[madprof98]

Even here in Georgia, I think it is only the Left that is really obsessed with the abortion issue. But I do agree with Wooten that it was ridiculous for Georgia Right-to-Life to draw up so narrow a test of acceptability for candidates. That test just invites the pro-abortion people to harp about rape and incest.

[thinktwice]

Terrorists kill 3,000 in New York while liberal fanatics kill 35,000 American babies a year.

THAT is the truth behind the Democratic party platform.

[jwalburg]

the tiniest exception will start the hordes marching to abortion clinics
There are already hordes marching to abortion clinics -- 4000 daily.

[Jim Robinson]

"The Senate Judiciary Committee, for example, is a national institution on loan to single-issue ideologues. The 10 Democrats who control the committee vote as one in rejecting judicial candidates who are not blindly obedient to the agenda of out-of-the-mainstream special-interest groups."

Vote the RATs out!

[RJCogburn]

That fact is, IMO, that a very small percentage of people base their vote only on the issue of abortion, on either side.

[Cicero]

Well, there is a small difference between people who are "fanatics" about the abortion issue because they know that abortion involves killing tens of millions of human beings, and those who are "fanatics" about abortion because they want to screw around without any consequences. Even if they have to kill people to pleasure themselves.

[Paul Atreides]

But it is interesting how we never hear about the left's litmus test on abortion, and other issues.

[semaj]

"I think it is only the Left that is really obsessed with the abortion issue"

If having more concern for the lives of unborn babies than the right of women to "CHOSE" to kill their unborn babies is obssesive, then color me obsessive. I don't think it's obsessive in the least. I enjoy life. I want others to enjoy life. I want as many others to enjoy life as possible. I don't want to deprive anybody of life if it can be at all avoided. Don't bother with the death penalty argument, murderers need to be killed in order to protect society. Not so with babies, after all what have they done to deserve death? The chance to live is a great opportunity that I wouldn't want anybody to miss out on. Life is GREAT!

[Taiwan Bocks]

what's fanatical about
calling murdering babies
murdering babies?

If an intoxicated driver is at fault in an accident and someone pregnant loses their baby, is it not prosecuted as murder?

It is stated the same way in the Old Testament.
The man to blame for an accident resulting in a miscarriage,
is to be stoned to death.

[WFTR]

First, I think the article is good overall. I agree that the Democratic party is controlled largely by the pro-abortion extremists and that they are willing to hold the entire country hostage in order to avoid saving even a single unborn child. I also agree that the various "pro-life" groups are hurting their own cause by harping on the rape exception. People who understand the need for individuals to be responsible for their own choices are still going to be resistant to the idea of making a rape victim bear even more responsibility for the choices of the rapist. Justice is not served by putting the rape victim or her doctor in jail because she refuses to bear that burden.

On the other hand, I have some problem with the headline as it has been written. While many candidates will never receive the official endorsement of "right-to-life" groups without agreeing to their single exception position, I still think that many pro-life candidates can win nomination and election in the Republican party holding the more reasonable mother's life and rape exception position. Undoubtedly, the single exception camp has great influence in the Republican Party, but it doesn't steer the Republican party to the extent that the pro-abortion people steer the Democrat party.

WFTR
Bill

[be131]

Out of interest, how would a rape/incest exception for abortion work? Would the father have to be convicted of rape? By then, the pregnancy would be over. Merely accused of rape? That is tantamount to legitimizing abortion. Judged on the balance of probabilities to have raped? By whom? Were there any pre-Roe laws of this form? Just curious.

[sauropod]

Let'em harp. A baby is a gift from God no matter the circumstances. Therefore, who are we to say, this one can live but this other one cannot because the circmstances of conception are repellant?

'Pod

[mikesmad]

But I do agree with Wooten that it was ridiculous for Georgia Right-to-Life to draw up so narrow a test of acceptability for candidates. That test just invites the pro-abortion people to harp about rape and incest.

Look, it's like this - you either believe the baby is a unique living being or you don't. If so, then only if the life of the mother is endangered is there justification for killing the baby. Then it truly becomes the mothers choice (of self defense) of which road to travel.

If you "allow" exceptions for rape and incest then the only statement you are making is that the mothers "feelings" are more important than the childs life. The child is innocent. It did not force any sexual act upon the mother. Once you establish the mothers "feelings" are more important than the childs life, then there is no limitation that makes logical sense.

Our right to life is the most fundamental right that we have. If not a right to life, then liberty and the pursuit of happiness are immaterial.

[Desdemona]

ping

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I'm going to read and smoke now, but I would love to see this question argued.

How many abortions have the "all or nothing" wing of the Right to Life movement actually stopped via legislation? My answer - none. So far as I recall, no one has ever been able to offer up a regulatory statute which stayed within the bounds of Roe v. Wade - because the Right to Life movement insists on drawing up and passing the impermissible every time.

Banning late term PBAs was in reach - but blown because of the language insisted on. Second trimester abortions could easily be regulated as well, but as always, there are blown opportunities.

People, there has to be some reality recognized here - this is not an instant process.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Final thought - demonizing those who prefer to see a rape/incest exception is not politically smart.

Baby steps, folks.