[Paul Atreides]

I never thought I would see the day when conservatives would be defending what went on in that video. According to their logic, if I live next door to them, and someone pulls up in front of their house and is trying to entice their children into the car, I am just to mind my own business. I, too, believe in the right to discipline a child, but within reason. That beating on the video was without reason.

[RabidBartender]

Not conservatives....libertarians.

This case just ended in my town: http://www.stjoenews-press.com/main.asp?Search=1&ArticleID=32285&SectionID=81&SubSectionID=272&S=1

"A jury took barely 40 minutes Wednesday to convict Isaiah Washington Sr. of murdering his 2-year-old son by kicking and slamming the toddler’s head onto the floor.

Isaiah Washington Sr., 19, had pleaded innocent to the second-degree charge. He faces 10 to 30 years or life in prison for the death of Isaiah Washington Jr.

In earlier testimony in the trial, William Washington Jr., Isaiah Washington Sr.’s brother, testified he saw his brother kick the toddler so hard the boy rose four feet in the air and landed about six feet away in their mother’s home at 1606 Buchanan Ave. in St. Joseph."



But at least Mr. Washington's liberty wasn't impeded on by the jackboot thugs before he got the chance to finish the job. That would have been a real tragedy, eh?(-saracasm)

[avenir]

I, too, believe in the right to discipline a child, but within reason. That beating on the video was without reason.

About sums it up.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Frightening, isn't it.

[GB]

I absolutely agree with you. As a parent who on more than one occasion has swatted my kids' behinds when they've deserved it, I can tell you that what I saw on that video was absolutely reprehensible and the woman should be placed under the jail, for a long time. There's a difference between disciplinary spanking and abuse. And the fact that people are actually downloading this video and trying to analyze it frame by frame to prove that this is some eeeevilll liberal government plot to take someone's kid away is one example of why we conservatives are looked upon the way we are in some quarters. And it shows the disconnect between the libertarian and conservative wings on the right that IMHO is always going to threaten us ever being able to do anything to change this country from the right. Flame me as a liberal sheeple if you want to, but I never have and never will support the notion that government has no role to play in any of our lives, including the protection of children in instances like this. What I believe is that government should not try to ensure equality of outcomes or fairness (because it usually turns out to be arbitrarily unfair) or try to be the primary entity for meeting its citizens' basic everyday needs 365/24/7 cradle to grave. And I never have and never will support the concepts of libertarianism, because I believe that society, government, whatever does have the right to place limits on personal behavior. The extent of those limits is certainly open to debate but the right to place the limits at all IMHO is not. And I certainly think the government has the right to keep this piece of flotsam and jetsam from mugging a four-year-old.