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I took this photo near Sonora, Texas, on I-10, where the interstate cut through this mountain. The flag, flying so high above us, was just overwhelmingly beautiful!


1 posted on 09/27/2002 7:13:22 AM PDT by Billie
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To: Billie
In memory of my fellow Vietnam helicopter pilots who were killed in that war the following were lost on todays date. God bless them all.

1LT Porrazzo -- B/1/9 CAV 1 CAV
1LT Husrst -- A/9 AVN 9 INF
CW2 Morris -- 1 CAV
MAJ Pittard -- 38 ARRS DET 13
CW2 Smith -- A/9 AVN 9 INF
WO1 Bradley -- 237 MED DET
CW2 Hill -- 237 MED DET
CPT Jacobs -- 3 BDE 101 ABN
CPT Langman -- 3 BDE 101 ABN
WO1 Karnehm -- 187 AHC
CPT Kintaro -- 187 AHC
CPT Rogers -- C/3/17 CAV
1LT Rueppel -- 1 AVN BDE

IN THE SHADOW OF THE BLADE

SCOUTS OUT!

2 posted on 09/27/2002 7:15:05 AM PDT by ladtx
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To: Billie
Good morning Billie.
It's always heart-warming to see the flag out in the middle of nowhere. There are patriots everywhere.
3 posted on 09/27/2002 7:17:09 AM PDT by ladtx
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To: ST.LOUIE1; Mama_Bear; daisyscarlett; dutchess; dansangel; Aquamarine; Diver Dave; JustAmy; ...
Good Morning, dear FRiends. Our Finest FReeper this morning will be late arriving on the thread, but please come by and say hello to him.


4 posted on 09/27/2002 7:17:34 AM PDT by Billie
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To: Billie; Flyer
Mornin' Billie, Flyer.

Congratulations, Flyer. Welcome to FR's Finest...Hall of Fame. It's been a real pleasure to meet and chat with you here on FReeRepublic. Thanks for all your contributions to FR's Finest. From your discriptions, Flyer sounds and looks like a GREAT FRiend.

Now, kindly step forward to center stage and take a bow.

14 posted on 09/27/2002 7:30:51 AM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: Billie; Flyer
A bathing beauty for the original Flyer:

21 posted on 09/27/2002 7:35:47 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Billie
Good Morning Billie. Great picture. You sure do good work.
22 posted on 09/27/2002 7:35:58 AM PDT by Temple Owl
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To: Flyer
Good morning! I'm on my way out the door but wanted to congratulate you on your day in the Spotlight at The Finest's.


35 posted on 09/27/2002 7:58:56 AM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: Billie; Flyer
Absolutely one of FRs finest !

Flyer, we appreciate ALL you do for us here in Houston.

Well deserved BUMP to a good man and a good FRiend!.....Thank you!


39 posted on 09/27/2002 8:38:13 AM PDT by bobbyd
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To: Billie; Flyer; Pippin; dansangel; Aquamarine; LadyX; ST.LOUIE1
FReegards to Flyer


I'm happy to meet you Flyer, thanks for the pleasant introduction - now I'm off to browse in your photo gallery!
50 posted on 09/27/2002 8:49:27 AM PDT by Libertina
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To: Billie; daisyscarlett; Mama_Bear; Pippin; Flyer; All
Mornin', everybody !


Have a cup while you FReep !

65 posted on 09/27/2002 9:49:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Billie; Flyer; kayak; ohioWfan
Billie. My only problem with the name thing...
First I learn Kayak DOES NOT KAYAK...then I learn Flyer doesn't fly....next am I going to learn that OWFan really isn't a fan of W??????

P.S. Glad to be back!!!! Missed you all!
74 posted on 09/27/2002 10:12:16 AM PDT by dutchess
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To: Billie

Good morning, Billie! I'm back after a quick trip to Clear Lake, Texas City and Galveston. You did an outstanding job of making this little puppy look like one of the big dogs. Thanks!

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God Bless America, land of the free, home of the brave. . .

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Dottie Sue - Missouri City, Texas

Dalmatian - Photo by Flyer

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Flyer

77 posted on 09/27/2002 10:18:15 AM PDT by Flyer
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To: Billie

"All good loadmasters hail from Tennessee," so said former USAF C-130 pilot Bill Gunkle in a late-night telephone conversation. Bill had called from his home in the Southwest to talk to me about a book I was working on about the C-130 troop carrier squadrons in Vietnam. Being a Tennessean myself, I did not dispute Bill's assertion - he was talking about TSgt Charlie Shaub, a loadmaster who is one of the true heroes of the C-130 world. Charlie had been Gunkle's crew loadmaster during an assignment with the 314th Tactical Airlift Wing at CCK Air Base, Taiwan in 1969-70. Charlie Shaub was a Tennessean. He was born and raised near the town of Portland, a town on the Tennessee-Kentucky border north of Nashville. Though his given name was Charlie Shaub, the young boy named himself "Jack Wright" when he was little. His father had deserted the family when he was a baby so Charlie took his mother's maiden name. Though his military friends knew him as Charlie Shaub, his family knows him as Jack Wright.

Perhaps due to his lack of a relationship with his father - he never met the man until he was an adult himself - Charlie developed into somewhat of a loner. His favorite activity was reading. He read a lot of books on a variety of subjects but history and the military were his favorite topics. When he grew up, Charlie went into the military, where he found a new home. He trained as a flight traffic specialist, the military version of a flight attendant, in the Military Air Transport Service and flew missions out of Charleston, South Carolina transporting Department of Defense personnel all over the world. In the early 1960s MATS began phasing out it's fleet of C-121 Constellations, the airplanes with which Charlie's squadron at Charleston was equipped, and replacing them with new C-130E turboprop tactical transports. Charlie, along with most of the other male flight attendants, was offered the opportunity to cross-train into the aircraft loadmaster field. He was sent to school at Sheppard AFB, Texas and returned to Charleston to check out as a C-130 loadmaster.He married a woman named Nancy, who was, according to his friends, a "favorite" niece of South Carolina Congressman L. Mendel Rivers, the powerful Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. But Charlie's marriage to Nancy lasted only two years. His wife became ill and died, leaving Charlie alone again.

After Nancy's death, Charlie was terribly distraught. He left the Air Force for awhile and took a job with Delta Airlines at the airport in Charleston. But he missed the military life and soon, perhaps with the help of his wife's uncle, Charlie was back in the Air Force. Charlie liked the city of Charleston, but shortly after he returned to the service MATS, which had become the Military Airlift Command, began converting the C-130 and C-124 squadrons at Charleston to the new jet C-141. Several of the C-130 crewmembers, including Charlie, transferred to McGuire AFb, New Jersey. When he got there, Charlie decided he did not like McGuire. He volunteered for an overseas assignment to get away from the base. By this time the Vietnam War was in full swing and qualified loadmasters, especially those in the lower grades, were in demand for duty in airlift squadrons in Vietnam and in the nearby islands of Okinawa, the Philippines, Japan and Taiwan where several squadrons of C-130s were based. Charlie soon got the overseas orders he had volunteered for. He was sent to Ching Chuan Kang Air Base, on the island of Taiwan. The Taiwanese Air Base was home to the 314th Tactical Airlift Wing, a former Tactical Air Command C-130 unit that had been transferred from Sewart AFB, Tennessee to the Far East in the mid-1960s. Charlie soon adapted to his new environment as the former "MATS Weanie" took his place on a combat airlift crew. He enjoyed his time at CCK, and when he went back to Charleston at the end of his tour, he found himself homesick for his overseas base. He volunteered to go back to CCK and returned to the Far East.

By the spring of 1972 the Vietnam War was at a low ebb. The 1968 Communist Tet Offensive had given way to a gradual winding down by mid-1969, and after the invasion of Cambodia in May 1970, there was little fighting in South Vietnam. Yet, while the United States was in the process of withdrawing it's forces from a war that was becoming increasingly unpopular with its citizens, the North Vietnamese were rebuilding their forces in preparation for another massive offensive in hopes of overrunning the southern half of the divided country. In April 1972, heavily armed North Vietnamese divisions crossed into the South at several points, including from out of Cambodia as Communist troops began moving south along Highway 13 toward the capitol city of Saigon. NVA troops captured several airfields in Binh Long Province, including the airfields at An Loc and Quan Loi. Communist troops equipped with large-caliber automatic antiaircraft weapons surrounded the town of An Loc, trapping a large South Vietnamese military force inside the city. The only means of delivering supplies was by air, but the large concentrations of antiaircraft guns soon made this a hazardous proposition. At first the Allied commanders attempted to resupply the city by helicopter, but this proved too hazardous. Attempts by South Vietnamese Air Force C-123s also failed, leading the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam to order the United States Air Force to assume the role of resupplying the South Vietnamese troops at An Loc.

On the morning of April 15 Charlie Shaub took off in a C-130E flown by a crew from the 776th Tactical Airlift Squadron for an airdrop mission over An Loc. "Spare 617" was the number three airplane in a three-ship drop formation. Commanded by Captain Bill Caldwell, the other crewmembers were Lt. John Hering, copilot, Lt. Richard Lentz, navigator, TSgt Jon Sanders, engineer and SSgt Charlie Shaub and Sgt Dave McAleece, loadmasters. They left Tan Son Nhut airfield right at daybreak, and arrived in the vicinity of An Loc after a relatively short flight. The first crew made their drop, though they encountered heavy ground fire. The second airplane aborted when their ramp would not open, and Caldwell's crew became the second C-130 crew to attempt a drop at An Loc. The city was enshrouded by early morning haze, which made seeing the soccer field which was serving as a drop zone very difficult. The crew was unable to line up properly for the drop, so Captain Caldwell elected to make a second attempt to find the drop zone. They were about thirty seconds from the drop zone when heavy enemy fire struck the low-flying Hercules. Hits in the cargo compartment caused the load of Class A explosives - artillery ammunition - to smolder. Machine-gun fire struck the cockpit, wounding the copilot and navigator and killing Jon Sanders, who was a close personal friend of Charlie's from their days at Charleston. Shrapnel in the cargo compartment struck Charlie and McAleece. A bleed air line running along the overhead of the cargo compartment ruptured when it was hit, by ground fire; hot engine bleed air spilled into the cargo compartment, increasing the danger of fire and turning the inside of the airplane into an oven.

Seeing the danger to the airplane and crew, Charlie instinctively released the restraining strap holding the load and set the cargo free. Two of the pallets exploded as they left the airplane. The heat from the bleed air made the metal skin of the fire extinguishers too hot to touch, but Charlie used one to fight a fire that broke out in the wheel well area. In spite of his injuries, Shaub managed to put out the fire and save the airplane. But, they were not out of the woods yet. Ground fire had knocked out both left-hand engines, and there was no hydraulic pressure to lower the landing gear. With his own hands too badly burned to turn the crank, Shaub supervised as McAleece cranked down the gear. They finally extended just as the airplane reached the traffic pattern at Tan Son Nhut. Power was lost on a third engine just before touch-down, but Captain Caldwell managed to get the crippled airplane on the ground.

Charlie was deeply saddened by the loss of his friend, Jon Sanders. They had served together back at Charleston and were long-time friends. He had been wounded himself, and his hands were badly burned. In recognition of his actions, Charlie was nominated for the Medal of Honor, the highest decoration that can be bestowed by the United States military. According to some who knew him, Charlie was proud to have been nominated for the prestigious medal, and was disappointed when the award was disapproved. Still, he received the Air Force Cross, the second highest medal presented to US Air Force personnel for heroism. He was also awarded the Robert H. Pitzenbarger Heroism Award by the Air Force Sergeants Association. (The award was named for a young Air Force pararescueman who had given his life in Vietnam earlier in the war, and who had also been awarded the Air Force Cross, though posthumously.) Shortly after the mission, Charlie was promoted to the enlisted grade of Technical Sergeant.

In 1976 Charlie Shaub retired from the Air Force, and returned to his Tennessee home at Portland. His family was glad to see him home, but they knew little of what he had done that day in South Vietnam. It was not until his death twenty years later when one of Charlie's military buddies told them at the funeral that they understood that "Jack" was a hero. After his retirement from the Air Force, Charlie lived alone. His health deteriorated. Then he fell and broke a hip; after the injury Charlie became essentially an invalid. He moved into a VFW-sponsored retirement home in Gallatin, Tennessee, where he could be in the company of other former military personnel and where someone could keep an eye on him. One day in 1996 he was found dead in his room.

Charlie Shaub was a hero of the Vietnam War, and of the C-130 world. His actions during the mission to An Loc set him apart from the rest of us who served a C-130 crewmembers in that long and terrible war. He deserves to be remembered.

I was honored to have known Charlie. Article courtsey Sams C-130 Page

Mustard

187 posted on 09/27/2002 12:20:48 PM PDT by Mustard
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To: Billie; Flyer; Pippin; whoever; lodwick; JohnHuang2; daisyscarlett; Aquamarine; COB1; All

Just running through to Congratulate Flyer on his special Honor. Have a wonderful weekend everyone :-)

~~~deadhead~~~

189 posted on 09/27/2002 12:22:09 PM PDT by deadhead
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To: Billie

Saluting: Flyer

208 posted on 09/27/2002 1:20:23 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Billie; Flyer
Please to meet you Flyer!

Sorry if I'm late saying so -- we have our hands full today in DC with these protestors! But congrats and it's well-earned.
222 posted on 09/27/2002 2:50:50 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Billie
Way-late BTTT for our hometown guy!
317 posted on 09/30/2002 9:02:06 AM PDT by Xenalyte
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