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Southpark Republicans
Tech Central Station ^ | October 7, 2002 | Stephen W. Stanton

Posted on 10/06/2002 11:52:53 PM PDT by HAL9000

Picture a typical Republican. Perhaps you see images of George Bush, John Ashcroft, Ronald Reagan, or maybe even Alex P. Keaton. Basically, many people think Republicans are a bunch of stodgy white guys with money.

Times are changing. The Republican A-list now includes Colin Powell, Christie Whitman, J.C. Watts, and Condoleeza Rice. Women and minorities have been making great strides in the party, but they generally dress, talk, and act like their predecessors. You are more likely to find them at a formal reception than a rock concert.

If Republicans are so different from mainstream America, then who voted for them? The nation has more Republican congressmen and state governors than any other political party, plus control of the White House. There are not enough Alex P. Keatons to account for these election results. Our nation is among the most diverse on earth. Half of the voters are women, a quarter are minorities. There are millions of union workers, retirees, immigrants, government workers, customer service employees, and individuals in low paying jobs, unemployed or on some form of public assistance. All of these groups are expected to lean left. Surely, the stodgy, affluent, religious white guys are outnumbered in the electorate by a huge margin. Yet Republicans candidates still do well. How is that possible?

The answer could very well be the "Southpark Republicans." The name stems from the primetime cartoon "Southpark" that clearly demonstrates the contrast within the party. The show is widely condemned by some moralists, including members of the Christian right. Yet in spite of its coarse language and base humor, the show persuasively communicates the Republican position on many issues, including hate crime legislation ("a savage hypocrisy"), radical environmentalism, and rampant litigation by ambitious trial lawyers. In one episode, industrious gnomes pick apart myopic anti-corporate rhetoric and teach the main characters about the benefits of capitalism.

Southpark Republicans are true Republicans, though they do not look or act like Pat Robertson. They believe in liberty, not conformity. They can enjoy watching The Sopranos even if they are New Jersey Italians. They can appreciate the tight abs of Britney Spears or Brad Pitt without worrying about the nation's decaying moral fiber. They strongly believe in liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, and free markets. However, they do not live by the edicts of political correctness.

The Southpark Republicans are an incredibly diverse group encompassing a variety of nontraditional conservatives, such as the Terminator, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Bruce Willis supported Republicans because of their commitment to lower taxes and fiscal discipline. Rap artist and movie actor LL Cool J recently endorsed NY governor George Pataki.

The most important Southpark Republicans are not famous. They are the millions of people of every age, race, sex, and religion that generally agree that government spending is usually not the best way to deal with the nation's problems. Many of these individuals can tell you why Ayn Rand should displace some other authors in high school literature classes. They know firsthand from endless hours at the DMV, at the post office, and preparing income tax forms that government wastes time and money. They know a nation cannot tax its way to greatness.

If he were alive today, John F. Kennedy could very well be a Southpark Republican. He rightly proclaimed, "An economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget—just as it will never produce enough jobs or profits." You read that right. JFK was a supply-side tax cutter. His alleged private exploits would place him squarely within the Southpark wing of the Republican Party.

Sound farfetched? There have been many Democrats that changed parties. Ronald Reagan, Senator Phil Gramm, and Mayor Mike Bloomberg were all once Democrats that became Republicans. The Democratic Party moved left, and the people that stood in the same place increasingly found their views shared by the elephants of the GOP. But not all elephants belong in the same herd. Pat Buchanan pushes a Christian/protectionist agenda that has absolutely nothing in common with the Libertarian folks who support free trade and complete separation of church and state. Depending on whom you ask, "Conservative" can mean smaller government of lower hemlines. (Hint: Southpark Republicans are more likely to get Cosmo than the Weekly Standard.)

The Southpark Republicans are not new, though they may now be more vocal. The party finally seems willing to embrace members that listen to the hard rock and rap music long denounced by the old guard. Heck, even vegetarians are welcome.

The media generally misrepresents Republicans as religious rich white males. This is patently false. Half of the voting public is Republican. They watch R rated movies, enjoy a few drinks at happy hour, and even go to the occasional Wrestlemania. Hopefully, the Southpark Republicans will shatter the unfair stereotype and set the record straight. As Cartman would say, "That would be pretty sweet."



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: neoconservative; republicans; rino; southpark; southparkrepublicans
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To: Norwell
The presidential election was won by less than 200 votes. At this time with the country in the mid point of a major transition no group is too small to matter. As the author points out, if the GOP were primarily a white Christian party it would be toast, that's just not a large enough percentage of America to win elections by its self. This group is the Reagan-type candidates. People that in some ways were associated with the Democratic Party and liberalism but have seen things change over there and can't take it any more. Welcome to changing times, the definitions of 20 or even 40 years ago simply don't work any more. Things change, the definition of positions change. Remember, the GOP started the first conservation movement in this country. The world's not made of single issue voters.
61 posted on 10/07/2002 9:54:10 AM PDT by discostu
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To: BlueLancer; Billthedrill
Wow who'd a thunk, the son of Marines gettin' back up by the Navy. The Marines and the Navy never work together. /smiling sarcasm

Thanks sailors.
62 posted on 10/07/2002 9:58:13 AM PDT by discostu
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To: steve-b
Should I have written about Bill Schneider Steve? Do you know of anybody who writes for the popular press and touches on demographics aside from Sowell and Wattenberg? It certainly would not be Buckley, Will or Rusher. Nope, the only two I know happen to be a black (Republican?) and Jewish Democrat. I am sure you are no doubt familiar with them all.

Since you familiar with Sowell's work you know he writes extensively of destructive social patterns of the racial group of which he is a member. There is not a whole lot of irony there. Certainly no more than if I referenced Stephanie Guttman and Kate O'Bierne in outlining a case opposing women in combat.

63 posted on 10/07/2002 10:03:14 AM PDT by Norwell
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To: discostu
Close ... I did two years at the Naval Academy but did 20 in the Army.

(It does kind of make it hard to decide who to root for when the Army/Navy football game comes around though.)

64 posted on 10/07/2002 10:03:53 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: discostu
Most of them disagreed with Reagan on social issues, but they were tired of their paycheck belonging to the government.

Methinks Norwell is the only person in the country who has never heard of "Reagan Democrats".

65 posted on 10/07/2002 10:06:02 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: Bella_Bru
The two best parts of that episode were when Chef pushed them out of his house while still sitting on his couch, and when he later showed up at their house with luggage, cash, and plane tickets out of the country.


Simpson's Did It!

66 posted on 10/07/2002 10:13:36 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Norwell
As I said, your milage may vary. It was Reagan's fyscal conservatism that drew my family across. Reagan did a lot of reaching, I htink we're both focusing on the part that spoke to us the most. But notice Reagan didn't put into law any of his social conservatism (IMHO becuase most of it shouldn't be a matter of law, it's just how things should work in our society). The fyscal conservatism became a matter of law. From my seat the reason he almost beat Ford was because Ford schlumped through most of the primaries, and the election (until the last couple weeks, which was almost enough to beat Carter). Also Ford symbolized Viet Nam and Watergate, to episodes people really wanted to put behind them. I've long been of the opinion that the GOP threw the 76 election. Nixon era price controls were starting to have their impact on the economy, the press had quite effectively laid Viet Nam at Nixon's feet, everything was a mess. 1976 to 1980 were already staged to suck rocks, better to have it under a Democrat (who miraculously found a way to make things worse, Carter has hidden talents) and let a GOP pres ride in and save the day.

I think a demographic study would back up this article quite thuroughly. A quick perusal of FR shows it. There's a significant body of people on FR that watch South Park, listen to heavy metal, and might even purvey smut once in a while. Yet they're GOP all the way. It's a much bigger group than you think. It has to be.
67 posted on 10/07/2002 10:14:05 AM PDT by discostu
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To: discostu
I thought Bush actually lost the popular vote.

I did not write any group was too small or that the Republicans should forfeit the Roukma-Republican vote. I think the author is writing from anecdotal experience and Bill Schneider is writing with the demographic knowledge of a polster. Schneider views the election in terms of ethnicity and religion, primarily. With some exceptions, white areas are strongly republican. Almost without exception, nonwhite areas (to include Indian reservations) vote democrat.

68 posted on 10/07/2002 10:14:31 AM PDT by Norwell
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To: discostu
There's a significant body of people on FR that watch South Park, listen to heavy metal, and might even purvey smut once in a while.

I could be the poster child!

And let us not forget that we are also Simpson's fans.

69 posted on 10/07/2002 10:15:23 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: BlueLancer
Silly me, I spotted the Naval Academy thing in your profile, completely missed the 12th Cav stuff.

Either way your teams wins.

Thanks for your service, stay well.
70 posted on 10/07/2002 10:18:29 AM PDT by discostu
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To: Norwell
Frequency of "South Park" viewing was not examined.

The article wasn't saying that all "southpark republicans" watch southpark.

From the article:

...Yet in spite of its coarse language and base humor, the show persuasively communicates the Republican position on many issues, including hate crime legislation ("a savage hypocrisy"), radical environmentalism, and rampant litigation by ambitious trial lawyers. In one episode, industrious gnomes pick apart myopic anti-corporate rhetoric and teach the main characters about the benefits of capitalism....They strongly believe in liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, and free markets. However, they do not live by the edicts of political correctness. ...

The RINOs mentioned in the article don't even favor the above.

71 posted on 10/07/2002 10:18:56 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: discostu
Arrrrrrrr, ye sea-goin' bellhop!

...and a happy almost-USMC birthday - Semper Fi!

72 posted on 10/07/2002 10:19:22 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SerpentDove
Maybe if South Park was a little more than adolescent, ignorant potty-jokes, it would be funny.

I've only seen about five minues of South Park - it was the episode that was a parody of Janet Reno's grabbing of Elian Gonzalez.

But if South Park viewers vote against Democrats, more power to them.

By the way, the web site that published this article - Tech Central Station - coined the phrase 'homicide bombers' that was subsequently adopted by the White House.

73 posted on 10/07/2002 10:19:46 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Phantom Lord
Actually, you were. I ad you and Bella and StoneCold (and the rest of that crowd of usual suspects) in mind when I wrote that. Glad you noticed.
74 posted on 10/07/2002 10:20:39 AM PDT by discostu
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To: Billthedrill
Not me, I didn't have the guts to serve (I admit freely the weakness was my own, so much for Norwell's idea of "too good to serve", not me, too chicken, that was me), but both my parents and one of my uncles. And my grandfather was in the Army in WWII. And my father-in-law was career Air Force. Not related to anybody that was in the Navy, but I have lots of friends that were (why do so many Navy men retire to the desert? did you guys get sick of water or something?).

That's right the anniversary is coming soon, usually that signals some cool stuff on History Channel.
75 posted on 10/07/2002 10:28:59 AM PDT by discostu
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To: Phantom Lord
LOL! What I liked is that Chef actually started to sing to them before he realized what they said the problem was.
76 posted on 10/07/2002 10:30:11 AM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: steve-b
And so it would be. In later years, pundits would talk about the "Reagan Democrats," the pro-life, anti-Communist voters who were more at home in bowling alleys than country clubs. By stressing themes of family, neighborhood, and peace through strength, Reagan brought them together with the traditional Republicans who worried about capital gains.

An explanation stolen from John J. Pitney Jr., Associate professor of government at Claremont McKenna College & author of The Art of Political Warfare. This is the Reagan Republican definition I am accustomed to seeing.

Now as for Reagan implementing a social agenda, perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought he:

Attempted to appoint judges who'd overturn Roe V.Wade, such as James Buckley and Robert Bork

Endorsed Constitutional Ammendments to protect the flag and allow prayer in school

Instituted a We Ask-Don't Belong-Don't Join policy regarding homosexuals in the military by executive order shortly after taking the presidency

Fired homosexual aides while Governor in California

Ended sex-integrated basic training (at least in the Army) begun under the Carter Administration

Vetoed bills publicly funding abortion

Ended all abortions at US Military Facilities

Campaigned vigorously on behalf of candidates like Paul Laxalt, Jesse Helms and Malcolm Wallop. I'd say this is at least a fairly decent effort at implementing social conservatism and the fact he had varying degrees of success does not mitigate the fact he made an honest attempt to do it.

Now, if you want somebody who speaks out of both sides of his mouth, look at GWB as regards enforcing immigration laws.

77 posted on 10/07/2002 10:36:52 AM PDT by Norwell
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To: discostu
Many Navy folks retire to the desert because there are a fair number of installations (San Diego, Twenty Nine Palms) in the desert.

The same phenomena applies to Army folks in the Southeast.

Bottom line is most of them end up there after their hitch. If you are from New England it is tough to get home.

78 posted on 10/07/2002 10:39:52 AM PDT by Norwell
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To: Bella_Bru
That was one of the funniest episodes.

"Yep, close my eyes, and suck it out of a tube" WTF!!!
79 posted on 10/07/2002 10:40:36 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: Norwell
Not that desert, I mean where I am, Tucson AZ. Where the nearest ocean is 6 hours drive away (coincidentally in San Diego). The real desert. 29 Stumps is OK, but it's not a very dry heat. There's tons of Navy guys out here. And Marines, you see a lot of the black red and gold window stickers. Technically this is an Air Force town, but the retirees never seem to stick around. I think maybe they just get sick of water. Or maybe they don't want the reminder. My father-in-law stoped riding in planes the minute he retired.
80 posted on 10/07/2002 10:50:30 AM PDT by discostu
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