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To: SteveH
Flury-Lemberg questioned the relevance of findings by other researchers who discovered pollen and dust traceable to the Middle Ages on the cloth.

"Of course it had such particles on it," she said, "after all, the Shroud was exhibited a great deal in those days."

A great deal was made of the pollen and dust traceable to the middle ages as "proof" the shroud was a hoax. Flury-Lemberg's comment was one that should have been made when this "proof" was announced origionally.

But some people will do anything to destroy Christianity.

3 posted on 10/10/2002 2:45:08 AM PDT by Budge
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To: Budge
So if the Shroud of Turin is found to be a Middle-Ages hoax--which it almost certainly is--then Christianity is destroyed?

Gee, whatever happened to faith?

11 posted on 10/10/2002 3:48:40 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Budge
But some people will do anything to destroy Christianity.

Why do scientific theories have to be "Destroying Christianity"???

Scientists offer opinions...You've offered accusations...Not very "Christian" of you...

25 posted on 10/10/2002 4:43:43 AM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: Budge; All
Christianity rests on Christ, and Christ alone...and He will never be destroyed, so there is no need to fear shroud debunkers. Even if it is genuine, it is much less importance than the place Christ holds in our lives...

But for those who are interested, this is an excellent site...

http://www.shroud.com

28 posted on 10/10/2002 5:05:39 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Budge
Flury-Lemberg questioned the relevance of findings by other researchers who discovered pollen and dust traceable to the Middle Ages on the cloth.

"Of course it had such particles on it," she said, "after all, the Shroud was exhibited a great deal in those days."

This is a straw man argument... it is the wrong question and a non-sequitur.

It is NOT that there were "pollen and dust traceable to the Middle Ages on the cloth"... that is not unexpected... but rather that there were pollen and dust from the Middle EAST on the shroud... a place it could NEVER have been if it were a 13th Century forgery.

76 posted on 10/11/2002 2:19:11 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Budge
But some people will do anything to destroy Christianity.

And some people would just as soon get to the truth of a matter than to take a claim on it's face when it isn't a matter of faith. You know, like say for instance the "we have the chair of Peter" claim. If asking a group to prove it's claims on matters such as this amounts to destroying Christianity, then what is Christianity worth? My faith doesn't rest on trinkets, gimmicks and claims - it rests on God and HIS word. I'm a Christian and not threatened by such a pursuit of the truth - why is it that it so threatens you?

147 posted on 10/11/2002 7:18:58 PM PDT by Havoc
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To: Budge
Christianity isnt about a shroud.... I could care less if it was real or not, it is of the earth and not Heavenly...

People really should stop putting so much stock in an inanimate object that was never mentioned in scripture.

Proving this thing as a fake does nothing in regards to Christianity besides show how foolish people can be with placing so much value in it.
156 posted on 10/11/2002 7:44:00 PM PDT by smith288
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To: Budge
But some people will do anything to destroy Christianity."

Christianity is not about a shroud. The shroud is irrelevent to Christianity. Destroying an old or new shround for that matter, wouldn't matter to Christianity at all. Christianity is ALL about following the teachings of Christ. Not about objects or images. Recall the Ten Commandments and see what matters to God on that issue.

166 posted on 10/11/2002 8:53:54 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Budge
But some people will do anything to destroy Christianity.

Relax. "Christianity" does not depend on the validity of the Shroud of Turin.

Save your wrath for Socialist enemies of the religion like the National Council of Churches. They are a far greater threat.

183 posted on 10/12/2002 1:37:14 PM PDT by montag813
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