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I THINK THE SNIPERS ARE AL QAEDA
Various Cable Networks ^ | 11 October 2002 | Myself

Posted on 10/11/2002 1:40:39 PM PDT by LSUfan

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To: Servant of the Nine; All
Interesting theory you posted in message #144, Servant of the Nine.

Check out this thread below for an excellent discussion of the recent sniper attacks.

"This Guy Must Be Ex-Military"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/767537/posts

241 posted on 10/11/2002 4:45:43 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: TXBubba
I've always thought it was al-queda too. No way this is one person alone, its a team, and that doesn't spell nut to me, but terrorism.
242 posted on 10/11/2002 4:49:51 PM PDT by Intimidator
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To: LSUfan
I think you are right.
243 posted on 10/11/2002 4:50:19 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: LSUfan
... I'd like to see the list of serial killing TEAMS in American history!

Here's one: Charlie Starkweather & Caril Ann Fugate, who killed a total of 11 people in the 1950s. The movie "Badlands" was based on their story.

Also, there was Leonard Lake and Charles Ng in California in the 1980s.

244 posted on 10/11/2002 4:50:45 PM PDT by Schatze
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To: BunnySlippers
For a few more serial killer teams, see my post #244.
245 posted on 10/11/2002 4:57:25 PM PDT by Schatze
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To: LSUfan
I'd say that it is a good possibility that the sniper(s) is(are) Al'Qaeda. That, or someone who wants to make it LOOK like it is Al'Qaeda or even Iraqi sponsored terrorists. WHOEVER it is, they aren't amatures.

I do have to wonder why they are picking off people at gas stations though. You'd think foreign terrorists would be choosing more strategically important targets. And why only the Beltway area?

246 posted on 10/11/2002 4:57:37 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: ladyinred
not to mention; not going to work
247 posted on 10/11/2002 5:04:23 PM PDT by knak
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To: Copernicus
If it weren't for the fact that a shell casing was found, I wouldn't be suprised if the weapon being used was a single shot TC Contender type pistol equipped with a telescopic sight.

L

248 posted on 10/11/2002 5:08:19 PM PDT by Lurker
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To: LSUfan
What if the gas station angle, coupled with the attack on the oil tanker in Yemen, and the "chatter in the system" about AQ attacks on US economic interests are pointing toward attacks on the refineries of the Texas Gulf coast?

Just speculating, mind you.

249 posted on 10/11/2002 5:10:25 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: LSUfan
A new white van theory

Someone has mentioned that the van could be a decoy, but I'd like to elaborate on that and suggest the white van as an unwitting decoy.

Bear with me. This morning, when I heard the news about a "white van" being seen again, I was driving, stopped at a busy intersection. From my field of view, I counted 6 white vans. Then one drove by with racked ladders. White vans are all over the place. What I'm thinking is this: The shooter(s) sets up at a target and waits until a white van shows up or drives by. That's the green light to hit a target. Unless the van is very very close, he probably wouldn't realize what had just happened, so he just keeps going. He's 3 or 4 miles away before he hears the news or any sirens, and it just doesn't even occur to the driver that HE is driving the white van. Meantime, the whole world is ignoring other vehicles, because they aren't white vans. It might be worth going back to the original tips of "white vans" to see if they were planted as a misdirection strategy.

Notice that the van description seems to vary. The "with ladders" didn't show up until today, though it seems like something everyone would have noticed before

251 posted on 10/11/2002 5:13:09 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: Lurker
"a shell casing was found"

He threw it on the ground.

252 posted on 10/11/2002 5:13:23 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: TXBubba
I have also suspected that these guys may be associated with Al Queda.

If the sniper or snipers are associated with Al Queda, then it's just a matter of time before they start taking out truck divers on I-95. There's a lot of chemicals being hauled along that route.

Txbubba?? You ain't of that blam! blam! fame? if you are then you know what I mean - if not, forget about it.

253 posted on 10/11/2002 5:14:23 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: TXBubba
I have also suspected that these guys may be associated with Al Queda.

If the sniper or snipers are associated with Al Queda, then it's just a matter of time before they start taking out truck divers on I-95. There's a lot of chemicals being hauled along that route.

Txbubba?? You ain't of that blam! blam! fame? if you are then you know what I mean - if not, forget about it.

254 posted on 10/11/2002 5:15:38 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Alouette
The movie was fairly fictionalized, but the story was real. The two had a real sniper's duel and the Russian peasant won.
255 posted on 10/11/2002 5:16:24 PM PDT by Rifleman
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To: LSUfan
This could very well be sniper teams fighting their side of this war. I agree!
256 posted on 10/11/2002 5:16:28 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: Joe Brower
Bleeding hearts of America, You let this happen.

This would make a great poster for our Troop rallys. Do you mind if I steal it? I think it would be fantastic to hold that one up to the bleeding hearts across the street.

257 posted on 10/11/2002 5:21:45 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: FormerLurker
"I do have to wonder why they are picking off people at gas stations though"

Well I'll toss in my speculation

Gas stations symbolise oil. I believe these killings started on the the same date as the conviction of the blind cleric who was in charge of the World Trade Center bombing. I think the only people who don't know this is terrorism are the ones who are in charge of protecting us from it.

258 posted on 10/11/2002 5:22:36 PM PDT by Davea
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To: Sir Gawain
possible that the sniper or snipers are firing from inside the windowless cargo areas, and not the passenger windows, of the vehicles.

How do you fire out of the windowless part of a van?

Well, maybe the solution is... he isn't inside, and that's why they are so certain they won't be caught.

I say "they", because the team would require a driver and possibly lookout/spotter with communication. With a bit of sheetmetal work and some paint, I'd bet one could make a prone sniper's nest under the floor and out of sight in a van or small truck. Perhaps the guy is shooting from where the tailpipe hole is located? He would be completely hidden and enclosed as he peers out his hole at practically street level. He couldn't take really close shots, but where the parallax angle is better, say over 300 feet, he could easily have enough angle to hit a standing person at street level if his vehicle was not moving.

If that's the case, even somebody immediately stopping the van would find a couple of unarmed guys in a completely "empty" van. The shooter would be below the floorboards under a false fairing of some sort. It would be an almost invisible hide, and unlikely to be uncovered in all but the most invasive search. Even stopping the vehicle on I-95 (or any road) and looking inside wouldn't do any good. Neither would looking at the undercarriage. The shooter could be sandwiched between.

Who knows?

But one thing is for sure,... the shooter is hiding in plain sight, is in no hurry for a getaway to hide either the shooter or weapon, makes 'invisible' shots and is never seen (even with a state trooper 50 yards away), there is no sign of a weapon or suspect, and he shoots at leisure.

The exception is the school, but that seemed pretty isolated in location and perhaps was done to plant a false evidence trail and MO to dilute the investigation to nutballs as well as AQs?

Gas stations, parking lots and street corners are easy targets. They are right near where there are lots of vehicles moving and stopping, including his.

259 posted on 10/11/2002 5:23:21 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: LSUfan
My thoughts exactly.

In this climate, I don't believe in coincidences. When a new aircraft that had just been inspected falls apart over New York a month after 9-11, I don't necessarily believe it was an accident. If an epidemic called West Nile Virus breaks out in the U.S., I don't necessarily believe it was bad luck. When a sniper and accomplice shuts down the DC metro area, I don't necessarily think we'll discover it's a native-born Christian or Jewish American of European descent.


260 posted on 10/11/2002 5:23:36 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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