Don't Start the Second Gulf War

National Review Online ^ | 8-12-02 | Doug Bandow

[jjm2111]

I almost puked on my computer w/ that pic.

[Nick Danger]

Guy is in the closing stages of buying a new car. The salesman comes in and says, "I talked to the manager. I told him I really like you folks and I want to get you into that car today. So he gave me a really sweet deal. Here ya go... $2200 down and $425 a month."

"Well, I don't know. That's a lot of car for us, and I'm not sure I like the color. Maybe if you lopped another $1,000 off the price, but...."

Salesman says, "I don't think we can do that. We're not making any money on this car. I got you all I could on your trade."

"I'm going to have to go think it over. I think I'll just go home for tonight, and maybe come back tomorrow."

Salesman says to wait right here. He's going to go talk to the manager one more time.

Salesman comes back, he got another $500 off the car.

"Well, you know, I really need it to be a thousand off. My old car still has a lot of good miles left in it. And the kids need new shoes. I think I'll just head home."

Excuse me.

"Who the Hell are you?"

I'm Doug Bandow of the Cato Institute, and a former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan. Are you aware that this salesman is offering you a wonderful deal here? That is about as low a price on that car as I've ever seen. You really ought take that deal right now.

"Will you shut the Hell up, I almost had the guy down the whole thousand!"

[rintense]

All true, MM. We've seen the writing on the wall. Some would rather see it written in blood first.

[iconoclast]

girls can go to school, women can go to work, men can shave their faces

And the "President" can't stick his head out of the door.

Take off your rose-colored glasses ... it's a slightly better smelling cesspool.

[rmvh]

Re your # 31

...my trust in governments in light of the past, is less certain than yours. Once we "trust" them about secret information which cannot be diviluged for reasons unexplained, it would be difficult to ask questions in the future.

It seems critical and self evident that government have higly secret information which is not made available for public consumption.....particularly during times of great threat and war.

I wouldn;t want our militray strategy to be run via town hall....or after Peter Jennings gets the rabble aroused.....or by AlGore as he is attempting to now do.

I think the major point is that there has to be great trust in our leaders in time of immense threat.....such as the present.....and I don't think any sane person can assume that the frequently demonstrated Islamic desire and effectiveness in killing us without mercy.... as has been ongoing for the past fifteen years....is not not a clear indication of the immense danger to all of us here in America.

[anniegetyourgun]

And where do you think all three of those men would be if presented with the same evidence our president has now?

[iconoclast]

What form of gov't do you suggest ?

I'll take the one we have, though it was a lot better when it was a constitutional republic. Even then, I wouldn't have trusted politicians.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Right, a pre-emptive strike on a country that borders China."

Learn to read, bubbah. Note that I did NOT say that North Korea met the necessary criteria, as despite having WOMD, Kim Il Jong is NOT sufficiently insane as to use them. Actually, now that I think on it, the "order of nutballness" among national leaders is probably Saddam Hussein (has the finances, the means and the nutballness), Moammar Qaddaffi (has the finances, but AFAIK, is NOT pursuing acquisition of WOMD, but IS second in nutballness), and THEN Kim Il Jong.

Right now, Saddam Hussein is unique among the globes national leaders.

[rintense]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[RedBloodedAmerican]

[RedBloodedAmerican]

LOL!!!!

[agrace]

I give up, you win. Have a good afternoon.

[Libloather]

But the world is full of brutal regimes that have murdered their own people.

During the *Crinton administration, it was called "ethnic cleansing."

(Heard a Liberteen whining on Hannity today. Is Harry Browne now giving out instructions on how to turn into weenies?)

[Protagoras]

Personal attacks are no substitute for discussion, please return to the threads where you will feel more at home.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

[gop4me]

You said: "Actually classic Bush would be to let his opposistion get as bold as they can before delivering them the knock out punch. The first time he did this was over the flack about the damage done to the WH. The Rats questioned that there was any proof. Not until the Rats had seen blood and were on the attack did Bush release the proof. The Rats wrongly assumed that of Bush didn't put it forward at the outset that he didn't have it."

If this is an example of waiting to bring out the proof then we are really screwed. The GAO official report said there wasn't any damage other than that "consistant with the changing of the guard." Our side was made to look like fools on that one. I hope we fare better on this. Trust a politician hoping to get a political advantage? Never! Not their side, not ours either. If we should ever give our complete trust to any politician, then bend over and kiss your a** goodbye.

[iconoclast]

Iraq's training of al Qaeda leadership in Iraq. There are plenty of articles on this just on FR.

Iraq's CURRENT harboring of al Qaeda refugees from Afghanistan. The President of the US said this. That's good enough for me.

All the reports I can find, either inside FR or out, indicate heavy al Qaeda presence in NORTHERN Iraq.

That's the KURDISH portion of Iraq, folks, not the Saddam part. They and Saddam are mortal enemies!

If things don't work out according to GWB's scenario, they might even wind up overruning our new puppet president.

Do you folks ever read beyond the headlines?

[The Other Harry]

The reasons for posting crap are what?

[The Other Harry]

The reasons for posting crap are what?

[The Other Harry]

The reasons for posting crap are what?