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Car chase in Raleigh end in VA (Ends in Murder Suicide)

Posted on 09/23/2002 2:59:38 PM PDT by jern

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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Astrology is a joke.
201 posted on 09/23/2002 7:35:09 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
Astrology is a joke.

Not to broads - they're in every female mag.

They should dummy up and carry baseball stats and photos of girls in bikinis.

202 posted on 09/23/2002 7:38:46 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: cherry
I think it is time for all girls 12 yrs and older to be given survival schooling along with firearms training and at the end of this schooling, each should be presented with a nice, shiny 38 ......

Along with that, they could use some training on how NOT to pick JERKS nad PSYCHOS for boyfriends and husbands!

204 posted on 09/23/2002 9:08:20 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: NautiNurse
Those cross-hairs seem to dwell around South Hill in particular.

Other than that it is a peaceful road to drive as long as traffic isn't too heavy and slow.
205 posted on 09/23/2002 9:28:34 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: All
The write-up on WRAL
Gunman Who Led Authorities On Two-State Chase Shoots Ex-Wife, Self

Domestic Incident Led To Chase Throughout Triangle Area, Va.

Kamal Wallace, Staff Writer

POSTED: 5:54 p.m. EDT September 23, 2002
UPDATED: 10:29 p.m. EDT September 23, 2002

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Authorities say a man killed his ex-wife and shot himself after leading authorities for hours on a high-speed chase throughout the Triangle area and Virginia.

Authorities say the incident began around 5 p.m. Monday on Glenwood Avenue in Raleigh when they received a domestic call. They say Roberto Compos took his ex-wife, Lourdes Guzman, and her children, ages 4 and 7, hostage with a gun. However, authorities say the children were released early in the chase. Authorities say they were placed in their custody of their grandparents.

Compos then forced Guzman at gunpoint to drive around the Triangle area in a white pickup truck. The high-speed chase led authorities around the Beltline and later on I-40 West.

Both Compos and Guzman were talking to a forensic psychologist during the chase.

The vehicle later headed northbound on I-85 through Brunswick County, Va., where authorities decided to use stop sticks.

Authorities said when the truck pulled off to the side of the road, Compos shot Guzman and went into the woods where he later shot himself.

Authorities say the chase reached speeds of up to 90 miles per hour. At one point in the chase, both Compos and Guzman could be seen changing clothes in the vehicle.

Authorities say Compos fired shots at police and other civilians.

Raleigh Police Capt. D.S. Overman said the couple had an ongoing, longtime dispute.


206 posted on 09/24/2002 3:37:58 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: VRWC_minion
I'm reading this thread the next day, knowing the outcome from the very beginning. I'm sickened by the 'humor' also.
207 posted on 09/24/2002 4:58:49 AM PDT by mommybain
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To: Overtaxed
>>>Both Compos and Guzman were talking to a forensic psychologist during the chase.<<<

Thank God the children were released. May God have mercy on them both.

208 posted on 09/24/2002 5:12:16 AM PDT by fone
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To: fone
They were saying on the morning broadcast that her husband (Guzman) had followed them all the way to the end and was inconsolable. :((
209 posted on 09/24/2002 5:43:28 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Any particular reason given?
210 posted on 09/24/2002 5:47:34 AM PDT by fone
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To: fone
They didn't go into the specifics of the "domestic dispute" but just said it was a long term on-going thing.
211 posted on 09/24/2002 5:49:35 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Piltdown_Woman
My little sister had a husband whose hobby was leaving bruises. One night she picked up the baseball bat and took a stand... it bought her some time. She eventually got away from him. I'm a firm believer in fighting fire with fire, and with being the proof that violence causes more violence. (-:
212 posted on 09/24/2002 5:58:42 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: fone
This is what The News and Observer has:
Man, woman dead after two-state chase

Police Trail a Truck After a Man Kidnaps His Former Girlfriend and Forces Her to Drive From Raleigh Into Virginia

Law enforcement vehicles trail a Toyota Tacoma on Interstate 85 north of Henderson. The driver of the truck was held hostage by a former boyfriend, and both died of gunshot wounds three hours after the chase began.

By THOMASI MCDONALD AND OREN DORELL, Staff Writers

For nearly three hours Monday evening, a convoy of North Carolina law enforcement agencies kept a cautious distance on interstate highways as they chased a white pickup truck driven by a woman with a gun at her head.

Shortly after the truck crossed into Virginia on Interstate 85, both the woman and the man holding the gun were dead. Police said Roberto Campos, 25, of Florida, shot Lourdes Gusman, 26, of 801 Navaho Drive in Raleigh, then himself after Virginia State Police forced the truck to a stop in rural Brunswick County.

The fatal journey was recorded nonstop by Raleigh television stations, two that employed helicopters to follow the chase to the end.

The deaths ended what began in Raleigh as the most recent episode of at least a five-year history of domestic violence, family members told police.

Campos, the father of two of Gusman's children, appeared at Gusman's North Raleigh apartment Monday afternoon and forced her and the two children into Gusman's Toyota Tacoma, her stepfather told Raleigh police.

When police officers spotted the truck on Glenwood Avenue, Gusman used a cellphone to call 911 and told dispatchers that Campos would release the children if officers would back off.

Police complied and the children were let out of the truck on the Inner Beltline near Capital Boulevard.

The truck then sped off, the chase eventually joined by the state Highway Patrol and several police agencies as local TV helicopters followed the chase, several times showing Gusman with a gun pointed at her head. Police said Campos fired shots from the truck several times during the chase -- twice at Raleigh police and again at motorists. The truck traveled west on Interstate 40 into Orange County before heading north on Interstate 85.

Preventing more harm

The shots fired from the truck figured heavily into the decision by Virginia State Police to stop the vehicle.

Col. W. Gerald Massengill said the truck could not be allowed to reach Interstate 95, which merges with I-85 near Richmond, Va. Virginia troopers feared violence in a heavily populated area, Massengill said.

"I regret that we have two individuals dead, but I would regret it more if they had reached I-95 ," he said.

Troopers employed "stop-sticks" to puncture the truck's tires and the truck veered onto the median, Massengill said. As dozens of police vehicles converged on the scene with bright lights, police said they heard three gunshots from inside the truck. Massengill characterized the shooting as a murder-suicide.

There to the end

Raleigh police followed the chase to its end and were joined by Chief Jane Perlov, who reported the deaths about 8:30 p.m.

The children, a boy and a girl fathered by Campos, were taken to the children's emergency room at WakeMed. They appeared unharmed, said Debbie Laughery, WakeMed's director of public relations. About 8 p.m., they were taken to the Raleigh Police Department.

Traffic backup

Dozens of law enforcement units overwhelmed afternoon commuter traffic on I-40. Speeds reached more than 100 mph, but sometimes slowed to about 65 mph.

Law enforcement units closed exits along both interstates in an effort to stop the truck, which at times passed in emergency lanes.

Most Raleigh officers dropped out of the chase before it ended because they were running out of gasoline, but a Raleigh SWAT unit and a police supervisor followed the vehicle into Virginia, said Sgt. Johnny Blackman of the Highway Patrol.

History of violence

Gusman moved to Raleigh about five years ago to get away from Campos, family members told police. Overman said there had been a history of domestic violence between the two, who had emigrated from El Salvador. In 1999, family members told police, Campos came to Raleigh from Florida and assaulted one of Gusman's relatives, said Overman, who would not identify the family member.

"We're looking into whether those incidents were reported to authorities," he said.

North Carolina ranks fourth in the nation in the number of women killed by their intimate partners, which could be a boyfriend, husband, former husband or former boyfriend, said Leslie Starsoneck, executive director of the N.C. Council for Women and Domestic Violence Commission in Raleigh.

Starsoneck said violence often erupts when one partner thinks he or she has lost control over the other's life.

"Usually it's not a mystery. There's always a history," she said. "If people feel they don't have a way out, you see a lot of murder-suicides.

"And we can't forget the impact on the children who are left behind and who have probably lived through horrific scenes already before this one."

Staff writer Thomasi McDonald can be reached at 829-4533 or tmcdonal@newsobserver.com.

Staff writers Ellen Sung J. Andrew Curliss and Cindy George contributed to this report.


213 posted on 09/24/2002 6:03:59 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: SuziQ
Along with that, they could use some training on how NOT to pick JERKS nad PSYCHOS for boyfriends and husbands!

I know, I know, there's no comprehensible answer (especially to a guy, like me), but WHAT THE HECK is UP with that???

214 posted on 09/24/2002 7:36:45 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Chemist_Geek
I will take a shot at giving you an answer, Chemist_Geek. I have my own theory, as a 30 year-old woman who watched so many of the women/girls around me make amazingly stupid mistakes.

To give you some background, I have formed this theory based upon my life experiences and on studying the theories of evolutionary psychology. I was born in Texas and raised in several Texas backwaters, so I know well and identify with blue-collar, “red state” Americans. I also have 3 degrees and currently work in a very liberal college town, so I know well but do not identify with your typical upwardly-mobile female on the right-hand side of the IQ bell curve.

I think that, of all the destruction feminism has wrought, the worst is in the way that it broke the bonds between older women and younger women. Whereas before feminism and the sexual revolution, older women were typically married or widowed, after the sexual revolution these older women were still trying to compete in the sexual marketplace. This broke any kind of mentoring relationship or camaraderie that women had typically formed in times past. Young women no longer had older women to give them logical, cultural criteria for picking their mates, leaving young women to rely on their natural instincts.

Women, like all animals, pick a mating strategy based upon their particular position in life. Back when our culture was civilized, women had social pressure to ignore their hormones and act in their long-term interest. Now that we no longer have any civilizing impetus, women are again using their primal urges to direct their mating. Their interests are usually short-term, at least when it comes to mating.

Upwardly mobile women marry geeks, but screw bad boys as much as possible. They know that geeks are going to make good money, and are less likely to complain they are cuckolded. They want the best of all possible worlds—a good husband/father/provider, and the genetics that come from those sexy cads they cheat with. They usually find out the hard way that you can’t play that game for long.

Downwardly mobile women screw bad boys exclusively because these guys exhibit the most testosterone. If you asked them why, they couldn’t tell you, but they seem to being following what is known as the “sexy son” theory. They mate with the most attractive, most promiscuous guy possible, hoping to have a son just like him to carry on their genes.

Either way, bad boys get all the action, and women, in the end, get screwed. Older women used to guide younger women through these pitfalls, and encourage younger women to marry stable, hard-working dependable men. This isn’t happening anymore, and we see the results.

215 posted on 09/24/2002 8:01:38 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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