Posted on 10/03/2002 3:24:16 PM PDT by Heartlander2
The Islamic Jihad will strike America after Bush invades Iraq. The level of violence and damage will likely exceed Sept. 11, 2001! This I can promise you.
Right now there are unguarded nuclear weapons in the U.S. waiting to be used by terrorists against us. Known as SADMs (Small Atomic Demolition Munitions) or "suitcase nukes," these pocket bombs have the blast power of 5,000 tons of TNT. Moreover, their surface radiation contamination and "fallout" magnifies the footprint of these man-portable weapons.
SADMs are part of the many Soviet Unconventional Warfare caches secreted throughout America (as we did in Europe) during the cold war in anticipation of general war between the USA and USSR.
There will be no extreme acts of Islamic terrorism in the United States if Bush does not massively damage innocent Arab lives, property, infrastructure and economic means. This I can also promise you.
The 9-11 attack was in direct retaliation for such "collateral" destruction during Desert Storm - even as Pam Am 103 (Dec. 1988) was retribution for the U.S. downing of an Iranian AirBus 300 (July 1988).
I am a loyal American citizen - not a mind reader, or in communication with any terrorist contact. The reason I know what will happen is because I understand the Holy Koran and Islam. I trained Afghan Muhajadeen, was an advisor in Saudi Arabia, and have conducted operations in East/West Africa (Muslims), Indonesia and Bangladesh. While this was more than 10 years ago, the Koran has not changed a single scintilla.
After the WTC and Pentagon bombings, I publicly assured Americans that there would be no further acts of Islamic violence as long as Bush did not go beyond reason in searching out and exterminating the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
The Koran is specific in concerning jihad warriors, revenge, and spiritual rewards. Islam cannot attack an enemy until attacked; then they must respond in a like degree - ergo following the Desert Storm blitz, the jihad targeted the WTC representing coalition economy, while the Pentagon was the primary military nerve center.
We had no Islamic terrorism in American until we attacked Iraq. The jihad assaults against the U.S. Marines in Beirut, U.S. Airmen in Saudi Arabia, and U.S. Navy in Yemen were in opposition to U.S. military occupation in Islamic nations. There are many ancient Arab sayings - the thrust of many being: If you don't want trouble with Arabs, leave them alone.
Not since the Goebbels and Hitler stage-production of the invasion of Poland, has the world witnessed such a snow job by the cast of George "mini-me" Bush and company trying to justify a second blitz of Iraq. They have failed to tie Saddam with Al-Qaeda, or prove that he has weapons of "mass destruction" beyond what we gave him during his seven-year war against Iran. What makes the Bushwhacker's cry for hair, eyes and teeth even worse is the means he intends to use.
General Wayne Downing is a friend of mine. Before serving in the White House as chief advisor to NSC-head Condoleezza Rice and Tom Ridge (Homeland Security), Wayne was CincSOCom (Commander-in-chief, Special Operation Command, at McDill AFB, Florida). Every Navy SEAL, Army Ranger, Paratrooper, Green Beret, and Delta Force operative was under his command. Wayne walked away from the White House on 26 June because he could no longer support the Bush plan for taking out Saddam Hussein.
The "Downing Plan" called for a small group of special forces working with Kurds and some dissident Iraqis to "cut the head off the snake" allowing the body to die, while placing only a handful of Americans in harm's way. Tommy Franks favored a 200,000-man military force to accomplish the same task. Bush gave the nod to Tommy and his army.
Back to my warning and promise. General Downing's plan is completely within the Muslim law forbidding any retaliation. The Bush-Franks solution demands an equal reaction - more homeland terrorism - this time possibly big-time!
More terrorism means more homeland defense. Where does it end? A slave is an example of a perfectly secure person. This is our country. We can stop the deployment of 18-year-old National Guardsmen and the invitation for greater terrorism in America. As individuals we can't do everything, but we can all do something. Notify our three congressmen to act for us in keeping our military guarding America so we can sleep peacefully at night. The Attorney General may say that Bush doesn't need Congress to attack Iraq, but it doesn't mean Congress can't bulldog mini-me before he stampedes the herd!
Give the Stupidstinians four years of real, unrelenting, vicious, murderous warfare (even if they do break and run after 3 minutes) and they'll be whimpering like babies for peace.
Bo Gritz, like Col David Hackworth, were extremely brave and courageous leaders at the company and Battalion level. They lived among their troops being at the forefront of all combatative operations. They were practically worshipped by their troops. These officers had a propensity for visiting the local whorehouses and bars with their NCO's and lower enlisted ranks. They were considered great fighting leaders, but lacked that officer quality for commanding larger than Battalion sized units. This is why they both retired as colonels never getting close to the general rank.
I served with a Lt David Hackworth in the 40th Inf Div in Korea. I've never known a better platoon leader nor warrior than he.
A shame that the "Hack" never was able to progress into the higher leadership ranks of the US Army, but he was not a politician, he was a soldier's soldier.
I am hereby reducing my role on this great forum to one and only one task.
To teach the distinction between "your" and "you're".
Your is a possessive pronouns:
Ex:"Is that your gun?"
You're is a verbal construct, in the form of a contraction. It means "you are."
Ex: "You're sure that is your gun?
Dammit.
Pronoun. Typo will be corrected as I continue my mission.
Have mercy.
I donno, Lib. I am not too sure these guys are going to take it laying down.
Regards
OK
LOL... Yep. I'm certain that a medium size whooping is all they were spoiling for.
The Islamic Jihad will strike America after Bush invades Iraq. The level of violence and damage will likely exceed Sept. 11, 2001! This I can promise you.
Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Bo Gritz doesn't have any better a crystal ball than I do, but I'm curious about why he selected 'Islamic Jihad' out of the many, many other Islamic and secular Arab-marxist-nationalist international terrorist groups that we currently face? Islamic Jihad is not particularly special as far as the debate about Iraq goes.
Right now there are unguarded nuclear weapons in the U.S. waiting to be used by terrorists against us.
Known as SADMs (Small Atomic Demolition Munitions) or "suitcase nukes," these pocket bombs have the blast power of 5,000 tons of TNT. Moreover, their surface radiation contamination and "fallout" magnifies the footprint of these man-portable weapons.
There is no proof that there are unguarded nuclear suitcase weapons here in the US, much less any proof that Iraq, Islamic Jihad, or any other group has obtained them for their use, or would be able to figure them out if they did have them. They aren't easy to set off. In fact, since none have been used, it's reasonable to assume that Islamic terrorists have NOT obtained such weapons because they would certainlt have used them by now.
SADMs are part of the many Soviet Unconventional Warfare caches secreted throughout America (as we did in Europe) during the cold war in anticipation of general war between the USA and USSR.
Allegedly. But as I said, they aren't easy to set off or take apart without Soviet information. I see though that Bo Gritz proves Bush's point that WMD in the hands of terrorists and terrorist states could be used as blackmail. Bo Gritz doesn't want the US to act because he is either afraid of Iraq retaliating with nuclear weapons, or because Bo Gritz supports Iraq for philosophical reasons.
If he is afraid that Iraq will retaliate using nuclear suitcase bombs, then his later claim in this article that Iraq has no WMD must be false; if Bo Gritz is against a US attack on philosophical grounds, why doesn't he just stick to that instead of making up nonsense about suitcase nukes in terrorist hands. He sounds like a loon telling the people on Flight 93 not to retaliate against the hijackers for fear the hijackers will slash more passenger's throats. "Just sit there," Bo says. "Just sit there- when they land they will negotiate with the authorities and then we will all be released. If we fight, they will kill us all." Sorry, Bo. This time we're not buying the line.
There will be no extreme acts of Islamic terrorism in the United States if Bush does not massively damage innocent Arab lives, property, infrastructure and economic means. This I can also promise you.
This is his most idiotic statement yet. Evidently Bo Gritz slept in over the millenium and missed the millenium plots, slept in through the Philippine hijacking plots, slept in through the first WTC bombing, and slept in on September 11, 2001.
The 9-11 attack was in direct retaliation for such "collateral" destruction during Desert Storm
Oh, really? How does Bo Gritz come to this conclusion? Does he have any evidence to support this assertion? No, he does not- that's why he didn't present his evidence but is instead blowing hot air to any willing to listen. Who CARES what THEY thought they were doing it for, it remains a FACT that they were wrong as a group as they do NOT have a right to avenge anything. Only governments have a right to avenge, not individuals. Individuals can only act in defense, not as vigilantes. The hijackers had no authority to carry out revenge on a country for the alleged offenses against a country that doesn't even claim them. Get it? the people of their countries didn't grant them the power or the authority to act in their name. Not through election, nor through tolerance of their rule.
Unless ol' Bo Gritz wants to admit that Iraq had a hand in 911 and gave the hijackers the authority to act in Iraq's name to avenge the Gulf War. But Iraq won't even admit that, so the hijackers are on their own, and as such, they are morally wrong. No people gave them the Authority of the Avenger's Sword. That Authority can only be given to government, and from government to its ministers and public servants.
The only people who think otherwise are the moral equivalency crowd. And their philosophy is so bankrupt it would mean our destruction and the destruction of constitutional law.
- even as Pam Am 103 (Dec. 1988) was retribution for the U.S. downing of an Iranian AirBus 300 (July 1988).
Pan Am 103 and the Iranian Airbus was not related to 9/11 and is irrelevent when it comes to lending insight into the mindset of totally unrelated terrorist groups, each of whom has their own philosophies and methods, some religious and some secular marxist or nationalist or both. I suppose in Bo Gritz's world, our downing of the Iranian Airbus was in retaliation for the 'Hostage Crisis,' the taking of the US embassy in Iran. (It was not, but it could be accepted as 'fact' by people who don't know their history just as easily as people would accept as fact Bo Gritz's junk about 9/11.)
I am a loyal American citizen - not a mind reader, or in communication with any terrorist contact. The reason I know what will happen is because I understand the Holy Koran and Islam. I trained Afghan Muhajadeen, was an advisor in Saudi Arabia, and have conducted operations in East/West Africa (Muslims), Indonesia and Bangladesh. While this was more than 10 years ago, the Koran has not changed a single scintilla.
Bo Gritz has been known to grossly exagerate his past and to mislead people in order to obtain money; I have no reason to doubt he's doing it again right here. His tale of POW rescues reek of things other than 'patritotism.' He doesn't know the Koran any better than I do, for only an idiot would believe that everyone who reads the Koran interprets it the same way. That's not even true of the Bible... that's why there are so many sects in Islam, and why so many of them call eachother heretics and persecute one another with as much gusto as they persecute Christians and Jews and Hindus. In that sense, the interpretation of the Koran changes CONSTANTLY, depending on the reader's own biases. People see in it exactly what they want to see in it, and ignore the rest... that's human nature. Somewhere there is a Muslim 'Bo Gritz' proclaiming that he understands Christians because he 'knows' the Bible and has seen what the IRA does and worked with the IRA in Libya...
Well, here's proof that Bo Gritz is an erronous old fool. Did he forget about the Singapore plot, right after 911 and before we even went into Afghanistan? Did he forget the Shoe Bomber? The Morocco plot? That curious downing of an airliner ion Rockaway, NY? The LAX shooter? Jose Padilla? The plot on the US embassy in Italy, immediately after 9/11? did he make his assertions before or after the anthrax mailings? Evidently Bo has a very selective memory- there were many things caught after 9/11 in all stages of preparation. Some imminent, some less so, some just ideas among many other ideas.
The Koran is specific in concerning jihad warriors, revenge, and spiritual rewards. Islam cannot attack an enemy until attacked;
According to the Koran, suicide is prohibited too- but depending on the personal desires of those who read it, they can twist it around until they can find a way to make suicide OK. The palestinians read it one way by ceremonially dying BEFORE they carry out a suicide bombing; the 911 terrorists twisted the Koran another way by claiming that they weren't committing suicide at all because they were engaged in a mission like any other mission, except that in this case the chances for survival were slimmer, and death would be an INDIRECT result of their mission, not the point of the mission. But because this view was contrary to conventional Islam's admonition against suicide, Atta didn't tell every hijacker what the mission was all about, for fear that one or more would refuse to go beyone a hijacking into suicide and ruin his mission.
Bo Gritz forgets that zealots- religious or otherwise- can fabricate whatever incident they need to justify what they do. Bo Gritz does the same thing with his selective worldview. He pulls out what he needs to support his argument and ignores all evidence that does not. The Koran is the same... he says. If the Koran were interpreted the same way, the Wahhabi Salafists would not need to persecute the Shiite and the Sunni, and muslims in the Middle East wouldn't consider American muslims like Farakhan to be heretical. Anyone who says Farrakhan's faith is the same as Khomeini's or some Kuwaiti citizens' is a fool. They don't share the same faith at all- they only share the same hate. If the Koran's commentary on Jihad were all interpreted the same, the Palestinians, young and old, would long ago have blown themselves to bits; but instead, they depend on young fools who don't have wisdom nor even real faith in anything because getting people to go on suicide missions isn't as easy as the leadership would like you to believe, nor is suicide so acceptable in Islam as the bad guys want us to fear. The average Iraqi soldiers we encountered in the Gulf War weren't suicidal nor were they murderous...they just wanted to surrender to anyone in order to live.
then they must respond in a like degree - ergo following the Desert Storm blitz, the jihad targeted the WTC representing coalition economy, while the Pentagon was the primary military nerve center.
Oh, but I thought al Qaeda got their revenge with the bombing fo the US embassies in Africa, and the attempted bombing of the USS The Sullivans, and the bombing of the USS Cole? The fact is, you can take ANY action and claim it is in revenge for some other action. People who do things ALWAYS claim it was in revenge, and if you go far enough back in history you can ALWAYS find some reason, however twisted, to justify an action you are going to carry out anyway. Bo Gritz forgot that the Gulf War was 'in revenge' for Hussein invading Kuwait, so anyone that uses the Gulf War as an excuse for terrorism is essentially saying that revenge is justified to avenge revenge. Bo should say what he really means: "Muslim terrorists are always right, the US is always wrong, and we should hug the Muslims for doing us the favor of bringing us to justice."
FALSE. For one, we did NOT attack Iraq. Iraq attacked Kuwait, and so Iraq started the Gulf War. We RETALIATED against Iraq, get it, Bo? WE RETALIATED. (Is this really Bo Gritz? He used the word "American" like an Arab or Chinese guy would here instead of the word "America.")
SEPTEMBER 1970 : (HIJACKING) TWA #741 and Pan Am #93 hijacked by the PFLP and flown to Amman, Jordan. (US civilian planes, although this wasn't 'in' the US)
1974 : (ABU NIDAL WAS FOUNDED WITH IRAQI HELP) Abu Nidal Organization (ANO) was established with Iraqi help and had its main office in Baghdad until 1982. Like its Arab rivals, Iraq has often preferred to "contract out" direct actions which pose a high risk of discovery. - "Saddam's Spies," Globalscan International, LLC, 1999
(* My note: I added this because it was Abu Nidal which sent agents INTO the US well before the Gulf War to assassinate US officials and their families- among them, Col. Oliver North and his family. I doubt seriously that that was the only thing Abu Nidal ever did here, as Hussein was long notorious for eliminating his enemies, including Iraqi defectors in other countries, if they were vocal agaisnt his rule.)
1974 - 1982 : (ABU NIDAL WAS BASED IN BAGHDAD, IRAQ THROUGH 1982) Abu Nidal also was based in Bagdhad later after its expulsion from Libya. Abu Nidal turns up conveniently dead in 2002 in Baghdad- wouldn't be prudent for ol' Abu Nidal to be around for Hussein's TRIAL, would it? No telling what ol' Abu Nidal knows aboiut Saddam Hussein and his acts against the US.
AUGUST 31, 1979. (CALIFORNIA : JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) Violence at Hare Krishna temple in San Diego. (Jamaat al Fuqra, see also Jamaat ul Fuqra.)
NOVEMBER 21, 1979. (NEW YORK : JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) Violence at Islamic-Iranian temple in Queens, NY.
1970s - early 1980s : (JAMAAT UL FUQRA FOUNDED BY SHEIKH MABARIK ALI GILANI, FIREBOMBINGS) The annual report on the Patterns of Global Terrorism during 1998 issued by the Counter-Terrorism Division of the US State Department states as follows of the Jamaat-ul-Fuqra: "Seeks to purify Islam through violence. Members have purchased isolated rural compounds in North America to live communally, practise their faith and insulate themselves from Western culture. Fuqra members have attacked a variety of targets that they view as enemies of Islam, including Muslims they regard as heretics and Hindus. Attacks during the 1980s included assassinations and fire bombings across the US. Fuqra members in the US have been convicted of criminal violations, including murder and fraud." (AL GILANNI is an associate of bin Laden. Notice he got started in the US LONG before the Gulf War.)
DECEMBER 9, 1981 : (BLACK PANTHERS, WESLEY COOK MURDERS OFFICER FAULKNER, MUMIA) Black Panther Wesley Cook shoots 25-year-old Philadelphia Police Officer Danny Faulkner. Upon being shot, Faulkner falls to the ground. Wesley Cook stands over the injured young policeman and fires repeatedly into his face. Cook also attempts to murder a second police officer. Four different black eyewitnesses testified at Cook's trial and clearly identified this animal as the bestial murderer. Three other black witnesses testified that they clearly heard a laughing Cook say, "I shot the motherf*****, I hope the motherf***** dies." In prison, Cook did what most black criminals do: he "found" Islam. He changed his name to Mumia Abu Jamal. Suddenly, his case became a cause celebre for a number of groups. Black racists, whose fanatic hatred for all whites and all police has been documented repeatedly on this web site, viewed Mumia as a hero for having murdered another white "pig." Self-hating Jews, who always support the most demonic degenerates ever to crawl on the face of the earth, also quickly embraced this vicious Jew-hater.
SEPTEMBER 1, 1982 - JULY 1983: (ARIZONA, OREGON, CALIFORNIA, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACKS) Violence at Islamic Cultural Center in Tempe, Arizona, July 1983. The Hotel Rajneesh in Portland is bombed. Three pipe bombs are placed in a fourth-floor room of the hotel by Stephen P. Paster of Los Angeles, who is reportedly one of the organizers of Fuqra in America.
AUGUST 8, 1983. (MICHIGAN, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) Dr. Mozaffar Ahmad, a leader of the Muslim sect Ahmadiyya Movement, is shot to death in Canton, Mich., a Detroit suburb. Police identified William Cain of Akron, Ohio, as the killer. Cain and another Fuqra member, Calvin Jones, die shortly thereafter while setting a fire at the Ahmadiyya Center on Detroit's west side.
1984 : (BAZ ENTERS THE US) Rashad Baz enters the US on a student visa. He would later attack Hasidic jews on the Brooklyn Bridge in March of 1994.
1984-85 : (BAZ ATTENDS COLLEGE IN US) Rashad Baz attends communty college. He would later marry a US citizen and apply for and receive legal residency on that basis. He would then go on to attack Hasidic jews on the Brooklyn Bridge in March of 1994.
JUNE-JULY, 1984. (MISSOURI, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) A defective bomb was found at the Kansas City, Mo., Vedanta Society temple. No arrests have been made.
AUGUST 1, 1984 : (WASHINGTON, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) John Liczwinko of Seattle, affiliated with the Seattle Vedanta Society, is attacked.
AUGUST 1, 1984 : (COLORADO, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) The Hare Krishna temple in Denver is firebombed. Documents obtained in a 1989 raid indicate that the bombing was "apparently perpetrated" by a Fuqra cell then living in Englewood, Colo. Aug. 1, 1984.
AUGUST 1, 1984 : (KANSAS, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) A Hindu physician, Srinivasu Dasari, of Overland Park, Kan., is kidnaped. Victim remains missing, presumably dead.
AUGUST 1, 1984 : (WASHINGTON, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) Three East Indians are shot to death in a suburb of Tacoma, Wash. No suspects arrested.
FEBRUARY 1, 1985 : (COLORADO, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) Fire breaks out at a Leetsdale, Colo., power station. June 22, 1985.
FEBRUARY 1, 1985 : (TEXAS, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) Islamic mosque in Houston is attacked.
JULY 5, 1985. (ILLINOIS, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) The Vat Thothikalam Lao in Rockford, Ill., is attacked. Dec. 1, 1985. Laotian temple in Rockford, Ill., is attacked.
JANUARY 27, 1986: (FLORIDA, AL ARIAN USF CASE) The University of South Florida College of Engineering hires Sami Al-Arian.
MAY 28, 1986. (JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) Randell Gorby of Bethany, W.Va., who was linked to the Hare Krishna temple in Philadelphia, is attacked and injured.
MAY 1988 : (IRAQ STARTS AFLATOXIN RESEARCH) Starts research on aflatoxin at a laboratory in al Salman. Its method was to grow fungus aspergilus in 5.3 quart flasks (The Center for Strategic and International Studies, “If We Fight Iraq: Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction,” revised 28 June 2002) .- Iraq - Scotsman says Saddam has weapons to wipe out world's population, nuclear bomb within 3 years "The Scotsman dossier - SPECIAL REPORT ON IRAQ" by Fraser Nelson, Westminster Editor (I include this because Iraq's nuclear program was already well underway with German and Brazilian help as of this point, and yet Iraq started research on Aflatoxin- aflotoxin isn't what any other nation would consider a good bioweapon, because Aflotoxin isn't rapid-acting. Instead, it works over a long period of time to cause horrible cancers- cancers, I might note- just like those Iraq blames on depleted uranium shells used by the coalition. Such a thing would be useful to a country which wants to hurt its enemies without its enemies even being aware that they have been hit by another state. Aflotoxin would also be useful in creating a crisis and blaming it on others, don't you think? )
SEPTEMBER 17, 1988. (GEORGIA, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) A doctor was shot to death in front of Humana Hospital in Augusta, Ga. by someone linked to Jamaat al Fuqra
OCTOBER 20, 1988: (FLORIDA, AL ARIAN USF CASE) Al-Arian incorporates the Islamic Concern Project, an umbrella organization that includes the Islamic Palestine, or ICP, a charity dedicated to Palestinian causes and telling Americans about the Palestinian Intifada.
DECEMBER 1988: (PAN AM #103 BOMBING, LOCKERBIE) Pan Am #103 bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland; 270 people killed. Libyan leader Moammar Khadaffy's son involved.
1989 : (OREGON, IRAQI SCIENTISTS ATTEND PORTLAND SYMPOSIUM) Three scientists from Al Qaqaa attended a 1989 symposium at Portland, Oregon, on detonation physics, hosted by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. According to a U.S. customs agent involved in the capacitor case, these scientists inquired about krytrons at the conference. - "Iraq and the Bomb: Were They Even Close?", By David Albright and Mark Hibbs, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, March 1991, Volume 47, No. 2, pp. 16-25
1989 : (BAZ MARRIES A US CITIZEN TO GET LEGAL STATUS) Rashad Baz marries a US citizen to enable him a better chance in applying for legal residence later and extend his stay. He would succeed and be given legal residency. He would later attack Hasidic jews on the Brooklyn Bridge in March of 1994.
NOVEMBER 1989 : (IRAQ DEVELOPS AFLATOXIN BOMBS, TESTS ROCKETS) Develops 16 R-400 Aflatoxin bombs, and conducts trials in 122mm rockets.ON IRAQ" by Fraser Nelson, Westminster Editor - Iraq - Scotsman says Saddam has weapons to wipe out world's population, nuclear bomb within 3 years "The Scotsman dossier - SPECIAL REPORT
1990 : (WMD, SCIENTIST KARL-HEINZ SCHAAB IS SOUGHT BY GERMAN AUTHORITIES FOR SALES TO IRAQ) German scientist Karl-Heinz Schaab is sought by German authorities since 1990 on charges of selling German uranium enrichment technology to Iraq before the Gulf War. . - "Brazil uranium sales to Iraq stir debate ," by Carmen Gentile, United Press International 9/25/02
1990 : (SHEIK OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN COMES TO THE US) Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman came to the US with a history of alleged but unproven involvement in terrorism. He had been detained by Egypt's security services after the assassination of President Anwar Sadat in 1981. In spite of this he was admitted to the US and no investigation of him took place for the next two or three years. - "FBI Wary of Investigating Extremist Muslim Leaders: Agency May Rethink Hesitancy on Religious Figures," By Walter Pincus, Washington Post Staff Writer, Monday, October 29, 2001; Page A04
1990s : (RAHMAN SPREADS HATE IN THE US) Once in the United States, Rahman rose to a position of prominence in the Islamic communities centered in northern New Jersey and parts of New York City. During the early 1990s, Rahman was one of a number of radical imams who appeared at Arab American gatherings across the US, "collecting money and preaching religious views antagonistic to the United States and its interests," a former FBI official said. Two of Rahman's sons went to Afghanistan to work with bin Laden, and one would later be pictured at bin Laden's side - "FBI Wary of Investigating Extremist Muslim Leaders: Agency May Rethink Hesitancy on Religious Figures," By Walter Pincus, Washington Post Staff Writer, Monday, October 29, 2001; Page A04
1990s : (TEXAS, AL-HALLAK, EL-HAGE, BIN LADEN) Moataz Al-Hallak, funamentalist Islamic cleric, ran a mosque in Arlington, Tex., where at one time he assisted in the purchase of a small airplane requested by Wadih El-Hage, then bin Laden's personal secretary. Witnesses in the embassy bombings trial also identified Moataz Al-Hallak as a fundamentalist cleric in the US with ties to bin Laden. - "FBI Wary of Investigating Extremist Muslim Leaders: Agency May Rethink Hesitancy on Religious Figures," By Walter Pincus, Washington Post Staff Writer, Monday, October 29, 2001; Page A04
JANUARY 31, 1990. (ARIZONA, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) Rashad Khalifa, controversial Muslim leader in Tucson, Ariz., is stabbed to death.
? 1990 : (NOSAIR, NY KAHANE ASSASSINATION, RAHMAN) ElSayyid A. Nosair assassinates Jewish activist Meir Kahane in New York. Nosair is a follower of Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, who later is linked to the first WTC bombing and a bomb plot against the UN in NY.
MARCH 1990 : (IRAQIS ARRESTED TRYING TO SMUGGLE CAPACITORS THROUGH LONDON) Iraq is caught trying to smuggle military-standard and specification detonation capacitors from CSI Technologies of San Marcos, California. The capacitors' many applications include nuclear weapons as well as conventional warheads and military laser systems. An implosion system can use this type of detonation capacitor, which stores large amounts of electrical energy, with a high-speed electronic switch, called a "krytron." This assembly can supply within a fraction of a microsecond a burst of electrical energy to the detonator or blasting cap which sets off the conventional high explosives. Following an 18-month undercover investigation by the U.S. Customs Service in collaboration with the British government, five persons were arrested in London and the capacitors they were carrying—they had been given dummies instead of real ones—were confiscated. Customs officials identified the end-users for the capacitors as the Al Qaqaa State Establishment, the top-secret facility involved in developing missiles and explosives for Iraq's Ministry of Industry and Military Industrialization. German intelligence believes that Al Qaqaa, which has experience with modern conventional high explosive and high-speed measurement technologies, was given responsibility to develop the non-nuclear components of a nuclear explosive device. - "Iraq and the Bomb: Were They Even Close?", By David Albright and Mark Hibbs, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, March 1991, Volume 47, No. 2, pp. 16-25
MARCH 30, 1990 : (MASSACHUSETTS, JAMAAT AL FUQRA-RELATED ATTACK) The Islamic center in Quincy, Mass., is attacked
(And this is just a sampler mainly from my jamaat al Fuqra files, but they were not the ONLY group in the US)
The jihad assaults against the U.S. Marines in Beirut, U.S. Airmen in Saudi Arabia, and U.S. Navy in Yemen were in opposition to U.S. military occupation in Islamic nations.
Horsecrap, the US had gone into Lebanon to rescue Arafat's sorry but from Israel. As thanks, our embassy and our barracks were bombed, and the stinking Syrians shot down some of our aircraft and captured some pilots. The Beirut bombings were done at the behest of Syria, and the issue was over Syria OCCUPYING the country of Lebanon and using it as a base from which to launch attacks on Israel. Syrian and Iranian backed terrorists in Lebanon massacred the Lebanese army, the Christians, detroyed their churches, killed their priests, and the place has been a mess ever since, even now the only complaint from the Arab world is "how dare the Christian Lebanese fight back and how dare Sharon let them do it."
Terrorists are not representatives of anyone and as such have been given no legitimate authority, not from government nor from the people under such governments. It simply isn't up to them to determine what is and what is not 'occupation' and they have no right to protest against anything but their own government. It is their government's responsibility to act, not theirs. Terrorists neither have the official sanction of government in so-called 'occupied' countries nor the elected authority of the people in 'occupied' countries whom they falsely claim to represent. That's why they are illegitimate- they have been given no power, no authority by the people.
The attack on the US embassy in Beirut, by the way, was planned by Imad Mugniyah. He was one of Arafat's followers in the Fatah organization before coming onto Hezbollah, and is unofficially backed by Iran and Syria. But he has no official backing, nor any elected backing, which means that he's illegitimate and is no Islamic 'patriot.' He was a participant in the Cold War on the side of the communists, although he himself is more of a nationalist; it was an enemy of my enemy sort of thing. Imad Mugniyah is NOT an Islamic religious terrorist. Neither is Arafat. They are in it for other reasons, and the Koran is not one of them.
The US is not OCCUPYING any Islamic nation against that nation's wishes, nor was it doing so then. The fact is, Islamic terrorists are OUTLAWS. Their actions are no different than if a US citizen decided to bomb the Canadian embassy in DC, or the Australian embassy because an Aussie aircraft carrier was visiting Norfolk. Arab terrorist actions are no different than if a German citizen decided to bomb NATO headquarters or NATO bases. No different than if a US citizen bombed the Saudi embassy in DC for their operation of Madrassas in the US. Heck, US citizens have never even bombed an Iraqi embassy in the US. Why? Because we're not terrorists.
There are many ancient Arab sayings - the thrust of many being: If you don't want trouble with Arabs, leave them alone.
Here's an old American one the Arabs would do well to learn: Don't tread on me." Add to that, "...or America will kick your ass."
Not since the Goebbels and Hitler stage-production of the invasion of Poland, has the world witnessed such a snow job by the cast of George "mini-me" Bush and company trying to justify a second blitz of Iraq.
The only snow I see is coming from Bo Gritz.
They have failed to tie Saddam with Al-Qaeda,
I guess in Bo Gritz's world, we would never have fought Italy and Germany because we couldn't prove they were directly responsible for Pearl Harbor, nevermind the axis and nevermind those incidents with German subs that preceded our part in WW2. We never said we had to tie Iraq in with al Qaeda, for the obvious reason that al Qaeda was not alone in using terrorism against the US, not even alone on 9/11. We're looking for everyone responsible for 9/11 and that includes states and persons 'unknown.'
But nonetheless, we did find that al Qaeda was training in Iraq, we did find that Iraqi officials traveled to meetings in Afghanistan with the Taliban, we did find that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Atta the 911 hijacker, we do know that Iraq was trying to attack Radio Free Europe, we have found that Yousef (entered the US on an Iraqi passport) of WTC-1 fame, we do know that Iraq tried to assassinate a former US president, and we do know Iraq was backing Abu Nidal which has indeed carried out operations in the United States against US citizens.
JANUARY 2000 : (IRAQI AHMAD HIKMAT SHAKIR, MALAYSIA) U.S. officials said Shakir was present at a January 2000 al Qaeda "summit" in Malaysia that was attended by two of the 9/11 hijackers. Authorities believe the summit may have been a planning session for both the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole and 9/11. - "Iraqi a Missing Link," by Aly Sujo, NY Post
OCTOBER 2001 early : (SALMAN PAK, IRAQ) : Two Iraqi National Congress activists in London travelled to eastern Turkey. They had been told that a Mukhabarat colonel had crossed the border through Kurdistan and was ready to defect. The officer - codenamed Abu Zeinab - had extraordinary information about terrorist training in Iraq. In a safe house in Ankara, the two London-based activists took down Zeinab's story. He had worked at a site which was already well known - Salman Pak, a large camp on a peninsular formed by a loop of the Tigris river south of Baghdad.
However, what Zeinab had to say about the southern part of the camp was new. There, he said, separated from the rest of the facilities by a razor-wire fence, was a barracks used to house Islamic radicals, many of them Saudis from bin Laden's Wahhabi sect, but also Egyptians, Yemenis, and other non-Iraqi Arabs.
Unlike the other parts of Salman Pak, Zeinab said the foreigners' camp was controlled directly by Saddam Hussein. In a telephone interview with The Observer, Zeinab described the culture clash which took place when secular Baathists tried to train fundamentalists: 'It was a nightmare! A very strange experience. These guys would stop and insist on praying to Allah five times a day when we had training to do. The instructors wouldn't get home till late at night, just because of all this praying.'
Asked whether he believed the foreigners' camp had trained members of al-Qaeda, Zeinab said: 'All I can say is that we had no structure to take on these people inside the regime. The camp was for organisations based abroad.' One of the highlights of the six-month curriculum was training to hijack aircraft using only knives or bare hands. According to Zeinab, women were also trained in these techniques. Like the 11 September hijackers, the students worked in groups of four or five.
In Ankara, Zeinab was debriefed by the FBI and CIA for four days. Meanwhile he told the INC that if they wished to corroborate his story, they should speak to a man who had political asylum in Texas - Captain Sabah Khodad, who had worked at Salman Pak in 1994-5. He too has now told his story to US investigators. In an interiew with The Observer, he echoed Zeinab's claims.
Zeinab and Khodad said the Salman Pak students practised their techniques in a Boeing 707 fuselage parked in the foreigners' part of the camp. Yesterday their story received important corroboration from Charles Duelfer, former vice chairman of Unscom, the UN weapons inspection team.
Duelfer said he visited Salman Pak several times, landing by helicopter. He saw the 707, in exactly the place described by the defectors. The Iraqis, he said, told Unscom it was used by police for counter-terrorist training. 'Of course we automatically took out the word "counter",' he said. 'I'm surprised that people seem to be shocked that there should be terror camps in Iraq. -"The Iraqi Connection" The Observer http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/741676/posts?page=1
OCTOBER 2001 : (IRAQI AHMAD HIKMAT SHAKIR, JORDAN) The Iraqi, Ahmad Hikmat Shakir, 37, was picked up October 2001 in Amman, and his passport showed he had recently traveled to Pakistan, Yemen and Malaysia, all key terror trouble spots. A search of one of his apartments turned up telephone records linking him to suspects in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing as well as a 1994 Philippine-based plot to blow up civilian airlines over the Pacific Ocean. - "Iraqi a Missing Link," by Aly Sujo, NY Post
NOVEMBER 2001 : (JORDAN, IRAQI SHAKIR, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL) Amnesty International wrote to the Minister of Interior in November seeking assurances that Ahmad Hikmat Shakir was being humanely treated and not subjected to any kind of ill-treatment or torture as well as seeking information about his whereabouts, the reasons for his arrest, and whether any charges had been brought against him. By the end of January 2002 no reply had been received.
SEPTEMBER 26, 2002 Thursday : (IRAQ, AL-QAEDA) WASHINGTON, (Reuters) - Senior al Qaeda leaders have been in Baghdad "in recent periods," U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Thursday. "We certainly have evidence of senior al Qaeda who have been in Baghdad in recent periods. Whether they're currently there or not one never knows, because they're moving targets," he said, of the movement blamed by Washington for the Sept. 11 attacks on America that killed around 3,000 people. "If you're asking if it (intelligence) is current -- in the last period of days or weeks -- the answer is yes," the secretary said. ((Charles Aldinger, Washington newsroom, charles.aldinger@reuters.com)
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