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Don't Start the Second Gulf War
National Review Online ^ | 8-12-02 | Doug Bandow

Posted on 09/24/2002 11:51:53 AM PDT by Protagoras

Don’t Start the Second Gulf War
The case against war with Iraq.

By Doug Bandow
August 12, 2002, 9:00 a.m.

President George W. Bush says that he hasn't made up his mind about "any of our policies in regard to Iraq," but he obviously has. To not attack after spending months talking about the need for regime change is inconceivable. Unfortunately, war is not likely to be the simple and certain procedure that he and many others seem to think.

Lots of arguments have been offered on behalf of striking Baghdad that are not reasons at all. For instance, that Saddam Hussein is an evil man who has brutalized his own people.

Certainly true. But the world is full of brutal regimes that have murdered their own people. Indeed, Washington ally Turkey's treatment of its Kurds is scarcely more gentle than Iraq's Kurdish policies.

Moreover, the U.S. warmly supports the royal kleptocracy next door in Saudi Arabia, fully as totalitarian, if not quite as violent, as Saddam's government. Any non-Muslim and most women would probably prefer living in Iraq.

Also cited is Baghdad's conquest of Kuwait a dozen years ago. It is a bit late to drag that out as a justification for invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam. He is far weaker today and has remained firmly contained.

Richard Butler, former head of the U.N. Commission on Iraq, complained to the Senate Foreign Relations that Iraq had violated international law by tossing out arms inspectors. In fact, there are often as many reasons to flout as to obey U.N. rules. Washington shouldn't go to war in some abstract pursuit of "international law."

Slightly more plausible, at least, is the argument that creating a democratic system in Iraq would provide a useful model for the rest of the Mideast. But that presupposes democracy can be easily planted, and that it can survive once the U.S. departs.

Iraq suffers from significant internal stresses. Convenient professions of unity in pursuit of democracy from an opposition once dismissed by Mideast special envoy and retired Gen. Anthony Zinni as "silk-suited, Rolex-wearing guys in London" offer little comfort and are likely to last no longer than have similar promises in Afghanistan.

Also problematic are Kurdish demands for autonomy and Shiite Muslim resistance to the central government. One defense official told the Washington Post: "I think it is almost a certainty that we'd wind up doing a campaign against the Kurds and Shiites." Wouldn't that be pretty? <

There are external threats as well. Particularly worrisome would be covert and possibly overt action by Iran, with which Baghdad fought a decade-long war and which might see intervention against a weakened Iraq as an antidote to serious political unrest at home.

Indeed, the U.S. backed Baghdad in its conflict with Iran and decided not to depose Saddam in 1991, in part out of fear of Iranian aggression throughout the Gulf should Iraq no longer provide a blocking role. Keeping the Iraqi Humpty Dumpty together after a war might not be easy.

Moreover, while Americans might see America's war on Iraq as a war for democracy, most Arabs would likely see it as a war for Washington. If the U.S. deposes Saddam, but leaves in place friendly but despotic regimes elsewhere — such as Egypt, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia — few Arabs would take America's democracy rhetoric seriously. Nor should they. Yet to go to war against everyone, including presumably Iran, Syria, and maybe others, would have incalculable consequences.

Saddam's complicity in September 11 would present a good argument for devastating retaliation for an act of war, but there's no evidence that he was involved. All that exists is a disputed meeting, which might not have occurred, in the Czech Republic between hijacker Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi official.

Certainly Saddam shed no tears over the thousands who died on that tragic day, but he has never been known to promote groups which he does not control. In contrast to Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein is no Muslim fanatic looking forward to his heavenly rewards; moreover, he heads a government and nation against which retaliation is simple.

Probably the best, at least the most fearsome, argument for overthrowing Saddam is the prospect of Baghdad developing weapons of mass destruction. Yet if nonproliferation should be enforced by war, Washington will be very busy in the coming years.

The problem is not just countries like Iran and North Korea, which seem to have or have had serious interest in developing atomic weapons. It is China, which could use them in any conflict with the U.S. over, say, Taiwan. And India, Pakistan, and Russia, which face unpredictable nationalist and theological currents, enjoy governments of varying instability, and offer uncertain security over technical know-how as well as weapons.

Potentially most dangerous is Pakistan's arsenal. The government of Pervez Musharraf is none too steady; Islamabad long supported the Taliban and its military and intelligence forces almost certainly contain al Qaeda sympathizers. It is easy to imagine nuclear technology falling into terrorist hands.

An Iraqi nuclear capability seems less frightening in comparison. Saddam would not use them against America, since to do so would guarantee his incineration. Israel possesses a similarly overbearing deterrent.

Would Baghdad turn atomic weapons over to al Qaeda or similarly motivated terrorists? Not likely.

First, it would be extraordinary for Saddam to give up a technology purchased at such a high price. Second, Baghdad would be the immediate suspect and likely target of retaliation should any terrorist deploy nuclear weapons, and Saddam knows this.

Third, Saddam would be risking his own life. Al Qaeda holds secular Arab dictators in contempt and would not be above attempting to destroy them as well as America.

Of course, the world would be a better place without Saddam's dictatorship. But there are a lot of regimes that should, and eventually will, end up in history's dustbin. That's not a good reason to initiate war against a state which poses no direct, ongoing threat.

Especially since war often creates unpredictable consequences. Without domestic opposition military forces to do America's dirty work, Washington will have to bear most of the burden. The task will be more difficult and expensive without European support and Saudi staging grounds.

If Iraq's forces don't quickly crumble, the U.S. might find itself involved in urban conflict that will be costly in human and political terms. If Baghdad possesses any weapons of mass destruction, Saddam will have an incentive to use them — against America, Israel, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia — since Washington would be dedicated to his overthrow.

Further, the U.S. would be sloshing gasoline over a combustible political situation in friendly but undemocratic Arab regimes stretching from North Africa to Southeast Asia. Israelis and Palestinians are at war, America continues to fight Taliban and al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan as the pro-western government teeters on chaos, fundamentalist Muslims rule western Pakistan, and Muslim extremists are active a dozen other countries. Yet the administration wants to invade Iraq. Riots in Egypt, a fundamentalist rising in Pakistan, a spurt of sectarian violence in Indonesia, and who knows what else could pose a high price for any success in Iraq.

War is a serious business. Making war on a country which does not threaten the U.S. is particularly serious. Even if the optimists who think a campaign against Iraq would be easy are right, and we can only hope they are, war should be a last resort. As House Majority Leader Richard Armey warned, an unprovoked attack "would not be consistent with what we have been as a nation or what we should be as a nation."

There's certainly no hurry to go to war. Nothing is different today from September 10, 2001, or any time since Iraq was ousted from Kuwait. Observes Jim Cornette, formerly an expert in biological warfare with the Air Force: "We've bottled [Saddam] up for 11 years, so we're doing okay."

There are times when Washington has no choice but to fight. Iraq is not such a place and now is not such a time.

— Doug Bandow is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and a former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; cato; onemontholdarticle; saddam; war
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To: VaBthang4
I will no longer debate them.....instead mockery is my tool of choice.

You childish posts have shown much about your intellectual prowess on this thread. You will now be afforded the priviledge of being ignored since you have stated your intention to disrupt but not add anything to this thread, or this site.

221 posted on 09/24/2002 2:55:36 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: anniegetyourgun
At the store buying new underwear??
222 posted on 09/24/2002 2:58:45 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: VRWC_minion
Deciding to kill the people of a country are all based on secret information. Its no different to those doing the bombing or those getting bombed. However, you have no inherent right to know the details. Your government is not obligated to tell you this. They have the right to make war on your behalf and have no obligation to tell you why.

This is among the most frightening things I have ever seen on this site. Thank you for providing it for the concideration of those reading this thread.

223 posted on 09/24/2002 2:58:48 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Mo1
5 pair to be specific.....
224 posted on 09/24/2002 3:00:08 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: iconoclast
Do you folks ever read beyond the headlines?

Seems not.

225 posted on 09/24/2002 3:00:21 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: VaBthang4
Beautiful job, VaBthang45!

That's the 5 best danged 5 post I've seen in 5 ages!

226 posted on 09/24/2002 3:00:46 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: ThomasJefferson
That was no personal attack. If I was going to make a personal attack, you'd know it. That was as much an attack as the article you posted is an attack on GW and Americans.

You have nothing to offer. Hide behind an asinine article claiming to have proof, or facts, when the info you believe is based on lies. Facts and proof are offered here on this thread, and you ignore it, to your own ignorance (that was a compliment)

Let me put it this way; the article is a pile of chit and anyone who believes it...well...you know....

227 posted on 09/24/2002 3:03:47 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: The Other Harry
I don't know, I didn't pst the article. But yes, I agree; the original post is just that.
228 posted on 09/24/2002 3:04:36 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Huck
I am simply saying his arguments are the same as Phil Donahue's.

Concidering your self admitted lack of knowledge about the author, I would ask you to reconcider this comment and I would be happy to recommend some of his books for your perusal. I think you might feel a little sheepish after you found out how many of his opinons are also held by you.

It should be pointed out however, that the author is not the subject. Thoughtful concideration of the points he has made and critique of them should be the goal of this thread. I know you can rise above discussing the author instead of the ideas, I have seen you do it on occasion.

229 posted on 09/24/2002 3:05:30 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: iconoclast
All the reports I can find, either inside FR or out, indicate heavy al Qaeda presence in NORTHERN Iraq

Well, I would ask for your source, but doubt you have one, and would provide sources you ignore, but doubt you would read them.

Next time, why don't you guys post "Libertarian Stoner Party" in the title, and then we will know what to expect for information. Thanks.

230 posted on 09/24/2002 3:06:37 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: ThomasJefferson
Blair's Dossier: Saddam Linked to Bin Laden

Interrogations link Al Qaeda to Iraq

Who did it? Foreign Report presents an alternative view

The Iraq Connection

231 posted on 09/24/2002 3:07:30 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Do you folks ever read beyond the headlines?

You are a knee-jerk. IQ ~80.

You may consider that to be a flame if you'd like.

232 posted on 09/24/2002 3:07:43 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: Nonstatist
Your points are well taken. I don't think that the author made a case for his sanity however. Thanks for your thoughtful comments.
233 posted on 09/24/2002 3:08:04 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Concidering = Considering. You go to school in Chicago, bub?
234 posted on 09/24/2002 3:08:58 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: backhoe
Thank you for the links.
235 posted on 09/24/2002 3:09:40 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
The article ranks of typical democrat spin and shows how some can backslide from truth into the kingdom of lies .
It's a shame that such a person is so prolific but is deceived into believing that there are no consequences when mad men have nuclear weapons to be used on all the enemies of his islamic persusion.
I can't understand such blindness.
236 posted on 09/24/2002 3:09:51 PM PDT by wgeorge2001
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To: VaBthang4
Can I conclude that you are therefore only here to disrupt the conversation?
237 posted on 09/24/2002 3:11:18 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: VaBthang4
ROTFLMAO
238 posted on 09/24/2002 3:11:19 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: rintense
But isn't that what you want as well? A smoking gun?

I have never made any such comment, please confine your comments to the article and not to speculating about what I might want. It would be irrelevant in any case, this thread is not about my opinions.

239 posted on 09/24/2002 3:14:36 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Thanks, TJ, for a thoughtful and, hopefully, thought-PROVOKING article. Too bad we have so many minds here that are like steel traps... rusted shut. Some very SERIOUS thought needs to go into this before we launch a PRE-EMPTIVE war and forever change the nature of this country to something none of us will either recognize or like.
240 posted on 09/24/2002 3:15:44 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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