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Twenty-three year old man shot dead by police in a marijuana raid
Dayton Daily News ^ | 10/01/02 | Cathy Mong

Posted on 10/01/2002 7:16:59 AM PDT by Phantom Lord

Dozens protest Preble County police shooting

Slain man’s roommates say he was unarmed

EATON | Preble County law-enforcement officials declined to talk publicly Monday as they turned information about Friday's fatal shooting by a police officer of a 23-year-old man over to detectives from the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office.

Montgomery County investigators, called in by Preble County Sheriff Tom Hayes, also said they would not talk about their review of the shooting by a member of a Preble County's emergency services group — officers from a number of police departments who are trained to handle drownings and hostage and other situations.

However, it was anything but quiet outside the Preble County Courthouse, where dozens of friends and relatives picketed and said that police were covering up what happened to Clayton Jacob Helriggle, 23, of 1282 Ohio 503 South.

The protesters disputed police claims that Helriggle had a gun when he descended a stairwell and was shot by a Lewisburg police officer, whose identity has not been released. Friends and relatives on Monday carried blue plastic cups similar to the one they said Helriggle had in his hand Friday night.

Among the protesters were four of Helriggle's roommates, three of whom said they were inside the brick farmhouse when police stormed the house to serve a warrant to search for narcotics.

Maj. Wayne Simpson of the Preble County Sheriff's Office declined to discuss information about what happened Friday night and said a report on the shooting of the Preble County man had not been completed. Preble County Prosecutor Rebecca Ferguson said she sealed the search warrant after the shooting, and had no comment regarding the investigation.

"They're a professional group of officers, that's what their job is, and I'm not going to second-guess them. Whatever (Montgomery County officials) come up with, they come up with," Ferguson said.

Friends called Helriggle "peaceful and nonviolent," but police said the 1997 Twin Valley South High School graduate held a 9 mm handgun, not a blue cup, in his right hand when he descended the dimly lighted stairs. Roommates said Helriggle owned a 9 mm gun, but that it was upstairs when police entered their house.

"It's like we were armed, hardened criminals waiting inside to take them on," said Wes Bradley, 26, who lived in the bottom of the six-bedroom farmhouse with his girlfriend, 22-year-old Tasha Webster.

Bradley said he and Webster were near the kitchen next to the stairs, when officers "broke through the back door with battering rams and started throwing in flash grenades three at a time, to blind us."

The officers wore full body armor and carried shields, he said.

Another roommate, Ian Albert, said he had returned home from the grocery store with Chris Elmore, 24, who remained outside while Albert ran into the house.

"We saw at least two paddy wagon-type vehicles, like a SWAT bus," Elmore said. "About 30 officers stormed out of the woods" surrounding the farmhouse. "They'd cut the barbed wire, and you could see a staging area, like where 25 to 30 uniformed cops had been lying down and slithered along the grass."

Officers ordered Elmore to get on the ground, and he said he heard three pops, which he said could have been the flash grenades and gunshot.

"I yelled 'Nobody's armed,' and they told me, 'Shut up, shut up.' ”

Elmore described the action "like a movie, in slow motion."

Inside, Albert said, the police threw him against the staircase, "with my head on the second step up. I wanted to yell at Clay, but I looked up and saw him, rounding the stairway, and he had this look on his face, like, 'What's going on?' and the cops yelled, 'Get down' and then 'boom.' ”

Albert, who completed four months of Navy Seal training, said he reached up for Helriggle, "and I tried to apply pressure," he said, placing his left palm on his right chest, where Helriggle was struck by the gunshot.

"He died in my arms," he said. "It took about two minutes."

Albert said he was placed in a sheriff's car, and Helriggle's parents arrived.

"They saw me, drenched in Clay's blood, and they ask me, 'Is he all right?' and I just shook my head. The cops are smoking and joking, high-fiving each other. Wow, I think, they took down a farm of unarmed hippies.

"If they would have come to the door and said, 'Give us your dope, hippies,' we'd have gotten about a $100 ticket."

Police said they confiscated a small amount of marijuana, pills, drug paraphernalia and quantities of packaging items used in the distribution of marijuana.

The four roommates said they smoke marijuana from time to time and that they had marijuana pipes in the house. Bradley said he had a prescription for Fiorocet, a codeinelike painkiller, for a bad knee. They said the packaging police referred to was a box of plastic sandwich bags.

Webster said there was nothing in the house "that a good divorce lawyer couldn't have gotten us out on a misdemeanor," and said an old shotgun and a .22-caliber rifle found there were used for hunting.

"We target-practiced outside all the time, shot at bales of hay, jugs, that sort of thing," Webster said.

Bradley and Webster said Helriggle took a nap around 5 p.m. and had made plans to meet his girlfriend later.

"I'm not sure if he woke up from the bashing on the door or what," Bradley said.

All four said they were not read their rights or told what charges were filed against them. They were released from the Preble County Jail around 1:30 a.m. Saturday. No criminal charges have been filed.

Nancy Fahrenholz, the daughter of Everett "Bill" Fahrenholz, an attorney and former country prosecutor, hugged Bradley on Monday at the courthouse. Helriggle and five roommates rented the house from the Fahrenholzes.

"I'm so sorry," said Fahrenholz, a Rhode Island resident in the area to finish up the estate of her father, Bill Fahrenholz, who died a month ago.

"(Dad) would have been furious at this," she said. "We're all very distressed."

She said Helriggle "was a really nice guy," and that her family was pleased with the five young people's work on rehabilitating the farmhouse.

Helriggle's 77-year-old grandfather, Donald, a Miamisburg resident and Ohio Bell retiree, said his grandson rented the farmhouse "so they could play their instruments, listen to their music and drink a little beer. . . . They just wanted to be doing what 23-year-olds do."


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To: Phantom Lord
police said the 1997 Twin Valley South High School graduate held a 9 mm handgun, not a blue cup, in his right hand when he descended the dimly lighted stairs. Roommates said Helriggle owned a 9 mm gun, but that it was upstairs when police entered their house.

The old "I smoked but didn't inhale" excuse sure gets used in a multitude of variations.

Possession of illicit drugs and firearms is a sure prescription for suicide by cop.
IMHO, these young adults shoulda known better and merely suffered the consequences of their own actions.

81 posted on 10/01/2002 9:04:03 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: The FRugitive
You?d better watch out, being all cocky and grabbing that .357 when you hear people prowling around your house. Don?t you know your place? You are supposed to be a sheepel! And for heavens sake, get rid of that cop killin, baby bashing .357. And why do you need a magnum anyway.... the cops will save you...... ?sarcasm off?
82 posted on 10/01/2002 9:05:29 AM PDT by walkingdead
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To: Willie Green
Possession of illicit drugs and firearms is a sure prescription for suicide by cop. IMHO, these young adults shoulda known better and merely suffered the consequences of their own actions.

When the law says that posession of illicit drugs concurrent with possession of firearms is punishible by summary execution, you will be correct.

83 posted on 10/01/2002 9:08:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: A2J
Why should anyone care what you think, given the stupidity you emit here regularly?
84 posted on 10/01/2002 9:09:01 AM PDT by apochromat
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To: AdA$tra
Do you have a link to that story?
85 posted on 10/01/2002 9:09:59 AM PDT by The FRugitive
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Phantom Lord
A. Cops did not use their heads, someone got killed because of poor planning.

B. Those kids knew they were acting illegally and should have known better. They put themselves and others at risk.

Like it or not they were breaking the law. Whether or not the law is a good one is not the issue (it is THE issue overall). The cops were wrong, the kids were wrong.

That said - those cops were professionals and failed miserably in their duties to protect and serve. And as stupid as the WOD can be those kids could have lived without putting themselves in jeopardy, they did not need the dope and if they truly wanted to make change to the laws so they could do it they would have done it the american way - grass roots (no pun intended), lobbying, getting support from people, showing others the fallacy of the drug wars (see http://www.szasz.com ).

I think we should have simple conceal carry in Ohio, no paperwork needed, etc - we don't. But in the meantime I am not toting one around under my coat.

Disagreeing with a law and working to overturn it is one thing, breaking it because your too lazy to fight it is another.

And yes, I am ashamed at the police force in this country for not putting a stop to the stupidity they are involved in - and equally sad at those who are too lazy to use the american system to fight for change.

Done ranting and making no sense, time for me to go home and get some sleep!

86 posted on 10/01/2002 9:12:59 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: MrLeRoy
I've told you guys before: don't feed these trolls. Even if they make incredibly stupid comments. The crack about the Navy Seal training really pissed me off, though. ANYONE who's gone through 4 MONTHS of that training is not to be taken lightly. Most people who have to quit at that point had to drop because of a medical condition.

However, that seems to be these assholes' sole reason for being here: to piss us off. They are by far the dumbest, least educated, asshole jerks I have ever had the displeasure to run across. So ignore them, or go out of your way to get them banned. The crack about Navy seal training will not be taken lightly by REAL conservatives around here.

Sorry if I got a little hot, but I really take it personally when navy seal training gets disrespected like that.
87 posted on 10/01/2002 9:14:20 AM PDT by spodbox
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To: Phantom Lord; BlessingInDisguise
Hey I'm 23 AND I've smoked weed before! Shoot me!

You sir are worse than Hitler!

Yeah, a real nasty person. Just think how bad LEOs going feel after he has to shoot you. Almost as bad as the time he ran over a dog with his squad car. We will probably have to spend a bunch of tax money to send Five-Oh to therapy and it will all be your fault.

88 posted on 10/01/2002 9:15:45 AM PDT by putupon
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To: tacticalogic
Booo Hooo Hoooo.
I'm all teary-eyed for the druggie scofflaws.
89 posted on 10/01/2002 9:18:41 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Roscoe
If you've read one HG post, you've read them all.

I expect better from you. More substance.

Please tell us how the War on Drugs is a proper conservative issue or cause. We know that you're okay with it so long as the USSC doesn't apply the Lopez standard to the CSA. In lieu of that, can you make a conservative argument for the War on Drugs? Do you feel the solution (drug free USA) is worth the cost (sayonara Bill of Rights) and the precedent (application of drug war logic to other substances deemed harmful by the authorities) it sets?


90 posted on 10/01/2002 9:23:26 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: The FRugitive
I knew a guy in college who sold some MJ on the side to get his head for free. He wouldnt buy sandwhich bags. That was a while ago and I cant remember what he would put it in.
91 posted on 10/01/2002 9:27:07 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Dane
This is a tragic situation, a situation brought about by the glorification of drugs.

That has to be the lamest, liberal idiocy I’ve ever read.

Akin to saying a gang shooting is the result of a lack of midnight basketball.

This kid is dead because a gang of cops kicked in his door and shot him. That’s it. You’re little sociological excuse-making is pathetic.

92 posted on 10/01/2002 9:27:08 AM PDT by dead
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To: spodbox
Sorry if I got a little hot, but I really take it personally when navy seal training gets disrespected like that.

My guess is the doper may have washed-out of seal training due to drug abuse.
Your ire should be directed at HIM for disrespecting the training opportunity he had.

93 posted on 10/01/2002 9:28:15 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: A2J
RE: ...you'll see that the Scriptures you quoted are not in support of drug use.

TELL ME! Oh Bible Scholar, do the scriptures tell you it is O.K. to break down the door of your neighbor and shoot him dead because he enjoys the gifts and rights which God gave to him?
94 posted on 10/01/2002 9:28:17 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: Willie Green
I can tell. Believe it or not, I hope you get more consideration when your judgement day comes.
95 posted on 10/01/2002 9:28:20 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Willie Green
IMHO, these young adults shoulda known better and merely suffered the consequences of their own actions.

A kid was killed for being a known pot smoker. Yes, I see the equity there.

96 posted on 10/01/2002 9:29:15 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Kevin Curry
Beasts of cocaine, beasts of hashish,
Beasts of every dope we try,
Hearken to my joyful tidings
Of the golden future high.

Soon or late the day is coming,
And "The Man" shall be o'erthrown,
And the filthy streets of Randland
shall be trod by beasts alone.
97 posted on 10/01/2002 9:35:12 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
the USSC doesn't apply the Lopez standard to the CSA.

Of course not. Illicit drug use doesn't equal the right to keep and bear arms.

98 posted on 10/01/2002 9:37:57 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
A kid was killed for being a known pot smoker. Yes, I see the equity there.

It's no surprise that you ignore the role of the 9mm handgun in this event.

Druggies have notoriously short attention spans.

99 posted on 10/01/2002 9:38:24 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: A2J
Collateral damage is hardly anything to high-five about.

collateral damage is when the wrong person gets killed, this guy was the target. The cop who pulled the trigger killed the perp and his LEO pals were just congratulating him for making the world a safer place in the form of high fives and smokes.

100 posted on 10/01/2002 9:38:59 AM PDT by putupon
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