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Fox News says Supreme Court Allows Lautenberg!
Posted on 10/07/2002 10:53:40 AM PDT by Howlin
It's done!
TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: benny; corpse; election; forrester; gulla; lautenberg; nj; oldfart; oldman; senate
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To: ELS
I am soooooooooo Disgusted.
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posted on
10/07/2002 11:41:22 AM PDT
by
hobbes1
To: Howlin
If the good folks from NooJoisey allow the RATS to get away with this by electing Lautenburg, they oughtta be as ashamed as the Noo Yawk DOLTS who elected the HildaBeast and the Arkansas HAYSEEDS who inflicted the EX-Rapist-in-Chief upon America!!
FReegards...MUD
To: Bill Davis FR
The NJ Supreme Court is liberal in the extreme; It forced the rollover legislature to pass an income tax, it forced non-dead towns to pay for low income housing, it forced the taxpayers to pay for new schools for those perpetually in need in addition to having been already forced to pay 75- 90 percent of there operating costs. This state needs a real revolt.
To: Inspectorette
This may be a blessing in disguise. Someone said that to Winston Churchill after an election setback. His response: "It seems quite effectively disguised at the moment."
I'm having trouble finding any good news here. We'll be left to cry "Where's the outrage?" as Bob Dole did in 1996. It didn't work then, and it's not likely to work now.
To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I was expecting this. In the Presidential Election it was a matter of a FEDERAL Election. This is a State matter.
Federal Election laws don't apply to Senatorial candidates?
I think Congress should test that theory with legislation making it a felony for judges to tamper with federal elections from the bench.
Article I, Section 4 of the US Constitution states:
The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations, except as to the places of choosing Senators.
The final clause about "the places of choosing Senators" referred to the earlier prqactice of Senators being chosen by legislatures rather than by general elections, and has been superseded by the 17th Amendment:
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislatures. When vacancies happen in the representation of any state in the Senate, the executive authority of such state shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, that the legislature of any state may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.
This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.
To: billbears
Article I, Section 4, US Constitution:
The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations, except as to the places of choosing Senators. (emphasis added)
Sure sounds like Congress would trump the state legislature. Of course, since the state judiciary has just been given a role not given to it by either the Constitution or the bodies that the Constitution gave this role to, what good is the Constitution?
To: Howlin
The next time any Democrat even mentions the word "Constitution" or the phrase "...rule of law", shout, "You mean, like IN NEW JERSEY?" There is no reason to believe ANYTHING any Democrat says regarding any law, rule, ethic, right, or agreement, since they have abandoned the last tiny shred of credibility they once clung to so tenaciously. Simply say "There is no reason to believe you" when confronted with any kind of Democrat rhetoric or propaganda. Democrats = Outlaws
To: Sabertooth; Congressman Billybob
I knew we'd get screwed. Billybob still owes me an apology.
To: steveegg
Had the statute regarding ballot vacancies read something like "...no less than 51 days prior to the election except in cases that the judiciary may see fit....",Mr. Egg...wrong. The Judicial Review of legislative statute is now part of the structure of the government. There is even a precedent on this law anyway where a candidate died, and was replaced within the 51 day window. So there are uncontested exceptions, and if the legislature wants to weigh in for next time, they will. (probably won't) So goes liberal interpretations by courts.
To: Howlin
It's not the Democratic party anymore. The Clinton virus has infected the body politic,and the Democratic party shall be know forever more as the Clinton party.
Bill from NJ.
To: b4its2late; Howlin
It's just given the green light to the rest of the slugs that'll try it down the road. Rush is ranting right now about the McKinney loss - the Rats are saying that Republican crossover votes were illegal!
To: Howlin
This should have never been appealed to SCOTUS !
Now the Pubs have no issue against Lautenberg !
BUMP
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posted on
10/07/2002 11:44:28 AM PDT
by
tm22721
To: Theodore R.
All of Lautenberg's past won't matter because the people of NJ don't know anything about Lautenberg anyway. Then it is up to Forrester and the NJ Republican Party to tell them.
Play time is over, and it is time to kick some 'Rat butt. Forrester defeated Torricelli, and now it is time for him to defeat Lautenberg, too.
Forrester has to start making some waves. He needs to put himself on the front page of every paper, and get the 'Rats off. Something along the lines of getting in Lautenberg's face and saying, "I'm gonna kick your butt, old man!" The time for civility and Marquis de Queensbury rules is long since over (if it was ever here, when it comes to stompin' 'Rats).
To: hchutch
New name for the NJSC.......SCONJili........
To: wingnuts'nbolts
People in NJ believe in "democracy," and to them "democracy" means the liberal Democrats. They know nothing else. They couldn't tell you two things about Lautenberg, but they will vote for him because "at least" he is not a Republican. There is nothing in the NJ record to render any hope for a Republican upset victory.
To: wilmington2
This decision will have negative economic consequences in New Jersey. Why should any deadline mean squat in any contract?
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posted on
10/07/2002 11:45:25 AM PDT
by
mwl1
To: mwl1
Since Doug Forrester is now behind Lautenberg in the polls, the NJ Republican Party ought to use the Toricelli rule to replace him with Tony Soprano, then Lautenberg will withdraw without a replacement for health reasons..
To: Cyber Liberty
I knew we'd get screwed. If you think YOU'RE getting screwed, Imagine being at the point of insertion.
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posted on
10/07/2002 11:45:40 AM PDT
by
hobbes1
To: Dog
>>When that sleazy SOB lied to that federal grand jury.... and they defended it .....is the day the rule of law died in this country!!!!!!!!!!!<<
Until today, this was technically a local issue. It is now national.
I no longer feel bound by the rule of law. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to go out on a shooting spree or bank robbing spree. But those "how to live your life" laws, like speed limits, jay-walking, taxes, traffic lights, handicapped parking, helmets, land use etc. no longer apply. The risk of getting caught is all that will stop me, when the risk seems great (like there is a cop right there).
Since there really is no longer a rule of law, it's all just a game now.
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posted on
10/07/2002 11:46:17 AM PDT
by
RobRoy
To: Inspectorette
This may be a blessing in disguise. Lautenberg is going to prove to be a lousy candidate. His own words and record can now be used against him, i.e., that Fenwick was too old when he ran against her (she was six years younger than he is now);his reneging on the 21 debates, the fact that he decided not to run again because he was fed up, etc., etc., etc. Doesn't matter. NJ is predominately dimoRat. Were it not for his eggregious criminal acts, Toricelli would have beaten Forrester hands down. The 'pubs are right to fold this hand and divert funding to other winable races. NJ is a lost cause, and I frankly don't care what NJ does to it's future, but the precedent that the SCONJ and SCOUS has allowed is VERY damaging. This is a bad day for the Republic.
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