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Maryland Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary
Fox, CNN, Press Conferences | October 9, 2002 | Fox, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/09/2002 3:14:53 AM PDT by Peach

Another press conference due soon. To avoid multiple vanity threads regarding any news that comes from press conferences, thought we'd keep a live commentary thread going again today.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; maryland; sniper; terrorism
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To: alrea
which is obviously so silly that it may be planted to divert. or encourage a claim of responsibility.

What is so silly? Who's claim of responsibility?

701 posted on 10/09/2002 1:26:25 PM PDT by OReilly
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To: aj1
I'm wondering if there might have been a Sept. 13th shooting which would have been Friday the 13th.

Or maybe the next one will be on the 13th? Been quiet (thankfully) since Monday!

702 posted on 10/09/2002 1:27:51 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: nicks bad seed
Just did a quick search:

Try this

or this

Don't have time to look for more but I'm sure if you do a Google search you'll find many more

703 posted on 10/09/2002 1:28:33 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: Fellow Traveler; All
Did a Google search on "Dear Mr. Policeman" and the results were quite interesting:

Check out this chatboard!

And this "Dear Mr. Policeman" series...

704 posted on 10/09/2002 1:40:29 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: OReilly
which is obviously so silly that it may be planted to divert. or encourage a claim of responsibility.

What is so silly? Who's claim of responsibility?
Planted by whom, the police?
Planted to divert what, or whom?
Are you saying this was just another screen test 'gone wrong' for The Moose?

705 posted on 10/09/2002 1:44:34 PM PDT by OReilly
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To: Lord Marshal
That's what he saw in the movies, and to the novice, the Death Card has to be the Scariest! Yes, the Death card just means a new beginning. The REAL death card is the Queen of Swords.
706 posted on 10/09/2002 1:46:10 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Peach
"It was 6:14 a.m. EST (I think the display shows Pacific time). Fun reading posts - just make a cup of tea and get that mouse ready for a good scroll"

LOL...it took an hour, but I got caught up...hopefully I'll get right up to the very last page...as long as I quit posting replies until I get there...willpower...willpower...

707 posted on 10/09/2002 1:49:39 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: KsSunflower; aj1
I posted some links (#704). Thought you might be interested.
708 posted on 10/09/2002 1:50:13 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
That post fits things to a T!!!
709 posted on 10/09/2002 1:51:19 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: OReilly
Hope you don't mind...Sent you a freepmail.
710 posted on 10/09/2002 1:54:11 PM PDT by Route66
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To: ET(end tyranny)
I think you may be right. It made me recall a picture in a c. 1850 book I have..about Mohammed, Muslims, etc..

The summary of the picture is: A Muslim warrior with a sword in one hand and the Koran in the other.

Sac

711 posted on 10/09/2002 1:54:59 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Gritty
The school shooting could be a copycat with a similar calibre weapon or maybe even a false flag operation.

Except that they claim that they have a bullet match between the Monday shooting and several of the others.

712 posted on 10/09/2002 1:55:01 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Do you think you should find a way to get that site to LE? That may be vital information.
713 posted on 10/09/2002 1:56:03 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: archy
He was 19 at the time he committed those murders with Carol Ann Fugate.

And he shortly had a date with Old Sparky. Most states think themselves too "civilized" for that approach these days. I tend to think that sparky was even more of a deterent than the rope that preceded it, and way, way more of one than an injection that causes the subject to drift off into the "endless sleep".

714 posted on 10/09/2002 2:01:42 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Here's the post from your second link:

-- Posted by Wayne Hicks on 7:43 pm on May 28, 2001

Maybe this should be sent to all our badge-wearing friends and family members...

Dear Peace Officer:

I don't want to kill you. I don't even want to wound you. I admire your courage and the commitment you've made to help others, often at the risk of your own life. I hope you won't come for me, because if you do, one of us will die. It may be you. I've done nothing wrong. I don't intend to. But the government that you serve has passed too many laws. I am sure to accidentally break one, some day. And that same government is systematically destroying the unalienable rights which our Constitution says may not be infringed - very specifically, my right to keep and bear arms.

I am not some wacko lunatic, but I can no longer stand idly by, while decent people are systematically enslaved by an out-of-control government. I cannot allow a corrupt judiciary to use its power to destroy my rights and my country. That government and that judiciary has begun to use you to arrest and kill people just like me - people who believe that the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights mean what they say.

You don't know me, but you see me every day. I may be a businessman, a truck driver, an executive. I could be a housewife or a salesman. But I am armed, as Americans have been for over 250 years, and I am determined to keep the freedoms that only an armed people may retain. With a rifle, I can hit a man-sized target at 800 yards. At shorter distances, in the blink of an eye, I can hit a head-size target with a handgun. I don't wear a uniform. I don't drive a marked car. I don't wear camouflage. I could be your own secretary, or your barber. I might be the guy who delivers your bottled water, or the parcel delivery lady. You don't know who I am, or what arms I have, and you never will. I am millions. I am America.

But I know you. I know your uniform, your car, and your work schedule. I know where you work, and where you live. And that is good for you, because not only am I no threat to you, so long as you do the job for which you are hired, I am also prepared to assist you when you are threatened. There aren't many of me left, you may think, but believe me, there are many, many more than you can imagine. When the chips are down, we are the ones who are truly on your side. On your side, that is, so long as you honor your Oath.

We are on your side if you are one of the majority of peace officers who are not corrupt and who have not sold out to the socialists and communists who will do anything, say anything to destroy the America our fathers and grandfathers bequeathed us. No, I am no threat to you, but your bosses in government don't see it that way. They think that I, and my arms, are a threat to them, and they are planning to send you for me, just as they've sent armed, dangerous officers on select little missions for years, taking out targeted individuals. On their orders, you may succeed in murdering me for my beliefs. Or you may not.

Whether or not you succeed in murdering me, as federal agents murdered Vicki Weaver in Idaho; or as those same federal agents murdered 81 men, women and children at Waco, Texas; there will be others who will rise up in my memory, as I now rise up in honor of the innocent lives taken by the jack-booted thugs and black-clad imitation ninjas who think it is fun to murder Americans -who have somehow become convinced that it is their job to murder Americans.

I am prepared to die, honoring my sacred Oath as an American, to defend and protect the Constitution of the united States of America. Are you prepared to die to violate the Oath you took? You see, our government is out of control. You know it. You've seen it. But you, like many others, have been too concerned with your job, your family, and your pension, to say or do anything about it. Deep down, you know I am right. But you think you must follow orders.

Or must you? Are you going to murder me for having the courage to stand up for the country and the principles in which you believe? Are you going to go along with unconscionably illegal, unconstitutional orders, just as the "good" German soldiers followed their orders? Are you going to be a peace officer or a jack-booted thug? There is little difference between a street outlaw who murders and robs; and a uniformed thug who murders and robs under color of law. The result is the same. Property confiscated, lives ruined, families ripped apart, murder committed, and a free nation destroyed.

Look at history. Look around the world. As we move toward a lawless society, our country moves closer and closer to anarchy and then some form of fascism. Are you going to enforce unconstitutional laws? Are you going to be the private army of fascist dictators masquerading as democratic representatives? Or are you going to do your part to recapture America? Are you going to keep your eyes and ears open? Will you let me know when the jack-booted thugs in the SWAT teams have targeted me? Will you let your fellow officers know that they are being sold down the river by their corrupt masters? Don't come to kill me. Because I don't want to kill you. If you do come, you may succeed - if you get lucky. But don't count on luck, because it will probably be hard - damned hard. Like millions of other Americans, I am the son or daughter of a nation of riflemen - citizen-soldiers who have a rich heritage of beating the best the enemy can send against us. We are resourceful. We understand weapons and tactics. You are foolish if you intend to be our enemy. If you don't succeed in the long run, and you won't, here's what you can expect:

Ambushes of SWAT teams; the wholesale slaughter of all the jack-booted thugs who have murdered innocent Americans on the orders of their socialist masters; targeted assassinations and kidnappings of anti-Constitution judges; assassinations of anti-American, anti-gun politicians.

By your willingness to be a good little Nazi, you will have unleashed a civil war. It doesn't have to be that way. You can do something about it. It's easy. Read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Although you took an Oath to defend them, you don't see much of them in your training, do you? Today, these documents are considered dangerous by the government, just as King George found them dangerous over 200 years ago. Why do you suppose your leaders lead you to oppose the very rights you swore to protect? Why do they want a disarmed public? You know the reason. It has nothing to do with controlling crime. It has everything to do with using you to disarm, fine and control your fellow American Citizens.

Don't fall for it. Don't force me to kill you.

(Signed, 100 Million Real Americans)

Did a search on Wayne Hicks.

Wayne Hicks

Click on MATAH when at the above site.

MATAH

715 posted on 10/09/2002 2:04:32 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Do you think you should find a way to get that site to LE? That may be vital information.

Yes, that was some creepy post!...As for getting that site to LE, my guess is they probably already know about it by now. I'm sure they thought of doing the same search I did. I'll repost both links for other lurkers just in case:

Check out this chatboard!

And this "Dear Mr. Policeman" series...

716 posted on 10/09/2002 2:04:33 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: OReilly
FOX News just reported something going on in the Rockville area.People told not to leave a building because of a security concern.Anyone in the area with local access to news know what is happening?
717 posted on 10/09/2002 2:07:42 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: tacticalogic
"For all we know the shooter is reading this thread right now, and getting off on it. This may be exactly the kind of attention they crave"

Possibly...or he's watching the news like they used to do, and getting off on the media speculation.

718 posted on 10/09/2002 2:08:04 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Dead Dog
If it is a white male gun enthusiast, then we all become a "public threat".

Apparently, in this case they've been able to get search warrants based on nothing more than "subject thought to own guns" (he did, but had nothing to do with the case, AFAIK) and happens to live in the general vicinity of the school shooting, about 2 miles IIRC.

719 posted on 10/09/2002 2:08:30 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Sacajaweau
Anyone know where I can see the photo of this Tarot Card he left behind.
720 posted on 10/09/2002 2:09:21 PM PDT by Dog
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