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Terror link to Maryland shootings? Experts divided whether killing spree work of al-Qaida
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, October 4, 2002

Posted on 10/03/2002 11:45:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Though al-Qaida training videotapes and manuals captured in Afghanistan specifically show the planning of attacks on Americans in drive-by shootings, experts who have analyzed those materials are cautious about concluding the murder spree outside of Washington yesterday is connected in any way to terrorism.

The videotapes and training manuals, which show Osama lin Laden's terrorists have prepared to kill Americans with small-arms fire from trucks and vans, were first revealed in a WorldNetDaily report last month.

But John Holschen of Insights Training Center, who produced a report on the tape for military and law enforcement officials, said the rash of shootings in a small area of suburban Washington in a short period of time is unusual but not altogether unique.

"It's not inconceivable that this will turn out to be a terrorist attack," he said. However, he cautioned against jumping to any conclusions without more information.

The training video captured in Afghanistan shows al-Qaida operatives practicing the following kinds of assaults:

Skip Gouchenour, a licensed detective in Pennsylvania who has analyzed the videotape and other training materials and made a presentation on them for the Pennsylvania Detectives Association, agreed that the Maryland shooting and murder spree is very unusual.

"I'm not dismissing the possibility of a terrorist connection," he said. "It's strange, indeed."

Gouchenour specializes in investigating murder cases for district attorneys, defense attorneys, police agencies and private citizens. He says he has run across similar murder sprees in his career, but finds some of the details of this case unusual.

Police across the Washington area are searching for what they describe as "a skilled shooter" who killed five people in a random death spree beginning Wednesday night and continuing yesterday morning in Montgomery County, Md.

The shootings took place at two shopping centers, two gas stations and on the lawn outside an auto dealership along Rockville Pike. The victims were ordinary people doing ordinary things on a seemingly ordinary day.

As a result of the attacks, children were kept indoors at schools in the county.

"We do have someone that so far has been very accurate in what they are attempting to do, and so we probably have a skilled shooter," said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose yesterday. Police said they are looking for a small, slightly damaged white truck that may have black lettering on the side. Witnesses to the shootings said they saw a truck matching that description leaving some of the crime scenes.

Montgomery County police spokesman Derek Baliles said police suspect the shooter was armed with a rifle.

About 40 minutes before the first killing, a shot was fired through a window of a Michael's craft store in the 3800 block of Aspen Hill Road. No one was hurt, but Montgomery County police said they believe the incident may have been related to what followed.

The first fatal shooting occurred Wednesday night at 6 o'clock, when James Martin, 55, of Silver Spring was killed in the parking lot of a Shoppers Food Warehouse at Randolph Road and Georgia Avenue in Wheaton. By yesterday morning, the stores in the area were open for business as usual. A security tape from a camera that monitors the lot had been turned over to police.

Then about 7:40 a.m., James Buchanan was pushing a lawn mower over a narrow strip of grass in front of the Fitzgerald Auto Mall on Rockville Pike when he was shot.

The next victim was Premkumar A. Walekar, a part-time cab driver. It was about 8:10 a.m., at a Mobil gas station on Aspen Hill Road at Connecticut Avenue in Aspen Hill, when the killer struck and Walekar died pumping gas.

About 8:30 a.m., Sarah Ramos, 34, was sitting on a bench at the shopping center near the Leisure World retirement community off Georgia Avenue in Silver Spring when the killer next took aim and fired.

It was just before 10 a.m. at a Shell gas station in Kensington and Lori Lewis-Rivera, 25, was vacuuming her minivan. The station, at the corner of Knowles and Connecticut avenues in the heart of Kensington, is visible from all directions. But again the killer struck as if coming from nowhere.

Throughout the day the manhunt intensified, but as night fell there had been no arrests. Though authorities have downplayed the possibility of terrorism, the FBI, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Secret Service have all been involved in the investigation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; banglist; beltwaysniper; dcsniper; dcsnipers; snipertimeline; snipertraining
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To: antidisestablishment
Now reporting another possible shooting (a 6th one)
121 posted on 10/04/2002 7:16:32 AM PDT by two23
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To: two23
Breaking...Fox reporting 6th man shot last night at 9:15 pm...could be related....DUH!
122 posted on 10/04/2002 7:17:15 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: two23
newly discovered victim or a shooting just occurred?
123 posted on 10/04/2002 7:17:45 AM PDT by backspace
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To: two23
The last time I seriously looked at hunting rifles was in high school in the early 60s. I believe the .223 was new then. That leaves 40 years of rifle models.
124 posted on 10/04/2002 7:18:03 AM PDT by js1138
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To: JohnHuang2
IS THERE A LINK TO NEBRASKA SHOOTINGS? I feel I must be hallucinating but this morning when I woke up I thought:

Last Thursday: 5 dead
This Thursday: 5 dead

I am sure they likely aren't related, and I don't want to be prone to conspiracy thoughts. But still, I don't believe the 'bank robbery' in Nebraska was much of a bank robbery.
126 posted on 10/04/2002 7:18:14 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: mewzilla
"Maybe it's really paranoid of me, but I was wondering if the perp(s) might have been getting in some target practice, maybe getting ready for something else."

That thought occurred to me, too, when I heard that the Secret Service is assisting with the investigation.


127 posted on 10/04/2002 7:18:46 AM PDT by watchwoman
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To: dakine
"Now the police/authorities are asking citizens to call them and turn-in anyone they know that owns rifles."

They did?

128 posted on 10/04/2002 7:19:10 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: mystery-ak; harpseal; aristeides; Joe Hadenuf
Another one last night?? There must be a news blackout on in that area.
129 posted on 10/04/2002 7:19:23 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I also heard it. These people are idiots.
130 posted on 10/04/2002 7:21:33 AM PDT by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: dakine
I read further. Amazing!
131 posted on 10/04/2002 7:21:57 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: *bang_list
The original was chambered in 54mm, so that the rifle could accept both Warsaw Pact and the NATO 7.62x51mm rounds. The 7.62x39mm round is a "civilian" version of the weapon and the round became popular here in the US. I have a rifle chambered in 7.62x39mm (Ruger Mini-30)...

Nope. AK47 was designed around 7.62x39, 7.62x54 Russian is a 308/762NATO equivalent used in FSU medium machine guns and the SVD sniper rifle. It is not interchangeable with 308/7.62x51mm NATO.

132 posted on 10/04/2002 7:22:09 AM PDT by xsrdx
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To: Fred Mertz
An older man(didn't get the age) standing on street corner shot...DOA at hospital...that's all they reported for now.
133 posted on 10/04/2002 7:22:19 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: Conservative_Dr.Pepper_Drinker
"I was wondering about the FBI comment that the "ar-15 was a legal rifle to possess if it was manufactured before a certain date". Is this Maryland law?

I don't live in MD, but maybe some else can clarify the laws there. I saw the LE spokesman at the press conference--he did not seem to be an expert on weapons..he kept looking to the people on his side for confirmation to what he was saying. I bet all the rifles that were set up on the table for the press were the personal rifles of the folks on the force!

134 posted on 10/04/2002 7:22:30 AM PDT by two23
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To: brigette
Exit wound from a soft lead bullet. Bullet expands at impact and rips thru the body.
135 posted on 10/04/2002 7:22:50 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: infowarrior
Where do you get your misinformation on caliberts? That is laughable.
136 posted on 10/04/2002 7:22:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: two23
I am sure you can buy AR-15s in MD, I saw one in a store not long ago. I think he meant to say "AFTER a certain date" so it will only take mags for 10 rounds. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
137 posted on 10/04/2002 7:24:00 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: two23
"They should be looking for anyone who has "Guns&Ammo" magazines laying around their house."

Yes, and post these guys on every street corner, so we can have some peace !

138 posted on 10/04/2002 7:24:15 AM PDT by Crowcreek
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To: Vermont Lt
That's an insightful post. That sort of thing is why I come to FR.
139 posted on 10/04/2002 7:24:49 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: JohnHuang2
I'm already hearing speculation that the shooter, who was skilled, may be a disgruntled white male "hunter" and probably a conservative to boot. They say the rifle was something a "hunter" might use.
140 posted on 10/04/2002 7:24:52 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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