Posted on 10/09/2002 8:58:50 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative
It's not possible to take it "too far". She made a goofy statement that left no room for degrees. Then you say in "most cases", as if that was a choice.
She said;
The worst Republican is better than the best democrat.
IT is a blanket statement. It's goofy. It's childish. Anyone who agrees with it is those things too.
Apparently by that definition, I'm a liberal. And I thought I've been conservative all these years. The things you learn...
Oh, and believe me, sir, I'm not the one that looks foolish on this thread, and you can take that to the bank. It's neophytes like you that disrupt legitimate efforts to curb the left.
I didn't think it was necessary to write a dissertation for people to understand something so simple, but you have apparently proven the exception. My apologies to you for having made such a simplistic statement. However, I do not "live" on this forum and therefore do not have time to always write an essay to each and every response, especially those which a simple one or two line answer will suffice.
Needing votes to govern is a double-edged sword. I want Republicans to have my vote and all of the other conservative votes in America. But, if and only if, they will subscribe to and support the Contract with Congress. Are you afraid to ask your Republican candidates to support the Contract with Congress? Are you afraid that the candidate might refuse? If you understand and value the Constitution, if you have any appreciation at all for the freedom we once enjoyed but have now lost, if you know or understand what Democrats have done in destroying private property rights, if you know or appreciate how much wealth politicians including most elected Republicans today are stripping from your family and giving away to other voters only for the purpose of ensuring their own re-election, how can you with a clear conscience support the election of such a candidate.
America can change; but it will not if we do not demand it from Republican Candidates now and in every subsequent election. There are only going to be seven more elections held in the United States. The fourth election will be in 2008. After that it will not matter who wins or by how much, it will be too late to put our financial house in order. Every democracy in history has ended in bankruptcy. When the people learn they can raid the treasury and vote themselves benefits, bankruptcy is inevitable. It is happening here and now in the United States. Our clock will run out sometime between 2012 and 2016, unless we demand that all Republicans that want to win cater to the conservative wing of the Republican Party.
The only elections that Republicans have won and that mattered in the over all scope of preserving freedom were the elections where Republicans catered to the conservative wing. Maybe that would not be a bad thing now or in every other future election. The Republican won/loss record is not very good when they try to compete for liberal or "moderate" votes. I have been an active participant in every election since 1960 and Republican almost always lose when they ignore conservatives.
The old rules of etiquette are that you dance with the date that brung you, or you may not dance at all and your dating days could be over.
We will find common ground on the issues you mentioned in your last post.
You responded to a post I made to BA, who said, or inferrred that his vote was for sale and some republicans were not going to get it because the were not conservative in his eyes. I only pointed out the definitions of conservatism that I am familiar with.
The liberal interpretations by the supreme court are responsible for much of the BS we endure today. Now, with the loss of the Senate we are facing the possibility of a even more and solidly socialist court!
The Senate is key to the problem and the majority must be sufficient to get cloture!(60 votes)
A socially liberal republican who is fiscally conservative is not likely to stand in the way of a conservative court, since they run left to get elected and then move center.
To not vote for the republican on ideological grounds is to elect or make it more likely that the socialist will be elected. Even if the democrat pretends to be conservative they will vote the party line on most issues.
Son, you have delusions of adequacy. I was a neophyte when I was your age. Go back to class or video games or whatever you kids do when you aren't passing reading comprehension tests.
Ignorance is bliss!
Jim Jeffords was a 'pubbie. Chaffee (already threatening to follow Jeffords) is supposedly GOP, too. Olympia Snowe has an ACU rating under 30.
They're all better than Zell Miller? They're more respectable than Patrick Moynihan? They're all better representatives than (former Dem) Phil Gramm?
In general, generalizations never work. ;^)
Interesting that you can make a judgement call like that. Glad you have a lot of experience with local NC politicians seeing as you live in Arkansas. You already know they're liberal just by their party affiliation and you're over a 1000 miles away. What kind of crystal ball do you have to see this? Do they sell them in stores?
As I noted on the national level I DO vote for the Republican in most cases. If I don't, I will not vote for the Democrat, I just abstain. But of course I'm of the belief of overturning the 17th Amendment and returning the power to the state legislatures as established by the Founders (darn it, that must be liberal too)
But on the local level, I have voted for Democrats because in many parts of this state they're more conservative than the Republican candidate
Also equating the Republican party as empty suits is also ridiculous as well considering Republicans won every presidential election since WWII with the exception of JFK/LBJ (voter fraud in IL?) and Carter (Watergate fallout) and Clinton (Ross Perot the spoiler).
I think GWB has already made the Republican party even more popular (chance to increase in an off-year election no less) and going forward, I am looking forward to a landslide in 2004 with both houses of Congress on the coattails.
But maybe you can resurrect Ross or Pat or ? to help give us Hillary in 2008. Then you might see a real revolutionary war again.
The crystal ball is C-span 1&2 and the congressional websites. On C-span you see the floor speakers say what they believe in and the web sites show how they voted. Ya need to look and see for yourself that on the major issues, most dems hang together like a bunch of grapes. Regardless of the consequences of the faulty legislation or the good legislation whos only fault is that it was initiated by a republican.
Go see for yourself.
I asked that question way back at the beginning and I got another screed but no listing of candidates that we all should run out and trip over trying to vote for. I'm assuming he's asked all the pertinient questions he's posing and thus has the list readily available.
Instead I got the following type answer:
Another one of those dummy type post.... Oh well, he at least has a place to post his rants as long as the donations keep coming in.
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