To: wallcrawlr
Jesse want talk show
2 posted on
09/24/2002 6:22:05 AM PDT by
joesnuffy
To: wallcrawlr
Actually,a well written article by P.Lopez,pretty rare to read something concerning Jesse where the journalist doesn't run of into an editorial...
I like his to the point personality,but sitting down to talk with Castro about Kennedy?? Jesse,if you get the chance to meet him,fore arm shiver,whip into the turn buckle followed by a clothes line,scoop him up and pile drive him,then finish him off with the ring bell,then we can talk about this trip being FOR Minnesooota!
He is right though,nobody said a thing when he went to China......
To: wallcrawlr
"I see opportunity for Minnesota," he said.Lefsa and Lutefisk for Cohibas?
To: wallcrawlr
Ventura: Cuba policy is 'all about' Florida votes True even if the source is a bonehead.
To: wallcrawlr
Ventura said he heard no complaints from the Bush administration when he led a trade mission to China this year. Criticism of the Cuba trip, he said, "is all about electoral votes in Florida" And the big farm subsidy bill was about electoral votes in Minnesota and immigration policy is about electoral votes in California and New York. What's his point --- the people of Florida shouldn't have an opinion?
38 posted on
09/26/2002 11:32:10 AM PDT by
Ditto
To: wallcrawlr
Ventura shares stage with Castro at opening of ag show
BY JIM RAGSDALE
Pioneer Press
HAVANA
Gov. Jesse Ventura stood next to Cuban President Fidel Castro and officially opened a historic agriculture trade fair today.
The Minnesota governor and the man who has led Cuba since Ventura was in grade school shook hands but did not speak on the podium of the convention center, where hundreds of U.S. food producers came to get in on what they hope is an emerging market for their products.
"I never dreamed that in my lifetime I would be standing here in the great country of Cuba," Ventura told the crowd of Americans and Cubans attending the gathering. "I never dreamed I would see our two flags flying side by side.
"But it proves to me, just as it did when I ran for governor of Minnesota, than anything can happen," Ventura said. The Americans and the Cubans, after the translator finished, had a good laugh.
The 76-year-old Castro, wearing a dark-blue, double-breasted suit with a gold tie, did not speak at the opening ceremonies, and said nothing directly to Ventura. But after the speeches, Castro roamed through the halls and fixed upon the Kaehler family of St. Charles, Minn., who were exhibiting livestock in a corner of the building.
Castro became animated as he discussed animal care, feeding and production totals with Ralph Kaehler, owner of the livestock operation near Rochester, and his two sons, 11-year-old Seth and 13-year-old Cliff. A crush of international reporters followed Castro as he questioned Kaehler and his sons, patted the boys on the head and encouraged them to study Spanish and return to Cuba.
"Once a cattleman, always a cattleman," Ralph Kaehler said as he led Castro into a pen to view his beef cattle. The Kaehlers said Castro, speaking through an interpreter, has a background with farm animals and was keenly interested in milk production, how much the Minnesota animals are fed and other details of Kaehlers operation.
Ventura and Pedro Alvarez, chairman of Alimport, the Cuban import agency, cut a ribbon to officially begin the U.S. Food and Agribusiness Exhibition in Havana, believed to be the first such trade show since Castro came to power in the Cuban revolution of 1959. Alvarez said U.S. food imports to Cuba could rise to 22 percent of total Cuban food imports this year. He said the number could grow as high as 60 percent in the future.
"I look forward to this being just the first step in trade relations and a better relationship between our two countries," Ventura said in his opening remarks.
"We are for free trade and normal travel between Cuba and the United States," Alvarez said in his remarks.
To: wallcrawlr
Let's see. Having an embargo because Florida voters want it is hypocrisy. But opening markets for Archer Daniels Midland is principle. Politicians shouldn't do what voters want, they should do what big campaign contributors want. A Reform Party governor stands on principle. I'm glad Jesse cleared that up.
To: wallcrawlr; Luis Gonzalez; Ragtime Cowgirl; ALOHA RONNIE
Jesse, stay down there.
You want to lift the embargo to benefit the butcher tyrant.
You don't care about the thousands of political prisoners or the 100,000 Fidel has murdered.
You don't care about those who died to escape his hell--
You don't care about Elisabet and Elian--
You don't care that the Waco Monster and traitorrapist42 kidnapped a free boy in America to appease a foreign tyrant--
You defame patriotic Americans while sucking up to the execrable chancre Castro--
How are you going to have a man-to-man talk--
--without any men?
Yes, Jesse, you stay down there, that way you won't be such a hypocritical putzhead.
Oh, and Jesse, if you quit contemplating Uranus--
Ask your amigo about the ChiCom sigint installation and why it spoofed NYC air traffic control into thinking it was U.S. military--
--you freaking traitor.
To: wallcrawlr
This guy has hit quite a few home runs and this is another in the series.
64 posted on
09/26/2002 9:53:45 PM PDT by
breakem
To: wallcrawlr
Kind of interesting that very few comments on this thread addressed the points that Jesse made. Just more knee jerk reactions to anyone not Republican.
Now I will be most likely be attacked even though I have made no comment supporting him or his trip.
My comment is on the replies of the thread, not on Jesse or his points so I guess I can be accused of the same thing. And the beat goes on.
To: wallcrawlr
For what it's worth, here is my comment on the subject matter.
"He's a dictator," Ventura said in an interview with the Star Tribune on Monday. "That pretty much says it all."
I agree with statement even though it's easy to say.
"I see opportunity for Minnesota," he said.
Possible but dubious
"And I see a double standard and hypocrisy from Washington."
I agree with this 100%
Ventura said he heard no complaints from the Bush administration when he led a trade mission to China this year.
Good point.
Criticism of the Cuba trip, he said, "is all about electoral votes in Florida" -- a reference to that state's many Cuban-Americans, most of whom came to the United States to escape the Castro regime.
I agree with this assessment.
And what about the letter he received from Florida Gov. Jeb Bush urging him to reconsider his trip? "He needs the Cuban-American vote," Ventura said dismissively. "It's so clear what it's all about."
It's his opinion, he states it as such, and I tend to agree.
"Today we're in bed with Russia," Ventura said. "They're allies, to a certain extent. And yet we're still taking it out on the Cuban people."
Spot on IMO. It really says that embargos don't work and only hurt the common people. A realistic look at embargos throughout time bears this out.
Restrictions against trade with Cuba, he said, "are a failed policy. Castro's on his ninth [U.S.] president."
I agree. We have hurt everyone, including ourselves, but communism is still there and so is Castro. Doing the same thing that has failed in the past is one sign of insanity.
Ventura said he does give Castro credit for "never badmouthing our people. The government, yes, but I understand Cuban people have a great affection for Americans, so I'm going to see for myself."
Speaking well of this criminal is the wrong policy no matter what level it is said on. Jesse is wrong to do it. It is dumb, IMO
Ventura does not have a meeting scheduled with Castro, but said that if he does get a chance to talk with him , he wants to ask him his thoughts on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
This is just plain goofy.
In conclusion, I agree with most of what he said even if I don't support him or the structure of his trip.
To: wallcrawlr
I would have to believe that the Reform Party regrets the day this fool every darkened their doors.
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