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To: #3Fan
First, you are pinging me to a reply that you are making to Andy_Card in a discussion that you two are engaged in. I will not be corralled into your and Andy_Card's discussion. Obviously you want to avoid continuing yours and my discussion. Why? Here's why...

In three separate posts you have made claims -- posts #272, 276 and 277. I have called you to back up each of those claims with facts. This makes the third time I have called on you to back up each of your three claims or admit your three errors or admit your errors and correct them. I will repost your claims and my response to each where I called you to back them up. Please back up your claims or admit your errors and correct them.

Claim 1:

#3Fan: You say that Christians have a tendency toward child abuse. 272

Zon: I challenge you to back up that claim with fact. 279

#3Fan: So you don't think Christianity is mysticism? 285

Zon: Stop obfuscating and prove your claim that you made in your # 272 post by providing facts to back up your claim. Or, admit your error and correct it. 294

Zon: I never said anything of the sort about Christians. So either back up your claim with facts or admit your error and correct it. 279

#3Fan: Christianity is more than mysticism in your view? You don't include Christians in your accusations of post #251? 285

Zon: Either prove your claim that you made in your # 272 post by providing facts, or admit your error and correct it. 294

Claim 2:

#3Fan: Zon got all self-righteous accusing Christians of the evil of child abuse. 276

Zon: I challenge you to back up that claim with fact. I never said anything of the sort about Christians. So either back up your claim with facts or admit your error and correct it. 280

#3Fan: You don't think Christianity is a form of mysticism? 286

Zon: You're still avoiding your responsibility to be honorable. Either prove your claim that you made in your #276 post by providing facts, or admit your error and correct it. 295

Claim 3:

#3Fan: Like it or not, Hitler and Stalin are very relevent to a atheist vs. Christion debate when the debate turns to crimes committed by each. Zon and Andy made the mistake of taking this argument in that direction and now they're getting nuked for it. 277

Zon: That's obvious. I speak for myself. I never brought Christians into the "debate", you injected Christians into the discussion. I never said anything about Christians. So either back up your claim with facts or admit your error and correct it. 281

#3Fan: So who's committing this child abuse? Witches? 287

Zon: You're still avoiding your responsibility to be honorable. Either prove your claim that you made in your #277 post by providing facts, or admit your error and correct it. When making errors, it is always the person that makes the error that benefits the most by correcting his or her own errors. 296


302 posted on 10/13/2002 9:02:22 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Zon
First, you are pinging me to a reply that you are making to Andy_Card in a discussion that you two are engaged in. I will not be corralled into your and Andy_Card's discussion. Obviously you want to avoid continuing yours and my discussion. Why? Here's why...

LOL OK Here's you're post #251:

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To: #3Fan

[#3Fan]For those that are so shallow that they need God to do magic tricks to prove His existence, prophesy is coming true.

[Zon]I can't fathom seeking tricks or any thing from nothing. I think it's debilitating to a person who seeks that which doesn't exist in reality and only in their mind. Right up their with Santa Clause, an Easter Bunny and tooth fairy.

[Zon continuing]Flying reindeer towing a fat man in a sleigh, an Easter bunny, tooth fairy and supernatural God. Such mysticism injected into innocent little minds striving to accurately identify reality in their formative years. Often looking up to their parents to confirm whether or not they have accurately identified reality. Those young innocent children betrayed in the name of fun and love. What causes such hideous child abuse? Mysticism: the number-one disease of the conscious mind.

251 posted on 10/12/02 9:19 PM Central by Zon [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 233 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

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Oh, how the mighty have fallen! You are reduced to pretending that post #251 doesn't exist but it's there for all to see. I think you've lost this war. LOL

303 posted on 10/13/2002 9:14:56 PM PDT by #3Fan
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