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In other words, neither of you know what you are talking about

I can tell that you are so jaded by the system that supressing kid's or parents rights because "some" are disruptive probably sounds good to you and probably doesn't even feel like an opression of those who are not part of the "some". Sort of like ignoring the 2nd Amendment for "all" citizens because "some" use guns for evil.

You may be educating kids to be able to do math or biology in a nice quiet orderly room but its pure worthless crap if they come out the other end as good little mindless drone workers without a concept of individual freedom and trained to conform to government wishes and obey quietly.

Good luck to you and your students.

You may be educating kids to be able to do math or biology in a nice quiet orderly room but its pure worthless crap if they come out the other end as good little mindless drone workers without a concept of individual freedom and trained to conform to government wishes and obey quietly.

Show me where this is happening. Of course, since you have no idea what goes on in a modern school, you can't. A good education, regardless of where it is obtained, frees the mind. Even if you have to wear a uniform and not curse at the teachers while obtaining it...

You may be educating kids to be able to do math or biology in a nice quiet orderly room but its pure worthless crap if they come out the other end as good little mindless drone workers without a concept of individual freedom and trained to conform to government wishes and obey quietly.

Right On! Power to the People! Bring it all Down, Man! Education is Torture!

What mindless drivel....

ps-- Lest you think I'm raising societal drones-- my 19 year old son is a Middle Linebacker playing college football. My 16 year old is the starting Quarterback on his high school team. Both shave their heads before games and leave patches of hair spelling out their school's initials. I think it looks stupid, but hey, it's what they think looks cool.

Now should their schools or their coaches tell them to knock off the hair stuff or they cannot continue to play or be in class should I A) tell them they're victims and they should fight the evil authoritarian school system. B) tell them to grow up, toe the line, and behave the correct way. C) tell them that they're free to make any choice they want regarding their hair, but that their choices have consequences, some intended and some unintended, and that they're responsible for those choices and those consequences...?

What do you think I've told my kids since they were in diapers? I'll match them up against most adults for intellectual and emotional maturity as well as leadership ability.