Palestinian Teenager Shot After Defying Curfew

VOA News ^ | 10/5/02 | Sonja Pace

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

A Palestinian teenager was shot dead by Israeli troops Saturday, near the West Bank city of Nablus and several other Palestinians are reported injured.

Palestinian witnesses and medical workers say the teenager was shot when he and a group of boys defied the military curfew and threw stones at Israeli soldiers. The incident occurred at a refugee camp near Nablus. Witnesses say they also heard gunfire from the center of the city.

It's the second shooting death of a Palestinian teenager in the past two days. On Friday, a Palestinian youth was killed under similar circumstances in a village in the northern West Bank, and earlier Friday, another Palestinian youngster was critically wounded by Israeli tank fire near Nablus.

These are the latest incidents in almost daily deadly violence between Israelis and Palestinians.

Nablus and most other West Bank cities have been under an almost continuous curfew for over three months - ever since Israel re-occupied much of the West Bank, in response to a spate of suicide bombings by Palestinian militants inside Israel.

Palestinians in many cities routinely defy the curfew when there are no Israeli soldiers around. They also say that, often, patrolling Israeli troops simply ignore the defiance. But, there have also been clashes, mostly between soldiers and young Palestinian stone throwers.

[Your Nightmare]

The West Bank is Israel. Are you dense?

Given the fact that I and a lot of other people (including the US Government, the UN, and practically every other government in the world except Israel themselves) disagree with you, let's just leave it at "whether the West Bank is part of Israel or not is "disputed".

But let me ask you this again. If it is part of Israel, as you claim, shouldn't the Arabs in Nablus have a right to vote in Israeli elections. I'm talking about the Arabs in Nablus not Israel (pre-1967 Israel, according to your beliefs).

[Under the Radar]

I have to admit I am honestly confused here. Palestinian teenage boys act like too many teenage boys-- dumb, violent, and defiant. They throw rocks. They get shot by Israelis. Conservatives say that this is to be expected, since these boys come from a murderous culture.

Here in the US we also have dumb, violent, and defiant teenage boys. If they were shot by our government, would we say that this is what they get for throwing rocks? I don't understand the double standard. Would someone please explain this to me?

[rdb3]

Address the myths I linked you to or get to stepping. It goes both ways, paht-nah. You have your work cut out for you. Now hop to it.

[Your Nightmare]

No, I don't get it. Your still backtracking. You said "And maybe you should go to hell and visit a site named 'Stormfront.'" I'm assuming you meant Stormfront.org, which is a racist, white power website (if you meant another stormfront website, please let me know the address). Why would you say I should visit a racist website if you if you didn't believe I was a racist?

[Alouette]

I wonder how many people on Free Republic would take the oppression the Palestinians have suffered for 35 years.

Listen, shmuck, I was in Israel not long after the 1967 war. The Old City and Hebron were totally open. The Arabs liberated from the Jordanians were thrilled to welcome the Israelis with open arms. They were making money like never before. That's "oppression"? Give me a freakin' break.

The "oppression" began when the Israelis started to wobble, and instead of annexing and building up the areas right away as they should have done, talked about giving it away to thugs and thieves. Any "oppression" that has occurred since then has been at the hands of the PLO who take the money that's supposed to be used to build an infrastructure and build themselves palaces on the Riviera (as is the custom in the entire Arab world).

Then they whine about "occupation" which in their world means, living next door to a Jew.

So, if I moved in next door to you, would that make my Your Nightmare?

[rdb3]

You said "And maybe you should go to hell and visit a site named 'Stormfront.'"

Of course I did. You fired at me with a .22, and I fired back with an MX missile. To be sure, what did you say to me that resulted in this response from me? Tell the whole truth, not part of it.

Why would you say I should visit a racist website if you if you didn't believe I was a racist?

Because your stance in defending the so-called Palestinians is at home at such a place. Didn't I already tell you that?

Now, are you going to address what I linked to you or not? Yes or no?

[rdb3]

No, I don't get it.

If I said that I was surprised, I'd be lying.

Your [sic] still backtracking.

I shall buy you a grammar book for Christmas.

[Your Nightmare]

I don't need to address them because I don't necessarily disagree with the conclusions. My point was that those myths have nothing to do with the situation in Nablus where a boy was shot for throw rocks during a curfew the Israelis have no right to implement or enforce. If I were in that boy's position, I would be throwing a lot more than rocks, I'd be throwing bullets, Molotov cocktails, grenades, whatever I could get my hands on. And I think most freedom-loving people would do the same, including the vast majority of the people on Free Republic.

One caveat, I would not kill civilians in Israel. The people that do this obviously wrong and are nothing more than murderers. They do nothing but hurt their cause.

[William McKinley]

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[Your Nightmare]

To be sure, what did you say to me that resulted in this response from me? Tell the whole truth, not part of it.

I said you should go to a site without the word "free" in the title because you can't see that this boy who was shot was fighting for freedom then you don't understand what freedom is.

Because your stance in defending the so-called Palestinians is at home at such a place.

So you believe that defending the Palestinians is a racist point of view? ...You're still dodging...

[dennisw]

So what's your propaganda point? That if only Israel would withdraw from the West Bank and Gaza...That then it would get peace from the Pallies? Do you really believe this?

[HennepinPrisoner]

Maybe it's the part about being made to live like caged animals, 24/7, in their own city.

Yeah...that must be it. If I lived like a caged animal 24/7, I too would throw rocks at my gun-toting zookeeper. /sarcasm

This teenager was an idiot and deserves the Darwin Award.

I am quite sure this stone-throwing teenager was jumping up and down with joyous celebration when the suicide bomber killed Israeli teenagers in that nightclub last year.

[Your Nightmare]

I shall buy you a grammar book for Christmas.

Pointing out someone's typo is always a clear sign that you're losing a discussion. Anytime you see someone put "[sic]" in someone else's quote, you know it's over. They just can't admit it.

[Your Nightmare]

So what's your propaganda point? That if only Israel would withdraw from the West Bank and Gaza...That then it would get peace from the Pallies? Do you really believe this?

Do you believe that the Israeli will ever get peace from the Palistinians by occupying the West Bank and Gaza? It hasn't happened for 35 years, in fact the situation's only gotten worse. There will never be peace as long as the Israeli's continue to deny the Palestinians their inalienable rights.

Honestly, I think the best hope for peace is for Israel to unilaterally withdraw and set up a strong security border on the pre-67 line. A lot of Israelis agree with this idea and it might be implemented when Sharon is gone (probably next year).

[Your Nightmare]

Isn't it strange how no one has tried to explain the double standard?

[dennisw]

Do you believe that the Israeli will ever get peace from the Palistinians by occupying the West Bank and Gaza? It hasn't happened for 35 years, in fact the situation's only gotten worse. There will never be peace as long as the Israeli's continue to deny the Palestinians their inalienable rights.

Honestly, I think the best hope for peace is for Israel to unilaterally withdraw and set up a strong security border on the pre-67 line. A lot of Israelis agree with this idea and it might be implemented when Sharon is gone (probably next year).

Total pathetic leftist idiocy. The idiocy of the dreamer. You really don't know what the eternal Jihad is all about do you? Nor do you care to know. That Mohammed was the first JIHADIST terrorist. It's all written in the Koran.  

I think the best hope for peace is for Israel to unilaterally withdraw

You "give" the West Bank and Gaza to them with no iron clad guarantees of peace and you are a fool. A moron. You are what they call dead meat. You act weak in the MidEast and you invite stepped up assault on yourself. You really don't have a clue about the Islamic mentality. You figure they think like you do and are reasonable. I promise you they are not.
As soon as Pallies get their "state" they will bring in advanced weapons to better destroy Israel. To make Jihad on a bloodier level. Your peace prescription is really for more war. Fiercer war.

Islam is a barracks religion. Wake up and look around this planet to the many Jihads. Their stinking "holy wars". Israel is just one of many

[dennisw]

Here in the US we also have dumb, violent, and defiant teenage boys. If they were shot by our government, would we say that this is what they get for throwing rocks? I don't understand the double standard. Would someone please explain this to me?
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You stupidly judge the MidEast by the comfortable standards that you grew up on in America. If America was being suicide bombed and terrorized you would sing a different tune.

[Under the Radar]

You stupidly judge the MidEast by the comfortable standards that you grew up on in America. If America was being suicide bombed and terrorized you would sing a different tune.

Ah, so if we had lots of violence in our streets and in our cities by an identifiable group or groups of individuals, we would be justified in imposing a curfew on them and in taking pro-active police measures against them?

I would appreciate your taking a less-hostile tone, as I have done nothing to offend you. I am grateful that you answered my prior question, and look forward to your answer to this one.

[rdb3]

Pointing out someone's typo is always a clear sign that you're losing a discussion.

HA! You got it. Whatever you say.

But so you know, that really wasn't a "typo." It was a grammatical error. Typing "yuo" for "you" is a typo. Using an adjective in the place of a contraction is not a typo.

But, please, don't mind me. Just continue to side with the so-called Palestinians. That, in and of itself, ends the discussion as far as I'm concerned. It is a defense of the untenable.

[SevenDaysInMay]

After the 6 Day and Y.K. wars and countless murderous acts against Israeli innocents, the Paliban's supporters are in a pickle. They are sworn mortal enemies of Israel and are simply paying the price of teaching their children to hate and attack with deadly weapons.

The WAR against Jews has never stopped but morphed into this war of attrition as preached by ham fisted Islamic leadership; HAMASS et al. are simply NonGovernmental Organization shock troops providing plausible deniability to the nation states waging offensive war on Israel.

35 years and counting to Armageddon, in large part becaused Arabs can't admit they have lost this 3 generation WAR.