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Another incident that will make the drug warriors swell with pride.
1 posted on 10/01/2002 7:16:59 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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Here we go ..................
2 posted on 10/01/2002 7:18:27 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: *Wod_list; *libertarians
Fighting the Drug War one dead pot smokier at a time. But despite the hardships of the fighting trenches, there is at least some time for levity ... with the cops high-fiving one another for their latest kill.
3 posted on 10/01/2002 7:20:32 AM PDT by coloradan
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quantities of packaging items used in the distribution of marijuana.

AHA!

Sad story. About 10 years ago that could have been me. Big old house full of hippies coming and going. Used to be you hang out with dogs, you get fleas. Now you might just get killed.

4 posted on 10/01/2002 7:21:59 AM PDT by Huck
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And the slime and slimette along with their band of thugs are atill free to make millions. Isn't our injustice system wonderful?
5 posted on 10/01/2002 7:23:08 AM PDT by poet
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Meanwhile, in a halfway house in Florida, hardened cokehead and recidivist scofflaw Noelle Bush calls for more bon-bons as she paints her nails red, white, and blue.
7 posted on 10/01/2002 7:23:37 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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The cops are smoking and joking, high-fiving each other.

A little bit of hypocrisy there for you ... while the cops murder someone for being involved with drugs, they themselves flaunt their own addicition, which by the way kills a lot more people each year than pot does - or all illegal drugs combined for that matter.

And the War On (some) Drugs continues.

8 posted on 10/01/2002 7:23:41 AM PDT by coloradan
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Lots of thoughts in my head.....wonder if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will show any interest in this case. Oh yeah, hippies are white. Who cares.
9 posted on 10/01/2002 7:23:58 AM PDT by Huck
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"They said the packaging police referred to was a box of plastic
sandwich bags."

How much money do we spend a year so these "cops" can run their "war on drugs"? Seems like a lot to stop a couple of kids from smoking a little pot. And those sandwich bags, oh I mean "packaging material", really is the smoking gun for this raid. Everyone knows it's highly illegal to have zip-lock bags in your pad. Well done "no education needed" police officers. Sure am glad they're taking 35% of my pay to fund stuff like this. Unbelievable.....
12 posted on 10/01/2002 7:30:27 AM PDT by walkingdead
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Hey, it's the law. If the law says run nig***s out of town, the cops do it. If the law says booze is illegal, the cops do it, if tomorrow booze is legal, they do it. If the law says round up the Jews, they do it.

Cops have given up their responsibility to think and weigh their actions in ethical and moral values. Blind obedience defines one's self as a slave, or worse. But what are they going to do, quit? Where would the average cop make the money they make without having to bust hump or hustle?

< insert sound of heel click, here >
13 posted on 10/01/2002 7:33:06 AM PDT by Leisler
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What if the police are telling the truth? That they raided the house, someone had a gun in their own home, so they shot him. It's unjustified homicide either way. Could they not anticipate that someone might have a gun in their own home in southern Ohio? It's not like the guy was shooting at the cops.
17 posted on 10/01/2002 7:34:50 AM PDT by Liberty Al
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There is no reason why the police need to storm a house in the middle of the night, increasing the likelyhood that something like this will happen.

What, the man never walks out of his house, gets in his car and goes down to the local convenicence store? Of course he does, most likely every day. The police had many opportunities to apprehend this man peacefully.

They choose instead to bust in doors.

Too many have been killed like this. The practice needs to be stopped unless it can be shown that it is the safest way to apprehend someone. That will rarely be shown to be the case.

Reno raid on Waco; Police raid on this house: Its the same, only on a smaller scale.
19 posted on 10/01/2002 7:42:18 AM PDT by BJungNan
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You know, there's one more thing we're missing. No where in this whole report do I see that the cops told him to drop his gun. (persuming he did in fact have one, which may not even be true) Isn't that some kind of standard procedure? Seems like they shot him pretty quickly, before they could even identify themselves. I mean, it's not like these cops were taking down Tony Mantana's pad. (Scarface)

27 posted on 10/01/2002 7:56:53 AM PDT by walkingdead
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What's the significance of being 23 years old?
28 posted on 10/01/2002 7:59:25 AM PDT by Consort
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I know a few LEO's from the shooting range and a few more from community groups. The majority of them are nice people who are trying to make a positive contribution to society.

It's very possible that the shooter in this case was a good person who made a mistake. Perhaps ultimately the mistake was made by the people in charge of this raid. Regardless the result was a death of a human being.

What is most likely to happen is that the shooter will be put on paid leave until the shooting is ruled justified. This is usually just a formality (in the case of a rural, white, "druggie") No justice was served in this raid, and no justice will be forthcoming in the death of the victim.

As much as I respect the LEO's I know, I despise that they are now an elite class that are above the law.

31 posted on 10/01/2002 8:02:09 AM PDT by Durus
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Hey I'm 23 AND I've smoked weed before! Shoot me!
37 posted on 10/01/2002 8:11:48 AM PDT by BlessingInDisguise
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"Albert, who completed four months of Navy Seal training,"....which means he didn't finish.

"quantities of packaging items used in the distribution of marijuana" .... you mean those plastic sandwich baggies they sell in the supermarket? Are these no knock raids necessary?

52 posted on 10/01/2002 8:26:21 AM PDT by jjm2111
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Dozens protest Preble County police shooting

Dozens?

Where's the outrage over this senseless killing, this murder by the "jack-booted thugs" of a useless war?

Why is it that only "dozens" of people are concerned over the vicious tactics used by police?

(sarcasm off)

69 posted on 10/01/2002 8:53:49 AM PDT by A2J
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Noelle Bush gets away with Felony Fraud and Felony Possession of Crack Cocaine while this poor kid get's blown away by some brain dead pig.
71 posted on 10/01/2002 8:54:11 AM PDT by The FRugitive
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^5
HIGH Five
or
Zeig Heil!
click your
heels in
the blood
today for
tomorrow
follows and
freedom flows
faster upon sorrows.


The WOD is an unconstitutional and truly evil war against CITIZENS of this great country.

GOD MADE HERB
GOD SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD
GOD GAVE IT TO MAN

Genesis 1:11
Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth"; and it was so.

Genesis 1:12
And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:29
And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.
74 posted on 10/01/2002 8:57:35 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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police said the 1997 Twin Valley South High School graduate held a 9 mm handgun, not a blue cup, in his right hand when he descended the dimly lighted stairs. Roommates said Helriggle owned a 9 mm gun, but that it was upstairs when police entered their house.

The old "I smoked but didn't inhale" excuse sure gets used in a multitude of variations.

Possession of illicit drugs and firearms is a sure prescription for suicide by cop.
IMHO, these young adults shoulda known better and merely suffered the consequences of their own actions.

81 posted on 10/01/2002 9:04:03 AM PDT by Willie Green
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