden warned that the "youths of God" are planning more attacks against the US.....CNN

I am God connection?

31 posted on 10/13/2002 6:36:57 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
Good find I forgot about this.
32 posted on 10/13/2002 6:40:45 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Lockbox
Yeah, and don't forget the convenient scapegoats for the bombing were the ememies of his third-way socialism: white Christian, independent, BOR thumpin' right wing whackos who voted Republican and called Clinton bad names.
"Hey! I can use this, hyuhk."
33 posted on 10/13/2002 6:49:09 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: concerned about politics
Where did you find this. I remember this in a thread, that believe it or not our post n run dude did not post..

Wanna start a thread of facts leading to the snipers being terrorists of OBL?

Ping me...I do not know if I have the energy tonight.

34 posted on 10/13/2002 6:49:42 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: JohnFiorentino
If it were not for the graphic video of the left rear of Kennedy's head being blown out, I'd agree with you. I'd agree that we might not understand all of the mechanics of Oswald's shots in full, and accept that he did it. But the video I've seen convinces me that a bullet from the right front struck Kennedy. It appears to have blown out the left rear of his head, at the same time blowing his scalp out and back over the right forward side of his head. I will never understand how a shot from Oswald could have accomplished that. That being the case, I must consider at least two guns to have been involved. It seem to me to have been a conspiracy.
35 posted on 10/13/2002 6:51:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Cicero
Ditto
36 posted on 10/13/2002 6:52:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: TomServo
You are a bad American.
37 posted on 10/13/2002 6:56:20 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: DoughtyOne
I don't know what video you are referring to. The Zapruder film has now been digitized, you may want to purchase that if you don't have it. In any event, there was NO disruption to the "left rear" of Kennedy's head.

A single bullet entered the rear of the head, slightly right and above the occipital protuberance. The bullet exited through the top of the head, with a large fragment exiting from the right parietal area, above the President's ear. That is the "flap" you are referring to.
38 posted on 10/13/2002 7:13:27 PM PDT by JohnFiorentino
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To: JohnFiorentino
"I'M NOT A conspiracy guy." (caps yours)

Yahoo TWA800 forum - April 12, 2002
From: John Fiorentino
Subject: Re: [twa800] Kabofovic revisited
[excerpt][quote][emphasis added]
Most here are convinced a "missile" did the dirty deed. I'm not, not yet at least. The initial assessment was "bomb". I thought so to. I still do.
[end quote]

According to this, TEN metallurgists (four from the NTSB, three from Boeing, two from the FBI Laboratory, and one scientist consultant) found no evidence of a bomb (or missile) in the wreckage of TWA 800. Since you apparently disagree, do you believe they were incompetent or part of a coverup conspiracy?

39 posted on 10/13/2002 7:18:06 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
As usual Asmodeus, you can't get anything right. I didn't author the article of this thread. So your paste of:
"I'M NOT A conspiracy guy." (caps yours)....is in ERROR.

THE OKLAHOMA CITY -- 911 CONNECTION
http://twa800.com/news/mastalk-10-10-02.htm ^ | 10/13/02 | Michael Smerconish


Posted on 10/13/2002 7:03 PM Eastern by JohnFiorentino



The rest of your clap-trap is old news. Is this an example of your "EXPERT" witness analysis. If you worked for me, I'd fire your butt.
40 posted on 10/13/2002 7:26:32 PM PDT by JohnFiorentino
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