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They Keep Seeing White Vans Close to Sniper Because White Ones Are <i>Everywhere</i>

Posted on 10/11/2002 8:57:25 AM PDT by GulliverSwift

I keep hearing on the news that "witnesses saw a white vehicle" near the crime scene. And every time the cops pull these over, they're not the bad guy.

Have you ever noticed that most vans are white? I didn't notice it until I was sitting by a busy highway and noticed that most of the vans are white. I had no idea. Try it.

But maybe the shooter is driving a white one, very possible since most drivers are.



TOPICS: US: Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: gullishares; sniper; whitevan
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To: GulliverSwift
Guess it depends on where you live. Out here vans come in two colors: beige and grey (and the grey ones usually have burgundy trim). Vans are the prefered vehicle of serial killers (used to be powder blue VW bugs) so there's a good chance this isn't a red herring (or I guess white herring in this case).
21 posted on 10/11/2002 10:54:43 AM PDT by discostu
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To: GulliverSwift
The profiling police are coming...
22 posted on 10/11/2002 11:01:54 AM PDT by MadMoo
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To: Revolting cat!
Nice try at diversion cat, but we know what They Keep Seeing White Vans Close to Sniper is telling us to look for

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23 posted on 10/11/2002 4:42:16 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Revolting cat!
Nice try at diversion cat, but we know what They Keep Seeing White Vans Close to Sniper is telling us to look for

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24 posted on 10/11/2002 4:43:43 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Oztrich Boy
Shhh! Don't say it again!
25 posted on 10/11/2002 4:46:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: GulliverSwift
The reports have been all over the place on the vehicle angle: white box truck, white van, white box truck with double-wheel rear axle, Dodge Caravan with panel sides instead of windows, white Astro van, etc. Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable. And you're right, white is one of the most common vehicle colors. I know. I work for one of the major Japanese vehicle mfrs.
26 posted on 10/11/2002 4:55:08 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: Semper911
Have to be very cautious about believing the details in a fast-breaking story, but I believe the vehicle you are speaking of was found and the occupants were cleared.
27 posted on 10/11/2002 4:57:29 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: Wolfstar
I believe the vehicle you are speaking of was found and the occupants were cleared.

Indeed it was. I was only posting and commenting on the news reports of the moment.

If we had to wait until every fact is confirmed and proven, Free Republic would have to change its name to The History Channel.

28 posted on 10/11/2002 6:39:50 PM PDT by Semper911
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To: Semper911
What you say is true, but the white van seen leaving the scene today was bumping other vehicles in order to get away.

Presumably now they will have some forensic evidence, (paint chips) to narrow down the make, model, and year of this white van. Interestingly, there is a ladder mounted on this van.

See, I was right, look what the Washington Post reported, after confirming ballistic evidence witht the latest in VA:

An employee of a nearby Howard Johnson's motel said she also saw a white van shortly before the shooting. She said it was driven by a blonde woman with a man in the passenger seat. She did not see the shooting, however. The woman, who spoke on the condition her name would not be published, has been questioned by police.

The sightings prompted a widespread search for white vans. Julie Heesey of the Fairfax County Police said officers were looking for "any white van," and urged citizens observing white vans acting erratically to report it to 911.

"I don't think anyone realized how many white vans there are out there until all of this happened," said Prince William Commonwealth's Attorney Paul B. Ebert. "They're all over the road."

Lucy Caldwell, a state police spokeswoman, said that scores of vehicles were stopped yesterday but that no one was arrested.

Many are skeptical that the white van is more than a dead end. Some investigators said they don't doubt that witnesses to yesterday's shooting saw the van, but noted that none knew whether the occupants – some reported seeing one and others two – had anything to do with the shooting.

Indeed, the focus on the van may be as much a reflection of the dearth of hard information as it is eyewitness reports.

"I wouldn't want the people of Virginia to focus just on white vans," Massengill said. "We don't want preconceived notions out there. But certainly . . . you have to play the hand that you're dealt. And the information that has come to us deals with white vans. So we're still interested in white vans."

Sources close to the investigation suggested that because the vans now command so much attention, people who once would have ignored them are more apt to notice them. They said the presence of a white van could be a coincidence.

Just like I said, there's so darn many of them out there, of course you're going to find one in the vicinity of the shooting, and that's all people are looking for.

"I don't think anyone realized how many white vans there are out there until all of this happened," said Prince William Commonwealth's Attorney Paul B. Ebert. "They're all over the road."

I did, since I noticed it a few months ago. The sniper has really lucked out that all this manpower is occupied with one of the most common types of vehicles on the road.

29 posted on 10/11/2002 10:11:37 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: martin_fierro
Proper profiling DOES include Vans (even with red curly tops!)
30 posted on 10/14/2002 11:05:25 AM PDT by MadMoo
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