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Just broke on Fox - Ashcroft questioning NJSC Rule
Fox News Television | 10/03/02 | Brytani

Posted on 10/03/2002 5:37:24 PM PDT by Brytani

Fox news just reported, Ashcroft is asking NJ officials to explain why they are not following federal election laws in regards to military ballots in the switch and bait ruling.

This might get interesting


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: ashcroft; federalelectionlaw; helphasarrived; justicedepartment; militaryballots
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To: Brytani
What I can't understand is that he withdrew from the race for strictly tactical reasons and they all stated it was for the party not to lose control of the Senate.This position was as much restated by all the party hacks. Torcelli was originally selected by their party, by whatever process, representing New Jersey. Now he's being replaced to represent ... Who?

Hearing his exit speach I get the impression that he's done nothing wrong, he's been the greatest for New Jersey and it's his decision to withdraw for the good of the party. I can't think of a better person to represent the Democratic Party. They should draft him for 6 more years and make him run. That would solve everything.
161 posted on 10/03/2002 7:59:08 PM PDT by NJJ
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To: copycat
Ashcroft needs to saty under the radar, and Bill Frist needs to be front and center. Sen. Frist should schedule a DAILY press conference and Ashcroft should keep his cards close to the vest.

That is great advice. Doctor Frist is one guy the liberals simply cannot bring themselves to hate, and one guy they cannot get away with painting as a right-wing extremist. Excellent choice as point man.

164 posted on 10/03/2002 8:08:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: b4itstime
Of course democrats could alway write in the name of their candidate.

LOFL!!! Democrats "write", huh? Hahahaha....!

165 posted on 10/03/2002 8:11:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RJCogburn
Ashcroft's involvement will do nothing more than motivate the dem voters....this year's Gingrich. He is an easily 'villainized' person.

And, while on the subject of AG Ashcroft, it is too bad he did not display this same enthusiasm for government corruption at the federal level....lynx fur and BIA scandals, Boston FBI office where the innocent are incarcerated and the guilty protected, Loral where the shareholders are fined and the guilty ignored, Chinagate......

Ashcroft's involvement -- lynx fur and BIA scandals, Boston FBI office where the innocent are incarcerated and the guilty protected, Loral where the shareholders are fined and the guilty ignored, Chinagate..... -- would do nothing more than motivate the dem voters....this year's Gingrich. He is an easily 'villainized' person.

So using your arguement, he shouldn't get involved with that long list of scandals.

166 posted on 10/03/2002 8:17:24 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Dianna
From what I heard, there is a date by which all absentee ballots must be mailed by to ensure the voter has an adequate amount of time to receive and return the ballot. I heard one of the judges ask Forrester's 2nd. lawyer, about when the Military ballots were due to go out, and he said there was a 35 day rule, and that some of the counties had already mailed out their military ballots but not all, and she kept asking him where that rule was stated, then they figured out that the day of the hearing was already late! Past the 35 days, And the judge made some smart-alec comment, and forrester's lawyer said something about the election supervisors being in violation of the law already, and could be fined.
167 posted on 10/03/2002 8:19:43 PM PDT by KE
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To: Arkinsaw
He should definitely point out his opponents record

He should point out that his "new" opponent received ZERO votes in the primary and has no right to be on the ballot. Torricelli ran unopposed in the primary. So if he bows out of the race it's tough luck. Torricelli was running for office. NOT the Democratic party. And they have no right to appoint Lautenberg as the "new" candidate.

168 posted on 10/03/2002 8:24:01 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: RJCogburn
Thanks, I will.
169 posted on 10/03/2002 8:25:03 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Brytani
What happened to having a Primary Election? And how are those in the U.S. military from New Jersey now overseas going to vote?

Does the Torricelli affair set a precedent that we can now replace any Republican candidate with another candidate when the polls say to do so would be a better chance of winning?
170 posted on 10/03/2002 8:26:30 PM PDT by Z-28
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To: KE
And the judge made some smart-alec comment,

She(?)said that as long as the law was already broken, is there any reason why they should not be allowed continue. No kidding!
So if you kill one person, you've already broken the law. Why not just keep killing, then?

171 posted on 10/03/2002 8:26:45 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Lancey Howard
Making voters write in their choice would place an undue burden on two key Democrat constituencies: the feebleminded, and Deceased Americans.

Anyway, there are several minor party candidates already on the ballot.

172 posted on 10/03/2002 8:29:48 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: LADY J
That should really get us where we want to be!!!

Try responding to my entire post instead of one phrase next time. We are talking about overall Republican Party strategy for this election and what is best tactically to win an election. If you want to go screaming at the top of your lungs about injustice and how you and Forrester are victims then thats fine. But do not expect to get votes with that strategy because people are not looking for partisan screaming they are looking for honorable public servants who do the right thing and trust them. The whole point IS to get votes is it not and to WIN the elections nationwide is it not.
173 posted on 10/03/2002 8:30:44 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: #3Fan
If all you're worried about is that Senate seat then you're not that much different than the Dems. We must uphold the rule of law or we'll never win another majority or the presidency again. We can't win if we allow the Dems these massive advantages.

Unlike the Democrats, we do have principles. The problem you discuss above is that of tactics and "strategery." Our tactics must be sly and shrewd and so cunning you could pin a tail on them and call them weasels, so that our strategery may be executed.

Pristine moral purity will be accompanied by utter political powerlessness. It's like the endless GOA vs. NRA debates...

174 posted on 10/03/2002 8:31:36 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: concerned about politics
That's exactly what that justice said. I heard her (I think it was the chief justice of the court.)
175 posted on 10/03/2002 8:35:05 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: r9etb
And the NJSC decision probably does violate the U.S. Constitution on 14th and 17th Amendment grounds. (Among others.)

Interesting. What is your 14th amendment argument against the NJSC ruling?

176 posted on 10/03/2002 8:36:10 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Senator Pardek
Ya, just like our great Rat rep up here in Maine, John Baldacci, who is now the frontrunner for governor, told me in 2000 that SCOFLA would have the final say.

He won't even accept my email now.
;O)

177 posted on 10/03/2002 8:37:47 PM PDT by metesky
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To: metesky
Didn't I see a post yesterday that implied that Federal election laws required military ballots be mailed prior to 35 days before election? Does anyone know if this is true? Assuming this is true, wouldn't the njsc ruling be in violation of Federal election laws giving the SCOTUS grounds for reviewing the decision? Someone fill me in on this.
178 posted on 10/03/2002 8:43:56 PM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: BOBWADE
I saw the same post and have the same question.
180 posted on 10/03/2002 8:53:56 PM PDT by metesky
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