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Well that's that then. We're gearing up for war, Al Gore looks particularly foolish, and the dossier tomorrow is going to confirm his idiocy.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 09/23/2002 3:29:33 PM PDT by MadIvan
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2 posted on 09/23/2002 3:30:01 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
For a Labour guy, Blair ain't all bad.
3 posted on 09/23/2002 3:30:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I'll be up at 5:30am, I hope they will show it live....?
5 posted on 09/23/2002 3:38:44 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: MadIvan
Hope he names France and Germany as co-conspirators.
6 posted on 09/23/2002 3:41:50 PM PDT by Shermy
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Blair tells his Cabinet that Saddam and his weapons must be stopped
8 posted on 09/23/2002 3:42:45 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: MadIvan
The dossier, which coincides with the emergency recall of Parliament, will be available on the Downing Street website from 0800 BST (0700 GMT).

I'll be asleep, but a big heads-up to the West-coasters! Here's your bedtime reading.
12 posted on 09/23/2002 3:55:20 PM PDT by July 4th
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14 posted on 09/23/2002 3:59:16 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: MadIvan
Well that's that then. We're gearing up for war..

Yep.

Al Gore looks particularly foolish, and the dossier tomorrow is going to confirm his idiocy.

I heard bits of his speech today at teh Commonwealth Club in San Fcancisco, Calif. Don't know if he is leading the attack by the dims or just speaking his own (also rather dim) mind. The story goes like this: We can't attack Iraq without first resolving the terror war with al-queda and OBL. Guess the goron didn't get the memo -- OBL is dead, dead, dead! And he couldn't be any more dead. And, the USA has more than enough resources to tackle Saddam and al-queda simultaneously. These leftwingers just drive me to spit with their constant wining and sniveling. They spend so much of their time trying to revise history to suit their twisted agenda that they completely lose sight of history. Even recent history -- the "quagmire" that Afghanistan was going to be, for example. Message to Gore: "You were BENCHED in 2000. On the bench you sit down and shut your pie-hole!"

16 posted on 09/23/2002 4:05:00 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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Cabinet backs Blair on Iraq

By Andrew Grice Political Editor
24 September 2002

Tony Blair quelled a cabinet revolt over Iraq yesterday by promising his ministers he would pursue fully a United Nations solution to the crisis before resorting to military action.

At the Cabinet's first meeting for two months, the Prime Minister stressed his priority was to secure the widest possible support for a new UN resolution, due to be published tomorrow, allowing an "intrusive" regime of weapons inspections in Iraq.

But Mr Blair told his ministers that tough action must be taken against Saddam Hussein. He said: "The truth is the policy of containment has not worked. He [President Saddam] has been able to make progress in his weapons of mass destruction programme and has to be stopped."

Several cabinet ministers stressed the need to give the Middle East peace process a higher profile in order to allay fears in the Arab world –- a point accepted by Mr Blair.

The Cabinet's debate on Iraq, due to last an hour, lasted for more than an hour and a half. Downing Street described it as "a serious and hard-headed discussion".

Official sources insisted that no minister spoke out against military action if the UN process failed to resolve the crisis. Clare Short, the Secretary of State for International Development, who publicly opposed a "second Gulf War" on Sunday, said: "We had a good discussion. We all agreed."

Although Mr Blair's allies are confident of avoiding resignations over Iraq, one minister said: "We have not reached crunch time – yet."

Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, said after the meeting that it would be "far better" for the Iraq crisis to be resolved peacefully, but he warned that military action might be needed.

Mr Blair outlined to his ministers the contents of the 50-page dossier on the threat from Iraq, to be published this morning, which he said showed that the "real and serious problem" of Iraq's weapons programme had grown worse in since 1998.

Mr Blair will stress his commitment to the "UN route" in an attempt to defuse a Labour rebellion in today's emergency debate on Iraq in the Commons. However, several Labour MPs warned that remarks by President George Bush showed he was determined to declare war. Mr Bush said: "If the UN will not deal with Saddam Hussein, the US and our friends will."

Writing in The Independent today, Tam Dalyell, the longest-serving MP, said: "It seems to me that Bush and Blair are doing everything they can to avoid peace. That is why I am in favour of regime change – in No 10 Downing Street."

Mr Blair will also face tough questions on Iraq at a meeting of Labour's national executive committee today. But Labour chiefs have blocked a vote on a motion opposing military action tabled by the left-winger Mark Seddon. Mr Seddon said: "It makes a charade of democracy. The Baathist party [in Iraq] operates on similar principles."

The Prime Minister was irritated by criticism at the weekend from Robin Cook, the Leader of the Commons, who renewed his call for a Commons vote on military action. Although Mr Blair's spokesman said ministers would not be "gagged", one cabinet minister said: "Robin is playing his usual games. People are getting fed up with it." Mr Blair is more tolerant of criticism by Ms Short, the other leading cabinet "dove", whom he met for a "clear the air" session before yesterday's meeting.

17 posted on 09/23/2002 4:17:35 PM PDT by blam
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God bless our British allies, America's true friends.
20 posted on 09/23/2002 4:31:17 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: MadIvan
Al Gore always looks particularly foolish, and even worse, he acts foolish. He is a foolish, idiotic man!! I hope he runs for president in 2004. I want to see him beat by a landslide!!
22 posted on 09/23/2002 4:45:41 PM PDT by marvlus
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Bump to check back in the morning.
23 posted on 09/23/2002 4:47:02 PM PDT by PogySailor
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God Bless you man. The invite is still on for a trip in New York, seeing the Autumn leaves, Lake Placid and Niagra Falls. We're up here on 5 acres of placid quietude. Cheers, and Warmest Regards, Mark and Karen Davis (yes... - Welsh spelling)
24 posted on 09/23/2002 4:48:37 PM PDT by BulletBrasDotNet
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So the report that Blair was waiting until after the German election to release his dossier turns out to be correct.
25 posted on 09/23/2002 4:53:12 PM PDT by aristeides
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Let's see: What was the vote in the League of Nations for going to war with Germany?
27 posted on 09/23/2002 5:04:08 PM PDT by Illbay
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thanks for the report, MI.

0700 GMT = 0200 Eastern in the States ?
(not that i'll wait up for it - lol)

btw, rumour has it you're coming to Moran's in december ?

29 posted on 09/23/2002 5:25:03 PM PDT by tomkat
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"...Al Gore looks particularly foolish, and the dossier tomorrow is going to confirm his idiocy. "

That Gore comes out with this on the eve of the dossier release is astonishingly stupid. But what do you expect from a guy who flunked out of grad school twice?

30 posted on 09/23/2002 5:26:15 PM PDT by cookcounty
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Thank you MadIvan.

We're gearing up for war, Al Gore looks particularly foolish, and the dossier tomorrow is going to confirm his idiocy.

My thoughts exactly today as I saw his performance in SF. Not only did he confirm his idiocy today, he insured his defeat if he tries to run for president.

Buh-bye al, you're toast yet again!

31 posted on 09/23/2002 5:27:37 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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I never thought I would have a good word to say about any Labor politician until I saw Tony Blair. He proves British courage is in British genes. They have an extra don't-tread-on-me chromosome.
32 posted on 09/23/2002 5:30:32 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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They've seen the dossier and yet still some Labour members are opposed...amazing...your left is as incorrigible as ours is over here.

If ever both of our nations are ruled by these leftists at a time of crisis such as this, the whole western world will fall, for certainly we will not be saved by backbone in Berlin or Paris.

37 posted on 09/23/2002 5:52:18 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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