Maryland Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary

Fox, CNN, Press Conferences | October 9, 2002 | Fox, CNN, Press Conferences

[Peach]

Another press conference due soon. To avoid multiple vanity threads regarding any news that comes from press conferences, thought we'd keep a live commentary thread going again today.

[antivenom]

	HE has ADMITTED HE IS G-D!!!  He was at the "Gates of Heaven" He has sent the letter I predicted, he is taunting the police...the real fun begins with him...he is NOT interested in the death count he WANTS and CRAVES the cat and mouse game with the police. He started his shooting at a cemetery with a HUGE outline of a CROSS.  First shot fired at a store...named Michaels (arch angel???) shot most likely fired from the "symbolic" cemetery  (GATE OF HEAVEN) that has a CROSS in the center of it. RED circle represents 900 ft diamter - see scale in the upper right hand corner in all little maps. WEDNESDAY  -  October 2 first of two shootings 5:20 PM
	Second shot FIRST victim - safety of a park again? WEDNESDAY October 2  -  second of two shootings    6:04 PM
	Third shot - 2nd victim - the "comfort of a park??? THURSDAY October 3  -  FIRST shooting  7:41 AM
	Fourth shot - 3rd victim - BACK at the first scene...is it symbolic? "Gate of Heaven"??? Felt safe there? Wanted to practice LONGER range shots??? THURSDAY October 3 -   second shooting  8:12 AM Following these Scriptural passages, Christian tradition gives to St. Michael four offices: To fight against Satan. To rescue the souls of the faithful from the power of the enemy, especially at the hour of death. To be the champion of God's people, the Jews in the Old Law, the Christians in the New Testament; therefore he was the patron of the Church, and of the orders of knights during the Middle Ages. To call away from earth and bring men's souls to judgment ("signifer S. Michael repraesentet eas in lucam sanctam", Offert. Miss Defunct. "Constituit eum principem super animas suscipiendas", Antiph. off. Cf. "Hermas", Pastor, I, 3, Simil. VIII, 3).
	Fifth shot - 4th victim - hmmmm 2 parks to pick from....3 THURSDAY October 3 -  third shooting  8:37 AM
	Sixth shot - 5th victim- Parks near by but suspect shots were fired from the railway tracks...possible walked from one of the parks. Suspect probably has a knapsack and field strips the gun to conceal it ??? THURSDAY October 3 -  fourth shooting (another PERP that doesn't need to use a park???) 9:58 AM
	Seventh shot - sixth victim- walking near a ....PARK! THURSDAY October 3 fifth shooting  -  9:20 PM
	Friday Ocytober 4  -  - one assault victim - out of state...seems to break pattern...BUT the target has shot victim at a Michaels store...wonder about the surroundings...wonder if area is surrounded by trees to allow "cover", I suspect entrance to the area was alond the stream/river from I-95 heading WNW towards the red star.  (another PERP that doesn't need to use a park???)    Differnet ammo? Has he altered the lead prior to shooting to make the lead distort?
	MONDAY October 7  -  - one assault victim - BACK to the "park" pattern. Dear Policeman, I am G-d.  Found in the vicintity of this shooting...he has begun the public taunt. Differnet ammo? Has he altered the lead prior to shooting to make the lead distort? Tuesday October 8  -  NO SHOOTINGS - Wednesday October 9 -  We wait...SCHOOL OUT in Montgomery County...teachers meeting day.
Wed? or Tues? note was left?   Dear Policeman, I am G-d.	XIII Death A card that may inspire fear when drawn, this is not a augery of death as literal ending of life, but rather, signals a time of endings and beginnings, and the path of life itself... The image shows a pilgrim on a lonely path of self-knowledge, courageously moving through one gate of transformation after another, steadily placing one foot before the other... accepting changes as they come, casting away what weighs her down on her journey, so that she may move forward into the new, unencumbered by fear, regret or sorrow...   It is time to see what changes are before you, and to be willing to walk through your own gates of transformation...

[M. T. Cicero II]

After watching all the shows on criminology, etc. This is exactly what to do. Leave a tarot card! Gather fuzz and hair and cigarette butts from everywhere!

He's a white/black/american indian who smokes the filter ends of Kool milds and English Ovals, wears lipstick, an Alpaca farmer, who keeps Great Danes and poodles, has 30 cats, wears one Doc Martin on the right foot and one Wall-Mart bedroom slipper on the left foot,spray paints stuff with Krylon zirconium primer...well you get the picture.

[ET(end tyranny)]

E.D. is bringing up John Walsh to negate Chief Moose's comments that the media need to be more careful regarding their reporting and in particular the release of the tarot card as evidence. Her point is that it is through television/media that John Walsh's show has captured so many criminals. She has a point, but, the media is a good medium through which to release INFORMATION to the public versus releasing EVIDENCE (the tarot card) to the public.

I think Edie was using Walsh as a cover. He's been successful in getting the word out about criminals and capturing them. However in this instance the media has released vital information that wasn't supposed to be given out and may have hampered the investigation. Walsh imo, would NEVER do that.

She seemed to be trying to defend the irresponsible behavior of the media by grabbing at Walsh's success as an excuse.

[Peach]

Good work, antivemon. Glad you provided info on times because I messed up yesterday on whether the first shooting was a.m. or p.m. Selfishly, I pray the shooter is NOT a Christian nut with a gun, because the liberal media will be unbearable to listen to and I'll have to start watching soap operas instead.

[Lil'freeper]

On one of the original threads on this topic, a question was asked: Where is the MD governer? Well, the moron only showed up to 'speak to the people of Maryland' after Pres. Bush issued a letter of condolences. Now it appears keeping Glendenning silent was a pretty good idea to begin with.

[antivenom]

Domestic violence...

[1234]

...There is a large Irish Traveler group living in Augusta, GA, 20 minutes from my home, and they are sometimes mistaken for being Hispanic....

i cannot understand this statement: PLS, what is an "Irish Traveler"?

[kaylar]

Another failed artist, like Hitler? More likely, he's the son (or they're sons) of fairly affluent people. Mom's a SAHM who can afford to waste time and money on the overpriced stuff at Michael's , and his hatred of his mother is reflected in his targeting of the kind of places at which she shopped.

I agree that the tarot card makes a Muslim terrorist less likely. Unless he's diabolically clever and used it to throw the police off, Muslims are not supposed to use anything to predict the future. It's an insult to Allah, who is a giant global slaveowner who controls everything. There is no 'fate' or 'chance' or even rational cause and effect, it's all in the hands of Allah. Yeah, I know, the 9-11 guys weren't supposed to be going to titty bars either, but anyway...Homegrown loser of fairly high socioeconomic background now seems more likely, IF the taro tcard is indeed from the shooter.

[who knows what evil?]

It has also effectively ended the speculation about terrorism.

I see someone else noticed that.

[Peach]

She seemed to be trying to defend the irresponsible behavior of the media by grabbing at Walsh's success as an excuse.

I totally agree, that's why I said the media is a good medium to release INFORMATION to the public versus EVIDENCE to the public. It was not a particularly good or pertinent analogy.

[freeperfromnj]

Hope someone asks, just to clarify, whether the card said God or Allah.

Good question. The moon is quite symbolic in tarot card reading. The freeper who drafted the crescent moon from the killing map may not have been so far off the mark. The death card - death to who? Death to men? women? children? the elderly? whites? blacks? hispanics? asians? Or simply put -- death to Americans. I wouldn't so readily dismiss the recent al qaeda threats. Who ever is doing this is a ruthless trained killer, such as one might find in a training camp in Afghanistan

[antivenom]

Remember my post yesterday that the sniper would leave a message..to a paper, police...well well well...BINGO!

~AV's~ Gut Feeling

Damn I wonder if Montgomery County police department pays well...?

[Peach]

Sorry I wasn't clear; hadn't had first cup of tea yet and it generally takes two to get me going and even then it's iffy. After reading this morning that a tarot card was found at the school shooting, I thought of Irish Travelers, who often use tarot cards. IT's are commonly referred to as gypsies. They are typically swarthy skinned and after reading so many posts yesterday that police may be targeting Hispanic looking men driving white box cars, I thought perhaps an Irish Traveler could be mistaken by a witness as Hispanic looking. Hope that's clearer than my previous post!

[relee]

September 29th is ST. MICHAEL, ST. GABRIEL and ST. RAPHAEL day.


http://www.daughtersofstpaul.com/saintday/m9.html#BM29

[Merovingian]

Very interesting...I had posted my theory about the new sony game before I heard Mike Buchanan give his exclusive report last night...As soon as I saw what he had written..'I am God'...and then read Pete's response about the Navy Seals movie sniper having the nickname of GOD, I really felt there could be a definite connection..

Now, if the Tarot thing is accurate, and if the words on the card mean anything, the next victim should be a priest...who is the 'King'...??

Also heard a brief report on last night's local news that at one point during the day yesterday, MOOSE had requested 'EXTRA' security during his press conf...hmmm...did he have knowledge of the Tarot thing, and did he wonder if HE might be the 'King'...??

[bvw]

Yeah but was the death card reversed? Changes the meaning.

Nice maplettes.

[Consort]

The sniper has been reading to many Stephen Hunter books. It's time to put Bob Lee Swagger on the case.

[ET(end tyranny)]

Every time I read 'Gate of Heaven'.. I think of those Heaven's Gate cult that committed suicide when Hale Bopp went over, thinking it was some UFO and the would ascend up to it!

[Quilla]

Awesome effort, thank you.

[NCLou]

I think you are right, that this was intentionally leaked. It's a subtle plea for help by the police to the public. It means that they have zero strong leads at this point.

If that is the case, the "I am God" thing is most certainly innacurate or incomplete. I bet that it either says something quite the opposite, like "I am Satan," or something much more rational. The idea is to try to flush him out into more communication, in an effort to get his "real story" out. He may not want to be portrayed as a "nut case", or a believer in God, so he might contact the press this time. That can be helpful, remember the Unabomber.

It also plays into the usual serial killer attitude that the police are inept and can't catch him (they couldn't even get the message right), which may cause him to be less circumspect in the future.

Finally, everyone in the area is now thinking about every Tarot-obsessed weirdo they might have come in contact with recently.

Yesterday on another thread I predicted that he would begin to communicate with the police or media, not knowing he already had. Now I expect that he will step up communication to include the media next, in an effort to set his story straight.