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Ex-Senator (Lautenberg) to Replace Torricelli
AP via Yahoo ^ | 10/01/02 | JOHN P. McALPIN

Posted on 10/01/2002 6:03:54 PM PDT by eddie willers

Ex-Senator to Replace Torricelli
Tue Oct 1, 8:52 PM ET

By JOHN P. McALPIN, Associated Press Writer

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - Desperate to keep their single-seat majority in the Senate, Democrats have chosen former Sen. Frank Lautenberg to replace scandal-tainted Sen. Robert Torricelli ( news, bio, voting record) on the November ballot, The Associated Press has learned.

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The decision was reached Tuesday evening after a full day of meetings among top state Democrats, according to a party source familiar with the discussions.

An announcement was expected later Tuesday.

Earlier in the day, the 78-year-old Lautenberg indicated he was ready to run.

"I was there (in the Senate) 18 years, and I enjoyed virtually every day," Lautenberg said in a telephone interview from his car as he headed to the governor's mansion for meetings with top state Democrats. "I didn't like raising the money, but I'm not going to mind it as much this time, because it's kind of fresh start."

Whether Lautenberg's name will actually appear the ballot with Republican Douglas Forrester will be decided in court. Republicans say it is too late to replace Torricelli, who dropped out Monday as his poll numbers continued to fall amid questions about his ethics.

The New Jersey Supreme Court will hear arguments on the case Wednesday.

Sen. William Frist, chairman of the Senate GOP campaign committee, said Republicans would consider an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court ( news - web sites) if the New Jersey court rules in favor of the Democrats.

"This is a desperate grasp at getting around the law and the people of New Jersey are tired of having their leaders go around the law," he said.

Frist said some absentee ballots have already been cast and that other ballots have been distributed to military personnel overseas; the New Jersey Association of County Clerks said about 1,600 absentee ballots were mailed out.

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., said that by objecting to Torricelli's request, Republicans were "denying the people of New Jersey a choice" in the election.

Five months ago, Torricelli's Senate seat was considered relatively safe. But support plummeted after he was admonished by the Senate ethics committee for his relationship with a 1996 campaign supporter, and he soon became the most vulnerable incumbent in the country.

Few, however, expected a court fight five weeks before Election Day.

"This is one for the books," said Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia. "It will long be remembered."

Under New Jersey law, a party can replace a statewide nominee on the ballot if the person drops out at least 51 days before the election. Torricelli missed the deadline by 15 days.

However, Democrats say decades of state court decisions put voters' rights above filing deadlines and other technical guidelines.

Attorney General David Samson argued in papers filed with the court Tuesday that the justices have the power to relax the deadline to withdraw and allow Democrats to post another candidate. Samson, who was appointed to his job by Democratic Gov. James E. McGreevey, said election laws have long been interpreted liberally to allow voters every opportunity.

Legal experts agreed.

"In a substantial number of those cases, the courts have ruled on the side of being inclusive," said Richard Perr, an election law professor at Rutgers University Law School.

Six of the seven justices on the state's highest court were appointed by a former Republican governor.

Lautenberg's selection as the potential Democratic savior is replete with irony. He and Torricelli feuded openly while serving together.

"I'm not in a gloating mode," Lautenberg said. "I don't want to be smug about this. It was unfortunate for him and an unfortunate thing for all of us."

Lautenberg is a supporter of abortion rights and staunch opponent of the death penalty. He brings two major strengths to the difficult bid: statewide name recognition and a huge reserve of personal wealth he can use in the campaign. Also, unlike the House members who were also considered as substitute candidates, he does not have anything to lose by running and losing.

Lautenberg was a business executive before serving three terms in the Senate, deciding against a re-election bid in 2000. He counted among his accomplishments a law requiring companies to disclose chemicals they release into the environment, a law banning smoking on domestic flights and a law banning gun ownership by those convicted of domestic violence.


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To: PMCarey
I disagree. They are desperate and have no more idea of how the court will rule than you and I do. They only know one thing: Torricelli is going to lose. That's one of the greatest sins of a Democrat. Almost everything else can fall (well maybe not abortion) to the desire for power. Faced with certain loss, they panicked and instituted this scheme. Look at how many candidates they had to go through before getting Lautenberg to agree. Does that sound like a party that knows what it's doing? Any why have Torricelli give the Saturday radio address when they were going to dump him two days later. Why not give that address to a candidate who was actually going to run for something? Nope this is the Hail Mary pass from a party that has run out of options.

I agree with you. Think about it -- what would have been a graceful way to get the Torch off the ballot, and somebody else on? How about Torricelli claiming to be in ill health, and that this mystery disease is keeping him from running again? The Dems would shout down anybody who questioned the illness, and they would get the sympathy vote factor. It seems like it would be much easier politically to get a new candidate on the ballot if Torricelli had said he was in ill health.

461 posted on 10/01/2002 11:59:57 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Libloather
"...a desperate grasp at [BREAKING] the law"

I'm increasingly convinced that this is a smokescreen, wherein the RATS make the news by disingenuously proposing an indefensible argument that their Base is too STOOOOPID to understand is inarguably unsupportable in Law, and thereby divertin' attention from other political vulnerabilities.

So, what else are the RATS hidin' that they don't want discovered before 11/5/02?!

FReegards...MUD

462 posted on 10/02/2002 12:28:42 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Torie
>The NJSC knows it cannot reder the 51 day rule unconstitutional under the NJ Constitution after SCOTUS educated us all on that.

The states can set their own rules for electing Senators. However once set, the rules must be followed. I guess that if the NJSC voids the 51 day rule the USSC could get involved, forcing NJ to follow its own election laws.

463 posted on 10/02/2002 1:03:40 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: marajade
If they pull this off we're going to have a whole new way of running elections. Tag-teaming. Oy Vey!
464 posted on 10/02/2002 1:34:36 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Torie
There can be a separate federal case brought for violations of federal law. That case would start in the lower federal courts.
465 posted on 10/02/2002 2:25:55 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Torie
I don't think that argument works. I don't think there's any need for a special election for the few months remaining of Torch's term.
466 posted on 10/02/2002 2:55:30 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Miss Marple
I don't think it's entirely up to Forrester and the Republicans whether the decision is appealed to the SCOTUS. Other parties who have a case that their rights under federal law are violated could also appeal: that would include the minor-party candidates, it would include NJ absentee voters, including military voters, it would arguably include all NJ voters.
467 posted on 10/02/2002 2:58:45 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: LenS
Since the NJ Supreme Court has chosen to step in, the only court that can review their decision is the USSC. So the 3rd Circuit can't step in there.

A parallel case can be brought in the lower federal courts. If the NJ courts rule one way, and the federal courts the other, federal law governs.

468 posted on 10/02/2002 3:01:31 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: eddie willers
- Desperate to keep their single-seat majority in the Senate, Demoncrats have chosen former Sen. Frank Lautenberg to replace scandal-tainted Sen. Robert Torricelli...

Never mind that Torricelli was the Democratically elected candidate and that the choice and desire of the people is hardly an issue here for the DNC.

The Democrats: Party of Disenfranchisement.

469 posted on 10/02/2002 3:10:48 AM PDT by Caipirabob
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To: Torie; Smedley
I see that you argued this point later in the thread with Smedley. I think Smedley is clearly correct.
470 posted on 10/02/2002 3:17:16 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Brytani
The only acceptable and ethical reason I can see for removing a candidate after a primary and putting another candidate on before the election is in the case of death of the candidate...

The Torch is too close to NY for this to have not been considered as part of the equation. I don't imagine he sleeps too well these days..

471 posted on 10/02/2002 3:19:17 AM PDT by Caipirabob
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To: eddie willers
Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., said that by objecting to Torricelli's request, Republicans were "denying the people of New Jersey a choice" in the election.

Under this logic Jim Jeffords should be forced to re-join the Republican party, as the peoples choice to have a Republican in office was negated.

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Flyer

472 posted on 10/02/2002 4:15:12 AM PDT by Flyer
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To: shrinkermd
The election process is doomed.
473 posted on 10/02/2002 5:30:39 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Guy Angelito
Yup, Lausenberg sounds senile..........AND he ran against Millicent Fenwick for his first Senate seat claiming SHE was too old...........I believe she ws in her 60s.....
474 posted on 10/02/2002 5:34:58 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
"The Clintonista Rats create messes like this on purpose. These messes give them the ability to demagogue."

Exactly. Torricelli drops out and the dems let him, knowing of the law banning replacement within 51 days. So they took away the choice from the NJ voters, but they use this to demagogue that the Repubs want to take away choice for asking that the law be upheld. So, according to the dems, the person who makes the mess is OK, but the person who refuses to clean it up is the demon. Pass the buck. Truman said the buck stops here, the new dem party slogan, "the buck never got here".
475 posted on 10/02/2002 6:07:04 AM PDT by Skeptical constituent
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To: aristeides; Miss Marple; PhiKapMom; Jim Robinson
To put it bluntly, it is "bait and switch" campaigning by the Democrats. If a business did this, it would rightfully be shut down and the owners would be lucky not to be in a 8-foot by 10-foot cell with a guy who says, "My name is Spike, honey."

The Democrats in New Jersey are using one of the sleaziest forms of corrupt business practices to save the Senate. How can anyone trust them?

Vote out the "bait and switch" Democrats!!
476 posted on 10/02/2002 6:16:45 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
Bait and Switch it is! Just more of the rotting from the core of the Clinton DemocRAT Party.

The Clinton DemocRAT Party and their Unions have put their Party and Power above the Rule of Law and the United States of America. The Clinton DemocRAT Party is now the party of do whatever it takes to win!
477 posted on 10/02/2002 7:14:12 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: umgud
If Lautenberg doesn't do as well in the polls as the DNC would like.......can they replace him too before the election?

Actually, we may yet have to contend with Bill Clinton. Remember, Torch talked with him late Sunday night. And from what I've heard, he's eligible to hold office in the state of NJ b/c of property he owns there.

478 posted on 10/02/2002 7:20:45 AM PDT by twigs
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To: eddie willers
Surprise outcome: They will rule Lousenberg "incompetent" and unfit for office. Sheesh, I listened to his announcement speech and was astounded by his incoherency. Did anyone even tell him about the potential war in IRAQ? One would think that a person living in N.J. would have been aware of the terrorist attacks as well.

All he said, and he didn't do a good job, is that he is against pollution, for a women's right to have unfettered abortions, and that Republicans are evil and only New Jersey can prevent the GOP takeover of the Senate.

479 posted on 10/02/2002 7:21:48 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Conservative_Rob
I'm listening to Frank Lautenberg announce his candidancy right now and he sounds like he is on drugs. What's going on?????

Surprise outcome: They will rule Lousenberg "incompetent" and unfit for office. Sheesh, I listened to his announcement speech and was astounded by his incoherency. Did anyone even tell him about the potential war in IRAQ? One would think that a person living in N.J. would have been aware of the terrorist attacks as well.

All he said, and he didn't do a good job, is that he is against pollution, for a women's right to have unfettered abortions, and that Republicans are evil and only New Jersey can prevent the GOP takeover of the Senate.

480 posted on 10/02/2002 7:22:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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