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2 posted on
09/29/2002 1:36:32 PM PDT by
terilyn
To: Richard Poe
3 posted on
09/29/2002 1:39:39 PM PDT by
JCG
To: Richard Poe
I don't know anything about being half-Jewish but one of my Great-grandmothers sisters married a Protestant from Virginua a 150 years ago and they don't acknowlege the family to this day. My mother married a Mormon and we are looked on as tainted by the Irish side of my family, no big thing.
To: Richard Poe
You have a large and expanding demographic base with which to work according to this
Study. Good luck.
5 posted on
09/29/2002 1:52:50 PM PDT by
Torie
To: Richard Poe
This convoluted logic is both astonishing and alarming - that genetic distinctions are both celebrated and reviled by the SAME people!
7 posted on
09/29/2002 2:13:56 PM PDT by
Phil V.
To: Richard Poe
Jewish tradition holds that there is no such thing as a half-Jew. You are either Jewish or Gentile......or maybe a Son of God. Go figure.
To: Richard Poe
Nice website they have. Jew this, Jew that. A few "n*ggers" thrown in for good measure.
It's a shame they don't have a chatroom. Oh, the havoc Freepers could wreak there.
To: Richard Poe
Why don't you invite some of them down............I see you have the Free Republic link on your homepage, they surely must have noticed that.
I'm sure they would love the opportunity to 'spread the word' amongst conservatives.
To: Richard Poe
I'm in the same boat. Rather then say "half-Jew" I just say that I'm half Hebrew.... not exactly accurate either as the Jewish/Hebrew half is mixed just like everything else (polish and such). I only identify myself as "half-hebrew" to explain some of the culturally differences to my southern inlaws.
To: Richard Poe
If you are a baptised Catholic, then you are a Christian with partial Jewishheritage, not a Jew.
As for VNN, ignore them. They are a bunch of neo-nazis.
12 posted on
09/29/2002 5:55:36 PM PDT by
rmlew
To: Richard Poe; Yehuda; Alouette; Nix 2; Cachelot
What are you asking? You're as much a half Jew as you are a half Catholic, or Hannah was a half Lutheran. It's not that tough to figure out.
BTW, I think resurecting a concept like modern-day mischlinge is contemptable, given its origin. The boy's over at VNN and their ilk would disagree though, Adolph had it right.
13 posted on
09/29/2002 5:59:27 PM PDT by
SJackson
To: Richard Poe
I haven't had time to read the whole post, but I would just like to tell you that I once posted that some of my Jewish friends in college told me that Jewish heritage was matrilinear and that they wanted to take me home to their families and introduce me as their girlfriend, just to shock them. (I am very blonde and my real name is very Irish). Anyway, the Jewish posters on this site jumped all over me and told me that I was nuts, that anyone could convert to Judaism if they wanted to.
15 posted on
09/29/2002 7:45:40 PM PDT by
Eva
To: Richard Poe
If you are confident in your own identity, why bother with those who dispute you? Your identity should not depend on their agreement with you.
As for the matrilineal thing....my understanding is that some (maybe all) Reformed Jews consider as Jewish those children with a Jewish father and a gentile mother. I had an argument with them once about this, because I consider God's decision on this matter one of the truly wonderful things in the Bible.
But, people have a right to define themselves religiously. And religious groups have a right to reject those who try to rewrite the rules, yes?
You can't be a half-Christian, so I doubt there's such a thing, really, as a half-Jew. You can be the child of a Christian, accept Christ as Saviour yourself, or join any other faith yourself; and you can be the child of a Jewish father, convert to Judaism or join any other faith.
You can't be half Jew; it's not quite like being half Italian. But, who am I to argue with you?
To: Richard Poe
Good for you for acknowledging both parts of your being. Jews are both a race and a religion, whether people like it or not, or acknowledge it or not. For, what is religious about a bagel? (A food associated with Jews.) What is religious about Tay-sachs? (A
genetic disease associated with Jews.) Take a look at pictures. Most Jews have a distinct "look" (or, used to.) If you take a whole egg and stir with some milk, it isn't now still one or the other....it is mixed. Why should one parent get acknowledged, and the other, not? They both make a child.
Also, it's an issue of "legitimacy." 'Cause if people can say it's just a religion, then that defeats "nationhood" and Jews as a unique people. (Which also goes back to the Land - Jew is shortened from Judean - Judea.)
This thing about "converting" - "Oy vey." So, if one says a few words over a cat, does it suddenly become a giraffe? It may now think it's a giraffe, it may develop a fondness for some giraffe-like living, but, funny, it still doesn't look like a giraffe, nor is it a giraffe-giraffe.
It's also a question of power and "belonging" - this "group" issue, no matter what group one is talking about.
There are other points, but, in the meantime....people are who they are. And, even some 100% Jews aren't so good...so, everybody's different, and everyone's living their life, and moving through it, (in most cases) as best they can.
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And, nobody has to lecture me about, "Oh, what about the black Ethiopian 'Jews,' etc., etc." Just like you're entitled to what you want to believe about "Who is a Jew?," I'm expressing my opinion, and ain't interested in a debate.
To: Richard Poe
In a FrontPageMagazine.com article, Jamie declared that he was a Christian Jew. The reaction was predictable a flood of letters telling him, "NO!"
Well what are his religous beliefs? What would you say to someone who called themselves a Catholic Lutheran?
To: Richard Poe
Wow. I've finally got my own minority club!
I knew that patience would pay off someday!
We should organize a Cha-NOO-kah and Christmas social.
To: Richard Poe
My father was of Russian-Jewish descent and my mother of Mexican-Catholic heritage I'm in a similiar boat. My father is of Russian-Hungarian Jewish descent and my mother of Dutch Catholic heritage. She converted to Judaism before their marriage, however, so I was born Jewish. But still, I've met a few Rabbis who insist I'm not.
79 posted on
10/03/2002 10:40:28 PM PDT by
Mr. Mojo
To: Richard Poe
According to what I learned while studying Hebrew in a Temple in South Florida. A Jew is defined by his mother being a Jew not the father.
83 posted on
10/04/2002 9:17:14 AM PDT by
hosepipe
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