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US Plans for Mass Smallpox Inoculations
CNSNEWS.com ^
| 9/23/02
| Susan Jones
Posted on 09/23/2002 3:53:46 AM PDT by kattracks
CNSNews.com) - The federal government has come up with a plan for vaccinating the entire U.S. population within five days of an actual smallpox outbreak, and on Monday, it will share that plan with state officials. The 100-page plan includes instructions on how to conduct mass vaccinations: One unnamed federal official was quoted as saying the guidelines address "anything you can think of in running a vaccine clinic...It literally says, 'Here's how you set one up and here's how you run it.'"
The plan spells out how many clinics and healthcare workers would be needed; where the clinics should be set up; and what kind of security would be needed to control a panicky public.
The federal government is still debating who should be vaccinated before an actual smallpox case is reported. A decision on that is expected next month.
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To: Lion's Cub
I heard a doctor on one of the Sunday talk shows a few weeks ago who said that there is now a bandage that can be put over the vaccinated spot that prevents shedding the virus.
To: Lion's Cub
The strain that is used for vaccinations does not readily spread. If it did we would not need mass innoculations as the exposure to the virus from the shed virii would suffice. During the time when most people were vaccinated routinly at about age 7 there was always a significant unvaccinateed population nearby and there was certainly no huw and cry about the spread of smallpox.
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posted on
09/23/2002 5:27:59 AM PDT
by
harpseal
To: harpseal
The numbers run as follows approx 1 death per million who are vacinated from complications due to the vaccine.
The same society who fear the mass smallpox vacination are perfectly willing to sit out on their patios and porches and allow mosquitos to inject West Nile infected blood into their systems. More people have died this year than would die from vacination. I am old enough to remember being vacinated several times, once when I was a kid, and twice in the military when I was going to a smallpox prone area. Itsa no big deal! Better to be protected from as many of Sadams toys as possible. It will be a little late if we wait for the first case of smallpox to arrive.
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posted on
09/23/2002 5:28:48 AM PDT
by
GreyWolf
To: GreyWolf
I most heartily agree. I would further, state that by limiting smallpox innocualtions to those who do not have impaired immune systems and certain other medical conditions the risks are even lower.
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posted on
09/23/2002 5:35:12 AM PDT
by
harpseal
To: aristeides
there is now a bandage that can be put over the vaccinated spot that prevents shedding the virus.Yeah, if people leave them in place. Then there's the prospect of say 200 million contaminated bandages going into landfills...
I happen to be in favor of allowing the voluntary vaccination, since it seems like the best option and is the one most in tune with the ideals and character of the country. I'm just pointing out how much safer we were from stuff like this when people could burn their trash.
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Preposterous. Five days? I've got an idea. During the next election, the US should set up clinics right near the voting booths. If you choose to get a shot, then you can get one. I can't see how our country would give the whole population a vaccination within 5 days. It would be complete chaos. This way, more people would vote, and the chaos level will be much lower if an outbreak does occur. Does this make sense, or should I get my second cup? :)
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posted on
09/23/2002 5:47:28 AM PDT
by
Snowy
To: kattracks
I do hope this is true. Smallpox is the one bio agent that is truly a threat. It is a wretched disease, spreads rapidly and while preventable, children have not been immunized for it in about 30 years, which means there is a lot of people succeptable to it. This is, other than perhaps ebola, the weapon of choice I would think to cause terror.
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"I understand your point but the idea of tens of millions of people being herded into clinics within five days is beyond imagination. There are more than 280 million people in this country. Does everybody leave work to get a shot? Can you picture traffic jams so large there is absolute gridlock? People might be standing in lines a mile long. Will we close the interstate highways and give long-haul truckers their shots by going truck-to-truck?" Oh, BAHHHHH-LONEY! All you need is a nurse with a syringe and a cop to guard the door. In a situation like this, there will be THOUSANDS of places to get the immunization, and they will be geographically dispersed throughout the country. Some will probably be motor homes going into neighborhoods.
To: harpseal
>> 15% of those who have not been vaccinated will die from a smallpox infection.<<
Actually more like 30%.
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/Agent/Smallpox/Smallpox.asp
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,180313,00.html
Higher mortality rate for old people, children aged 2 and younger, and those with compromised immune systems, e.g., people on cancer chemotherapy, organ transplant recipients, etc.
One researcher says 52% fatalities in unvaccinated.
http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/effectsmallpoxvaclonger.html
There's little doubt that Iraq possesses and will use smallpox as a weapon. Iraqi military are routinely inoculated against smallpox. In the event that smallpox is deployed against US military in Iraq or within the US, refusing to get vaccinated means that you will become a carrier and infect countless others. Not good.
I doubt very much that vaccination will be mandatory unless smallpox is released into the general population. The vaccine itself causes deaths and neurological damage in a tiny percentage of people.
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
If they really intend to vacinate the entire population in five days, logically, this means they have a diffrent method of vacinating then what we have experienced - perhaps airborn dispersal???
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posted on
09/23/2002 6:00:58 AM PDT
by
Abogado
To: CobaltBlue
I understand the higher numbers may be more accurate for an actual epidemic. I was using an overly conservative number to point out the dangers of this disease and the need for vaccinations if otential exposure is probable. In short I am arguing for making the vaccine available for those who wish to be vaccinated. Every person who voluntarily gets the vaccine not only protects themselves (something I would do but would not
force another to do) but also contributes to the herd immunity.
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
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posted on
09/23/2002 6:01:54 AM PDT
by
harpseal
To: 2sheep
I'm in favor of a third option: The right to be left alone. Have it your way, but think about your children.
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posted on
09/23/2002 6:02:01 AM PDT
by
Ditto
To: Miss Marple
PING!
To: Abogado
If they really intend to vacinate the entire population in five days, logically, this means they have a diffrent method of vacinating then what we have experienced - perhaps airborn dispersal??? You aren't trying to work contrails into this thread are you? :)
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posted on
09/23/2002 6:13:55 AM PDT
by
Snowy
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
This plan has the unintended (though certainly predictable)
consequence of clustering huge numbers of people at vaccination
facilities at the onset of an epidemic. That is the EXACT opposite
of what should be done in that circumstance. Normal procedures would
demand that everyone "quarintine in place," rather than congregate.
They should make the vaccine availbale NOW on a voluntary basis. That would start the process and perhaps tip the logistical balance. The plan as written in insane.
To: Ditto; Avoiding_Sulla; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal
>Have it your way, but think about your children.Create-A-Crisis and Clamp Down:
"Today [1991] America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." ...Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evian-Les-Bains, France 1991
Please check out globalism and its intents regarding population control. Include in your search: United Nations, Agenda 21, abortion, eugenics, and assisted suicide. Also look for yet another False Prophet known by his stinking fruit:
The Rev. Thomas Robert Mathus (1766-1834), child of the devil and suck-up to the New World Order:
Globalists are Satanists masquerading as normal people. They want to kill people in large numbers per Agenda 21; see link below*! The "media" is their lying member to deceive the seducible-sheeple into running to embrace their own death.
See Avoiding-Sulla's post here ~~ *27 ~~ THE AXIS OF ENVIRONMENTAL EVIL
"The agenda of these Malthusian misanthropic megalomaniacs could not be more clear." ....AV
Before adopting any ideas such as "It couldn't happen [to me] [here] etc.," ask a Jew. They are the canaries in the mine on subject of "Final Solution." Here are a few links on the subject:
Sustainable development explained: Joan Veon explains evolution of U.N. global control push
'Overpopulation' Turns Out to Be Overhyped
Beyond Birth Control: Dr. Stanley K. Monteith ~The Population Control Agenda
The Georgia Guidestones: New Age Reason, or Age Old Treason?
***22 - Le-Roy's quote on World Health Org and AIDS in Africa***
UN MANUAL PROMOTES ABORTION, STERILIZATION ON REFUGEE POPULATIONS
Tetrahedron: U.N._World_Food_and_Population.html
POPULATION CONTROL, THE FINAL SOLUTION (1 of 3)
POPULATION CONTROL, THE FINAL SOLUTION (2 of 3) ~ See post #8 by Romulus re Julian Simon
POPULATION CONTROL, THE FINAL SOLUTION (3 of 3)
Global Governance: Excessive Population
Peter Singer and Eugenics
The Re-education of America
Population Control and Eugenics: the Dark Underworld of Modernity
Are you being targeted for Euthanasia?
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posted on
09/23/2002 6:18:16 AM PDT
by
2sheep
To: Lion's Cub
Someone on another thread pointed out that the lesion from the vaccination sheds the virus until it heals. Er, isn't the whole point of vaccination to inject the recipient with a weakened or dead version of the virus that is not capable of producing the disease?
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posted on
09/23/2002 6:22:51 AM PDT
by
steve-b
To: Snowy
During the next election, the US should set up clinics right near the voting booths. What would happen to a 'Rat voter who got a dozen vaccinations within a few hours?
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posted on
09/23/2002 6:24:38 AM PDT
by
steve-b
To: steve-b
What would happen to a 'Rat voter who got a dozen vaccinations within a few hours? They would get very sick and possibly die. See, isn't it a good idea? It would discourage voter fraud! :)
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posted on
09/23/2002 6:30:30 AM PDT
by
Snowy
To: aristeides
Will you feel as noble, lying on your death bed, dying from the injection?
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