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NEWSFLASH: Another shooting, approx. 9 AM, this time near Fredericksburg
The Free Lance-Star ^ | now | Jim Lakely

Posted on 10/11/2002 6:54:58 AM PDT by seamus

I work in a newsroom in Fredericksburg, and they heard on the police scanner that a person has been shot at a gas station at "Four Mile Fork" which is a neighborhood just south of the City of Fredericksburg.

No details yet, but I wanted to let y'all know -- and keep up the tradition of FReepers getting news first.

Pray for the victim, and pray that this is a random shooting, and that this monster's terror has not widened yet again.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: monster; shooting; sniper
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To: md2576
This is getting addictive I better start working.
1,181 posted on 10/11/2002 10:17:56 AM PDT by md2576
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To: OReilly
This isn't no kid......he is so sure of his skills it is scary...its a PRO.
1,182 posted on 10/11/2002 10:18:46 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Free Trapper
That brush is actually 'hard bronze', and many target shooters won't pass one thru' their bore . . .

Me? Depends on the rifle. I scrub 'Old Betsy' (my trusty '06 Mauser) with a stainless brush about every 18-20 shots. 8^P

1,183 posted on 10/11/2002 10:18:49 AM PDT by Crowcreek
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To: Dog
Can we forget what race the victims are ......they are AMERICANS...

I think mystery-ak was just reporting what was said at the press conference. People of various ethnicities have been killed.

So I think it's unlikely that anyone could say that race is an issue in determining victims.

1,184 posted on 10/11/2002 10:19:02 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: sissyjane

1,185 posted on 10/11/2002 10:19:28 AM PDT by michigander
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To: Dog
Police just walked by the cameras ......with a bloodhound.

So, what does that mean, and what exactly do they think they are looking for?

1,186 posted on 10/11/2002 10:19:38 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: md2576
I think the tip you sent must have been a good one... I don't think the site would have been pulled unless cops thought the description of the card and the way it was left could compromise their investigation.

I suppose the link could have dissappeared coincidentally, but I doubt it.
1,187 posted on 10/11/2002 10:20:02 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: michigander
Is that from today? Terrorism task force. Just on loan?
1,188 posted on 10/11/2002 10:20:43 AM PDT by relee
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To: SarahW
Well if nothing else, the author of this piece should be arrested for molestation of language....
1,189 posted on 10/11/2002 10:21:04 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: relee
LOL>>>>>>
1,190 posted on 10/11/2002 10:21:04 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: FreeTally
My guess they are searching the wooded area across from the gas station....looking for a matted area where he took the shot.
1,191 posted on 10/11/2002 10:21:24 AM PDT by Dog
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To: sissyjane
Saw a bit of Ari's daily briefing earlier and he basically said that regardless of who is responsible, the result is terror. I agree - domestic or foreign, this is terrorism. He also said that the sniper shootings are part of Bush's daily FBI briefing now and that federal LE is helping local authorities in any way possible.
1,192 posted on 10/11/2002 10:21:33 AM PDT by agrace
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To: michigander
Well, from the news conference, we are back to 2 perps and a white van--this time with some sort of latter. I thought it interesting that the police have a description of the suspects but are not releasing any details on that.
1,193 posted on 10/11/2002 10:21:58 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Thank-you ET, that is exactly what I was doing.
1,194 posted on 10/11/2002 10:22:04 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I would have slapped her for asking that question.
1,195 posted on 10/11/2002 10:22:17 AM PDT by relee
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To: relee
Wonder if it has occured to the cops that this killer hops from motel to motel, or uses a well known chain to hole up?I would hope they are pulling CC slips in EVERY hotel/motel and gasbar in a 75 mile radius.Or further, get reports on guests paying in cash.The perp also has to buy gas, and plenty of it.
1,196 posted on 10/11/2002 10:22:31 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Dog
No real opinion, but my gut says this is a homegrown wackjob.
1,197 posted on 10/11/2002 10:22:35 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: BuddhaBoy
Here come more charges that the killer is a Right Wing Racist Nut Case.

The are profiling the wrong people. Here is a sample from an al qaeda training manual just to show how cunning and well planned their mission are -- they work together in teams "the operative" and "the person conducting the surveillance". They conduct months of surveillance before an operation.

Surveillance by car requires taking certain measures:

1. Inspecting the car's fuel, water, and lights.

2. The car should be of a common type so it would not attract people's attention.

3. The car should be in good condition and the driver should be experienced.

4. The car plates should not contain real numbers. It is important to use a false license plate and small numbers in order to prevent anyone from spotting and memorizing it.

5. The car's interior light should be disabled in order to hide the identity of the surveillance team members sitting inside.

6. The number and appearance of the car surveillance team members should match those of the target's car.

Performing Surveillance by Car:

1. The car being used for surveillance should keep up with the target’s car during the surveillance operation, especially in crowded areas and on side streets. The distance between the two cars depends on the circumstances.

2. If the target gets out of his car and starts to walk, one of the surveillance team members should get out and observe him.

3. Follow all aforementioned measures for surveillance on foot.

Exercises to detect surveillance by car:

1. The surveillance car speeds up then stops suddenly while observing which other car is affected (this is done where there is not a lot of traffic).

2. The surveillance car enters a dead-end street.

3. The surveillance car goes in the opposite direction of traffic.

4. The surveillance car stops and goes backwards.

5. [The surveillance car] enters a parking lot and immediately goes out.

6. [The surveillance car] takes a side road and stops.

1,198 posted on 10/11/2002 10:22:45 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: relee
The media is raising the spector that 2 people in the van = terrrorism.
1,199 posted on 10/11/2002 10:22:46 AM PDT by OReilly
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To: All
Yes Whoraldo....we know it was a black man.....like it makes a friggin difference.
1,200 posted on 10/11/2002 10:23:36 AM PDT by Dallas
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